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Some new understanding needs to be reached with Iran.

Perpetuating violence and Indian proxy war will not help them in Pakistan.

Pakistan needs to avail the opportunity of cheap oil in a more organized fashion, with common understanding reached between both.

Chahbahar needs to be cleared of Indians, then let us talk business without any ill-feelings.
 
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Iran did it for Indian investment and to secure trade relations. Chabahar gets Iran some money. Most of the investment also came from india which means Iran did not have any losses in making the port. India will use it to trade with Afghanistan and also to ship fertiliser to India while Iran will collect taxes and rent. It was purely monetary deal without any military presence from India.
well, India played very smart again and very easily bypass all iran sanctions .......... the question is how. now india do all trade in afghanistan through chahbar and later all indian products comes back to iran through afghanistan .... it is not enough trade but good enough to generate revenue for indian traders.

Some new understanding needs to be reached with Iran.

Perpetuating violence and Indian proxy war will not help them in Pakistan.

Pakistan needs to avail the opportunity of cheap oil in a more organized fashion, with common understanding reached between both.

Chahbahar needs to be cleared of Indians, then let us talk business without any ill-feelings.
pakistan need a balance trade and foreign policy. we love to have love hate relationship to keep happy others. these few countries are pakistan neighbors and that is reality. our emotional desi people need to understand this ..
 
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Standard of living does not mean we surrender our sovereignty to iran

i never said people will surrender their sovereignty because of standard of living. money isn't everything

You do realise Baloch are one of myriad ethnic groups in Balochistan? And then I read that most Baloch in Pakistan live in other provinces? It is just a rag tag gang who are paid mercenaries, it has nothing to do with living standards otherwise the Afghan Baloch area would be revolting first as they are poorest if the three.

it has to be a 2 way street.

people of balochistan stand to gain more living standard. Iran stands to gain strategically. afghanistan was part of iran 500 years ago. iran has shown no interest (rightfully) in absorbing a mess. i am sure some pakistanis would love to be citizens of KSA. but would the saudi royals love it ?
 
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The Iranians are showing there true colors day by day i say at this point we go full in the Saudi US camp
 
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The Iranians are showing there true colors day by day i say at this point we go full in the Saudi US camp

At this point, neither KSA nor Iran are fully our allies. Both have strings which attach them to our Kuffar enemies.

We should use our relationship with China to leverage them to our cause, but first making Pakistan strong and self-sufficient is a must.

This nation, Pakistan, is an amanat (trust) of our ancestors and this state is a sacred ghazi (conqueror) nation like that of old.

Shame on Musharraf, Nawaz and Zardaris who have crippled us. We should show them no mercy.
 
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Iranian posters got hyper when I said that Iran have benefit in open borders, and some genius wannabe Iranian Pakistanis were trying to prove that Iran have already installed fence border on it's side with google earth of some random location.

LOL!!! You have money to fund proxies all over middle east but no money for fence? Fact is that other than some occasional incidents, open borders is largely in favor of Iran, SW areas of Pakistan are full of oil and other products smuggled from Iran and Forex purchased from open market being smuggled to Iran.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...tack-in-iran-army.603964/page-7#post-11242543
 
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Australian Shia cleric of Iranian origin hits out at Pakistan Army, turned out to be Indian - Israeli decoy
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ISLAMABAD - Attempts by a self-described reformist Australian Shia cleric of Iranian origin to preach hate against Islam, Pakistan and Pakistan Army has backfired as people have refused to buy his usual blinded efforts to make Pakistan seem like a regressive country filled with extremists.

Reacting to his racist, anti-Islam and anti-Pakistan comments circulating on social media, people have termed Imam Tawhidi aka ‘Imam of Peace’ a ‘bogus Imam’ who is a ‘useful idiot for Islamophobes and racists alike’.

A friend of Tariq Fateh, a Canadian journalist, secularist and liberal activist of Pakistani origin, Tawhidi is believed to be working on the agenda of pro-Israel, pro-India, anti-Islam and anti-Pakistan lobbies who want to paint a bleak picture of Pakistan and the Muslims as a whole.

Recently many social media users were found sharing a video of him saying that Kashmir is a ‘Hindu land’, with titles and captions claiming that the video is of Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman talking about Kashmir.

However, later it was found that the person claimed to be Saudi crown prince is actually Tawhidi. Little is known about Tawhidi or his followers. His centre named the ‘Islamic Association of South Australia’ was only set up last year and there is little to no information available about the centre and its attendees.

The Australian National Imams Council (ANIC), the official representative body of all Imams across Australia with over 250 members, all Imams, also does not recognise him as an Imam, Shaikh or even a Muslim leader.

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This is quite ingenuity from Iran. It gets to sell oil in black market and get revenue for itself during sanctions.

Villagers were getting cheap oil . 3 or 4 times less price. Yes they evaded tax and this is not good for country in this sense.
But As Now iran is facing complete sanction , Pakistan should avail opportunity and get cheap oil from border with underground agreements.
Pakistan does not get cheap oil. The cost of oil is same from iran but there is no tax. For example 160 litre oil costs $70 which means each litre must cost less than $0.5 even after refining charges are added. But the cost in Pakistan is close to $1 for oil products like petrol, diesel, mainly due to taxation. So, by smuggling oil products, tax is avoided and cost reduces by 50%.

But the amount of money Iran gets will still be the same. Only the local people will get to save taxes. The loser is Pakistan and other people of Pakistan who will lose the tax amount from the balochistan locals as they are not not paying tax but getting free service from government.

The cost of oil is not 70-80% times less but only 50% less and that too due to tax evasion. So, unless Iran agrees to sell oil products at much lower rates than international market, there is nothing to be gained by pakistan.
 
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Persia still considers Balochistan to be its province.... the game is deep...

Indian Monkey working alone???? For so long???

Persia must accept Pak territorial integerity. We are Pak and this is Our Land!

We will fence the border... whethre Persia likes it or not.

This double game needs to end for good!

Two can play this game. How about Pakistan starts to take Iranian Baluchistan. And there are plenty of ways to do it, one simply needs to get dirty and make a few deals with Sheikhs and US, Israel.
 
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Are they mad ??don't they realize its would be beneficial for them too and we expanding so much on it even in such hard economic times for an reason?
How would it benefit them???
Huge revenue loss from low oil smuggling
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Huge anger from their masters india..

Pakistan should drmand that they fence their boarder too
 
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iran is behaving like a puppy of india on balochistan border.
 
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Are they mad ??don't they realize its would be beneficial for them too and we expanding so much on it even in such hard economic times for an reason?
ap bhi badshah hain

if they allow us to fense and seal border then whom they will blame for terror is sistan Baluchistan ?
 
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What is Iranian intention? Why Iran is blocking Pakistani fence? I am suspecting if Pkaistan is trying to encroach on Iran land in the guise of fencing.

Iran even asked Pakistan to partner Chabahar. Don't think that Iran will listen to India. Iran never listens to India. Iran has scuttled Farzad-B gas field from going to India. Simply equating India with Iran is absurd.


lol encroach on Iranian land in the guise of fence?
Are you stupid or just pretending to be an idiot?
How much land can anyone encroach on while fencing? Specially when you have clearly marked and manned borders?
 
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