Iran Could Directly Combat Terrorists inside Pakistan: Senior Commander

[Arsalan 345]

Child, put spaces between periods and capitalize the first letter after a period. I honestly can’t follow the nonsense you write.

go to sleep.when you wake up,open tv and pray to bhagwan! ask modi to attack pakistan.repeat the same steps again in the next morning. indians do it same day.live in your fantasy world.

 

[Awan68]

Again with bravado with nothing to back it up. In Iran's weakest state right after the revolution, Khomeini threatened to overthrow the religious fascist Zia ul-Haq just as he did the Shah for mistreating Shias. The Shias in Islamabad practically shut down the city with protests. Zia ultimately backed down. That was when Pakistan was already a nuclear state and Iran was at its lowest.

The Saudis are playing you like a fiddle and they have been for decades. Who is supporting these terrorist academies (madrassas) in Pakistan? Who is the ideological father of Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and every other Salafi group that's plaguing Pakistan? Since you decided to get chummy with Saudi Arabia, don't expect Iran not to get chummy with India. All your talk about peace with Saudi Arabia is childish. Saudis investing hundreds of billions in Iran, lol, who believes this shit?

And you people cannot stop talking about Iran's relationship with India. Buddy, Saudi Arabia has deeper ties to India than Iran does. Why is Saudi Arabia your "Muslim brother" when it infests you with the ideology that kills your people, supports India, bombs Muslim countries and starves them, and supports Israel and America? I really want to have some answers from Pakistanis on here.

1) Pakistan did not become a nuclear state until 98, Zia died in 88.

2) Zia remained in utmost authority and complete power until his death, he even hanged the most popular political leader in Pakistan aka Bhutto and simply got away with it. His grip on the state was so powerful that the CIA had to blow up his plane along with his senior military leadership to get rid of him.

3) The ideological father of the Taliban is the ISI, we created them, the only involvement the Saudis had was that they provided us with funds when we were fighting the Soviets. The TTP version that plagued Pakistan recently was made up of uzbek and local fighters who were trained, funded and guided by RAW/CIA through sancturies in Afghanistan, the Yanks allowed India countless council centres near our border in Afghanistan for this very purpose.

4) Do u still want me to take you seriously after point number 1, 2 and 3?

As i said u Iranians are emotional people with no valid facts to back up your baseless assertions, forgive me if i dont reply to the rest of your post as again it reflects the general emotional and childish Iranian mindset of gross denial of reality and a lot of emotional misguided ego.

I would appreciate it if we would not continue this as i value my time and certainly am not in the habbit of wasting it on illinformed keyboard warriors who dont even know what they are talking about, thankyou.

 

[yavar]

What about the recent aerial bombarding of Iranian positions in Syria by the Zionists?

yeah really, you compering Pakistan to Israel, I don't know whether to laugh or cry

 

[Saddam Hussein]

yes realy

the final message from Saddam Hussein before his execution, the ousted dictator has urged Iraqis to unite against the US and Iran.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/dec/27/iraq.brianwhitaker

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you can hearing what he said and you can clearly see who really hang him and what went on

and this is Saddam city, the place where he was born, Tikrit.
have good look before you say more

What does Saddam 2003-2006 era incidents have to do with 2015 anti-ISIS operations video/pic content in Tikrit. I don't get the connection

 

[yavar]

What does Saddam 2003-2006 era incidents have to do with 2015 anti-ISIS operations video/pic content in Tikrit. I don't get the connection

it meant as when the time was right we gave Saddam Town good clean up and made sure nothing left on touch.

it meant we wait for right time with good reason

 

[Amigator]

Purane plastic or scrap lohe se jangi jahaz or kashtiyan bna k iran smajhta hai wo humen dra de ga, ye mon or masor ki dal!

Jiska bhidil kedta hai uth k Pakistan ko newspaper main tabah ker deta hai, WTF!

 

[Nilgiri]

yes realy

the final message from Saddam Hussein before his execution, the ousted dictator has urged Iraqis to unite against the US and Iran.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/dec/27/iraq.brianwhitaker

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you can hearing what he said and you can clearly see who really hang him and what went on

and this is Saddam city, the place where he was born, Tikrit.
have good look before you say more

Glad that bastard got his comeuppance for what he did to innocent people in 1980s war with Iran. May his soul rot in hellish eternity.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

it meant as when the time was right we gave Saddam Town good clean up and made sure nothing left on touch.

it meant we wait for right time with good reason

'We'?

It was the Iraqi forces cleaning the town from IS. I don't get you Iranians claiming everything is your doing. It was the US that facilitated the hanging of Saddam, Iran was unable to do anything against him.

Glad that bastard got his comeuppance for what he did to innocent people in 1980s war with Iran. May his soul rot in hellish eternity.

Which innocent people, in war there are combatants and civilians. The war took place on the borders where nearly solely combatants were present. Unless you are talking about non-combatants he killed, in that case they were mostly Iraqis he killed in the south and north.

The US shouldn't have left it at just removing Saddam, they should've removed Khamenei as well.

 

[Nilgiri]

Unless you are talking about non-combatants he killed, in that case they were mostly Iraqis he killed in the south and north.

He launched lot of attacks against Iranian cities when things did not go his way conventionally on the ground (and the deadlock/stalemate started):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Cities

This was on top of the stuff you are referencing with the Kurds + Shiites in border zones (who yes were supported by the Iranians - but again civilian base of those needed appropriate proportionality, not excess in retaliation from Iraqi forces).

The US shouldn't have left it at just removing Saddam, they should've removed Khamenei as well.

US shouldn't have removed anybody. They made the issue about WMD (which was proven fake and no time given to proper ground inspection process, not to mention proportionality again). Iran did not have the same accusation leveled at them at that point.

If the US made it about removing authoritarian dictators (to go after Iran too etc)....then they would have more credibility....but they would have to go after far far bigger ones in the world as well to follow that standard.

In the end it was US ego and hubris (surmised as neo-con + neo-lib given the traditional earlier anti-intervention stances held)...and thinking/assuming its easy win + more oil-control + "hearts and minds" + big launchpad to use in the region...and whatever else to argue past the crappy WMD excuse.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

He launched lot of attacks against Iranian cities when things did not go his way conventionally on the ground (and the deadlock/stalemate started):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Cities

This was on top of the stuff you are referencing with the Kurds + Shiites in border zones (who yes were supported by the Iranians - but again civilian base of those needed appropriate proportionality, not excess in retaliation from Iraqi forces).

As you can see from the map and read in your link, it was both ways. Iran likewise ordered similar attacks against civilian cities in Iraq, where's your blame against Khomeini and his son.

That shit could have ended in 1982 instead if not for that faggot khomeini who some people here worship whilst living in Europe.

 

[Nilgiri]

As you can see from the map and read in your link, it was both ways. Iran likewise ordered similar attacks against civilian cities in Iraq, where's your blame against Khomeini and his son.

That shit could have ended in 1982 instead if not for that faggot khomeini who some people here worship whilst living in Europe.

I dont like/support any (politician/leader) side here....but I place greater blame on Saddam for instigating this and also getting bankrolled by Saudis to perpetuate it past its initial impetus (and clear non-return on investment)....and then starting the civilian targeting on top of it (which Iran then retaliated but much more limited overall given their capability at that time).

And I definitely would not call for either to be removed by outside power like US (this comes from a person who supported it pretty strongly when he was a younger more oblivious lad). Military intervention for statecraft brings terrible long term costs for all involved (esp longer you do the "hearts and minds" kind of thing just to feed military industrial complex and own ego as world police). If you have clear intel on imminent threat...that is another thing....but deploying your deep state to manufacture it for sake of invasion of another sovereign entity is treasonous imo (because you essentially have lied to your own people for the intent and justification to send their best sons to die for their country)

You need to have clear defined and standardised objectives (applicable worldwide with as low bias and qualitative intel as possible) and good exit plan (if you commit to ground) no matter how powerful/wise you may think you are.....or not do it at all (which is best option for me).

US did neither....and worse, was already engaged in another (long logistics) theatre at same time. It is hubris in the end....and hubris creates only unneeded suffering. The results speak for themselves.

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[Hellfire]

@Nilgiri

Specific to the topic of the thread, what people may have missed out is the sudden 'discovery' by Taliban that their representatives can not fly to Islamabad as they remain on no fly list of US. This was in the immediate aftermath of the strike in Iran and accusation by the Iranians of Pakistan's ISI supporting anti-Iran elements.

Will go out on a limb here. This should clearly be read in conjunction with the frequent media reports of the Taliban receiving support from Iran and Russia. That the Taliban have avoided coming to Pakistan, should be a clear indication of who is calling the shots with them today.

I am simply amazed at the Pakistanis here, who fail to realize the impact of the recent events. Effectively, they have closed off their lines of communications - having a hostile Iran (not helped by MBS' statements yesterday), Afghanistan and India, all riled up simultaneously and Taliban also staying away from Pakistan.

I am yet to find an precedent wherein the members cheer the fervent pace at which their country is encircling itself with hostile neighbours with bombastic statements as evident here.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

I dont like/support any (politician/leader) side here....but I place greater blame on Saddam for instigating this and also getting bankrolled by Saudis to perpetuate it past its initial impetus (and clear non-return on investment)....and then starting the civilian targeting on top of it (which Iran then retaliated but much more limited overall given their capability at that time).

You can blame anyone you want makes no difference, that said you should stick to India. Next time someone from Japan will come and lecture me about Khamenei and Saddam.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Iran Could Directly Combat Terrorists inside Pakistan: Senior Commander


TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces Major General Mohammad Hossein Baqeri said Iran could directly step in to crush Pakistani-based terrorist groups under the UN Charter.

February, 18, 2019

Speaking to reporters in the city of Qom on Monday, the top Iranian general said Tehran has called on Pakistani military and political officials to take serious action in the fight against terrorist groups near the common border with Iranو in the wake of a recent terrorist attack that killed 27 IRGC personnel in southeast Iran.

The Pakistani authorities have been urged to take responsibility for the fight against terrorist groups “or allow our forces to enter (Pakistan) and fight off these terrorist groups,” he added.

A bus carrying IRGC personnel was traveling between the cities of Zahedan and Khash, in Sistan and Balouchestan on February 13, when it was targeted in a suicide car bomb attack. Twenty-seven IRGC members were killed and 13 others injured in the attack, claimed by the so-called Jaish ul-Adl terrorist group based in Pakistan.

Elsewhere in his remarks, Major General Baqeri reiterated the need for Islamabad to ensure stability and security near the border with Iran, adding, “If the centers used for training, accommodating, preparing and lodging terrorist groups in Pakistan would intend to continue their activities for any reason, it would be the Islamic Republic’s natural and international right under the United Nations Charter to take direct action against those centers and take revenge if necessary.”

The top commander also noted that Iran has provided intelligence for Pakistan, whose army has reportedly launched an operation since Sunday in the Pakistani Balochistan region against the terrorist groups.

He stressed that Iran will keep negotiations with Pakistan and pressuring it to make sure that the terrorist groups will be rooted out from the southeastern province of Sistan and Balouchestan.

https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/...t-terrorists-inside-pakistan-senior-commander

Lol, what is this crap? Pakistan is not Iraq or Syria.
Let see Iran try this.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

@Nilgiri

Specific to the topic of the thread, what people may have missed out is the sudden 'discovery' by Taliban that their representatives can not fly to Islamabad as they remain on no fly list of US. This was in the immediate aftermath of the strike in Iran and accusation by the Iranians of Pakistan's ISI supporting anti-Iran elements.

Will go out on a limb here. This should clearly be read in conjunction with the frequent media reports of the Taliban receiving support from Iran and Russia. That the Taliban have avoided coming to Pakistan, should be a clear indication of who is calling the shots with them today.

I am simply amazed at the Pakistanis here, who fail to realize the impact of the recent events. Effectively, they have closed off their lines of communications - having a hostile Iran (not helped by MBS' statements yesterday), Afghanistan and India, all riled up simultaneously and Taliban also staying away from Pakistan.

I am yet to find an precedent wherein the members cheer the fervent pace at which their country is encircling itself with hostile neighbours with bombastic statements as evident here.

The Iranians always get up in arms when there’s an attack there, and then calm down soon after. At the end of the day, the Iranians know that they’ll be far worse off if Pakistan actually chose to actively support the insurgency in Iran, backed by Saudi billions and other ‘nations with common interests in a weakened Iran’.

With respect to the cancellation of the Taliban travel to Pakistan, please keep in mind that neither Pakistan nor the US officially confirmed the meetings in Pakistan. There are a variety of theories on why: Afghan Government’s official protest to the UN in conjunction with the Pakistani FATF review being one of them.