Iran continues 'illegal coercion' and detention of ship, India fumes

[timetravel]

our deadline is when we finish it 100% and not 30%...that's chinese way of management

thats CCP way of hiding incompetency. Let me congratulate you on this great feat. 1 billion ignorant people in one country. that's big achievement.

 

[Serpentine]

Coincidence? Iran Seizes Indian Ship After India Cuts Oil Imports

Here’s a coincidence that suggests Iran’s anger and frustration over U.S. and EU sanctions on its oil exports as observed or not by India.

With Iran falling from second to sixth or seventh among India’s sources of oil, Iranian Republican Guards this week detained an Indian oil tanker carrying 140,000 tons of crude from Iraq, which now vies with Saudi Arabia as the greatest source of Indian oil.


Coincidence? Iran Seizes Indian Ship After India Cuts Oil Imports - Forbes

Western news sources skiing on every $hit that happens in Iran, around Iran or about Iran. No surprise.
The first reason that this article is a trash is that Iran doesn't have a 'Republican Guard' to begin with.

If you guys hate India so much, that's not a problem, but using this VERY REGULAR incident to a political matter for you own agenda and using Iran as means for it is unacceptable.

Those idiots don't ask themselves that if Iran is doing this for political reasons and as a response to Indian oil cults, then how on earth will such an stupid move help Iran in anyway?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

thats CCP way of hiding incompetency. Let me congratulate you on this great feat. 1 billion ignorant people in one country. that's big achievement.

you know that China will never declare to the world the deadline of any military projects that our enemies are delighted to know...and you keep asking this question All warfare is base on deception...even if we delayed our military project for decade ,we will still make our enemy believe that they're ready and operational...and that's our great feat and achievement.

 

[timetravel]

you know that China will never declare to the world the deadline of any military projects that our enemies are delighted to know...and you keep asking this question All warfare is base on deception...even if we delayed our military project for decade ,we will still make our enemy believe that they're ready and operational...and that's our great feat and achievement.

Who is your real enemy? US, Russia, Japan and India. US and Russia don't care what China has as they can beat China any day.

In case of war with Japan and India, the truth will be out in the battle. So hiding doesn't help much.

But at least you admitted that China hides its delays.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Western news sources skiing on every $hit that happens in Iran, around Iran or about Iran. No surprise.
The first reason that this article is a trash is that Iran doesn't have a 'Republican Guard' to begin with.

If you guys hate India so much, that's not a problem, but using this VERY REGULAR incident to a political matter for you own agenda and using Iran as means for it is unacceptable.

Those idiots don't ask themselves that if Iran is doing this for political reasons and as a response to Indian oil cults, then how on earth will such an stupid move help Iran in anyway?

Look dude, we just post and comments on article written by Indian, it's up for you guys to judge, noone ask Iranian to take Chinese opinions as for granted..if you don't like just ignore it...at least we didnt bad mouth Iran and Iranian people.

 

[cleverrider]

No disrespect to India, but when Iran puts the American and Israeli bullies on their place on a daily basis then Indians are not relevant. When you come near Iran or enter Iranian territories there are clear laws. Remember, one of the very few countries in the ME that is stable and peaceful is Iran and thanks to the laws it is a strong united country. India should not protest further and accept that they violated Iranian law.

WARS are fought for something, right now Iran is just not worth it (IF NATO wants it can destroy IRAN to Bits). You're exactly putting no one in their "place".

Daily basis

Not that I support an attack on Iran just Stating the obvious, let common sense prevail.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Who is your real enemy? US, Russia, Japan and India. US and Russia don't care what China has as they can beat China any day.

In case of war with Japan and India, the truth will be out in the battle. So hiding doesn't help much.

But at least you admitted that China hides its delays.

Also hiding project is one thing. Hiding dates is another. Everyone know China do not have a A/C. So there is nothing hidden, but we still do not have dates for it?

India is our enemy , you still don't know that all warfaire is about deception do you? hiding the intention or capability is crucial for any incoming war...that's how the spies come into the picture.

 

[Serpentine]

Look dude, we just post and comments on article written by Indian, it's up for you guys to judge by yourself...noone ask Iranian to take Chinese opinions for granted..if you don't like just ignore it...at least we didnt bad mouth Iran and Iranian people.

My comment was not directed at you, or Chinese members and I'm not taking anyone's opinion for granted. I'm neither defending India nor bashing any other country.

I'm just saying some of the comments are illogical and out of hate only. This is a regular incident, but some people are making it huge for no reason.
Let's assume a country seizes a Chinese ship for violating rules, then no one should say: Look! Powerful China is humiliated because her ship is seized for violating the law!
If you think this is logical, then I think we better not to argue with each other.

 

[timetravel]

India is our enemy , you still don't know that all warfaire is about deception do you? hiding the intention or capability is crucial for any incoming war...that's how the spies come into the picture.

hiding project is one thing. Hiding dates is another. Everyone know China do not have a A/C. So there is nothing hidden, but we still do not have dates for it?

and really I am not interested in China bashing. But the Chinese attitude on Indian A/C thread is very poor. Instead of congratulating India, they were full of arrogance and jeaoulsy. Even Pakistani, Iranian, US, Bangladeshi, Australian, New Zealand and other country posters congratulated India. Everyone except the Chinese congratulated India.

anyhow giving dates and regular progress updates is more tough then hiding the details.

 

[DARIUS]

I am just waiting for the final outcome of this entire fiasco and given the kind of warm historical,cultural and diplomatic ties that our two countries share I am pretty optimistic that it would end on a very sweet note.But then again how are supposed to put off the flames of jealousy and anger that has been engulfing the A**es of our neighbors (Especially the Western one)over the past 65 years. . . .Let them be happy with their own delusional mind sets!! BTW here's a small gift from our Iranian brothers to our Pakistani neighbor's !!
BBC News - Iran border guards 'kill six Pakistanis'
I mean how do u guys find so much confidence so as to support any Islamic country whatsoever,irrespective of the kind of ties that the both of u share simply because some minor friction is going on between India and that other nation???

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

My comment was not directed at you, or Chinese members and I'm not taking anyone's opinion for granted. I'm neither defending India nor bashing any other country.

I'm just saying some of the comments are illogical and out of hate only. This is a regular incident, but some people are making it huge for no reason.
Let's assume a country seizes a Chinese ship for violating rules, then no one should say: Look! Powerful China is humiliated because her ship is seized for violating the law!
If you think this is logical, then I think we better not to argue with each other.

When come that China to violating rules, we chinese will know how to deal with it...and you can expect Indians will act like flies buzzing around such as China-Japanese or China-Vietnam issues

 

[Serpentine]

When come that China to violating rules, we chinese will know how to deal with it...and you can expect Indians will act like flies buzzing around such as China-Japanese or China-Vietnam issues

That's why I'm saying NO ONE should do something like this, including Indians. I would say the same thing if a Chinese ship was seized and some Indian members were doing something like what going on in here.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

hiding project is one thing. Hiding dates is another. Everyone know China do not have a A/C. So there is nothing hidden, but we still do not have dates for it?

and really I am not interested in China bashing. But the Chinese attitude on Indian A/C thread is very poor. Instead of congratulating India, they were full of arrogance and jeaoulsy. Even Pakistani, Iranian, US, Bangladeshi, Australian, New Zealand and other country posters congratulated India. Everyone except the Chinese congratulated India.

anyhow giving dates and regular progress updates is more tough then hiding the details.

Any info relate to military either capability or date of operational or completion are important...maybe it's irrelevant to India.

As for Carrier bashing, you should remember how you guys made fun of our first floating casino two years ago and if you have short memory, you can dig out some threads posted last year or years ago. and you should see how your media said about China during the ceremony of this 30% carrier, "India need a deterent against China, and this 40,000 ship will be the deterence", instead of saying someting rational, the first thing in Indian's mind is deterence against China...and you expect us to conglatulate India


India Launches First Indigenous Aircraft Carrier, INS Vikrant - YouTube

 

[timetravel]

Any info relate to military either capability or date of operational or completion are important...maybe it's irrelevant to India.

As for Carrier bashing, you should remember how you guys made fun of our first floating casino two years ago and if you have short memory, you can dig out some threads posted last year or years ago. and you should see how your media said about China during the ceremony of this 30% carrier, "India need a deterent against China, and this 40,000 ship will be the deterence", instead of saying someting rational, the first thing in Indian's mind is deterence against China...and you expect us to conglatulate India


India Launches First Indigenous Aircraft Carrier, INS Vikrant - YouTube

details on completion and current progress are readily given by India on projects which are not secret. This is where China is not so open.

China has been aggressive on India's border. Remember the last incursion incident? Also there are events like not giving passport to J&K people. Also the current incursion in AP? So there are such events on regular basis which portray China as aggressive. So that explains media role and behavior partly.

If USA is being aggressive with China on regular periods, I am sure there would be lot of US bashing in China media.

Indians may have bashed the Chinese A/C carrier on that thread. But then it keeps happening. Chinese must have bashed Indians am sure on some other topic.

But still many times Indians congratulate China if they do something new. and am sure Indians would congratulate China if and when China launches its first A/C.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

China has been aggressive on India's border. Remember the incursion incident? Also there are events like not giving passport to J&K people. So there are such events on regular basis which portray China as aggressive. So that explains media role and behavior partly.

If USA is being aggressive with China on regular periods, I am sure there would be lot of US bashing in China media.

Indians may have bashed the Chinese A/C carrier on that thread. But then it keeps happening. Chinese must have bashed Indians am sure on some other topic.

But still many times Indians congratulate China if they do something new.

if you want to dig to the root cause, we can start with 1959, who has harbored Tibetan slave owners and Dalai Lama in order to p1ss China.