Iran Builds 3rd Underground Missile Factory

[Blue In Green]

To you everyone who doesn't buy your BS is an idiot. In fact your position makes you a simpleton.

Would you give it a rest already big guy.

Ok it's fake bs, cool story. Go bother another thread with your banter, nobody here cares dude.

I don't get your thinking though. Why is it hard to believe that Iran has many factories for the building of missiles?

Iran has the tech, has the know how so it stand logically that Iran would protect the very thing producing it's detterent of ballistic missiles. Mountain bases and underground facilities aren't something that's impossible to make.

Look I get it, sure Iran has shoddy unveilings of certain military weapons (even Iranians themselves are largEly skeptical of them) but their missiles are world class and not a joke. Their missiles are what keep them sage whether we like it or not and they're very effective given the years and years they've had to test design and redesign a certain missile. It's all a possibility for Iran.

 

[Iranm]

Would you give it a rest already big guy.

Ok it's fake bs, cool story. Go bother another thread with your banter, nobody here cares dude.

I don't get your thinking though. Why is it hard to believe that Iran has many factories for the building of missiles?

Iran has the tech, has the know how so it stand logically that Iran would protect the very thing producing it's detterent of ballistic missiles. Mountain bases and underground facilities aren't something that's impossible to make.

Look I get it, sure Iran has shoddy unveilings of certain military weapons (even Iranians themselves are largEly skeptical of them) but their missiles are world class and not a joke. Their missiles are what keep them sage whether we like it or not and they're very effective given the years and years they've had to test design and redesign a certain missile. It's all a possibility for Iran.

Also I have heard Iran has some technology and weapons that has not publicly unveiled them yet but they are being mass produced.

 

[Raghfarm007]

To you everyone who doesn't buy your BS is an idiot. In fact your position makes you a simpleton.

Forums like this are a retard magnets....

Tards come here and send hours talking crap, based on their ignorances and feel fulfilled...

No point arguing too much in places like this.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

it's called a silo not a factory , a factory is where they assemble missile parts , like the ones iran receives from north korea

No they mean Factory where they build missiles. Do you really think that Iran has only 3 Missile silos and that it is such a big achievement for them that they announce it publicly?

 

[raptor22]

Looks like the one's Fat Kim has in N Korea.

They also use Images to depict such achievements

Cuba isn't lagging behind either.

irrelevant ...

 

[Penguin]

The difference is that these are offensive missiles meant to strike targets in enemy territory.

Iran's defensive missiles, air defence missiles, are mounted on mobile launchers and TELs.

A missile is a missile. Some pic showed silo's but other showed an underground facility where you can drive you mobile TEL mounted missile to a launch position underneath a firing 'hole'. So, the socalled different is non-existing. We were not talking about air defences but about missile forces. Changing the subject doesn't help.

defensive lines are meant to stand against ground invasion, while these underground facilities are meant to stand against air raids.
but maybe your are suggesting that Americans should store their nuclear arms on the plain earth!
don't play dump here.

And as we all know, air attack usually paves the way for ground invasion. Therefor, these structures are part of Iran's defensive lines.

I'm not suggesting anything about the Americans and if anyone is playing dumb here, it is you yourself. You only proven you can't manage a single civil post.

 

[AmirPatriot]

A missile is a missile. Some pic showed silo's but other showed an underground facility where you can drive you mobile TEL mounted missile to a launch position underneath a firing 'hole'. So, the socalled different is non-existing. We were not talking about air defences but about missile forces. Changing the subject doesn't help.

Doesn't matter if they are missiles, they do completely different jobs. It's like you're comparing a shield with a sword. There is in fact a huge difference.

Again, these ballistic missile shelters are fortified offensive structures. Not defensive. If these were fortified SAMs, now that would be a problem, because SAMs are defensive.

By the way, these facilities work both as launch facilities and storage. Meaning they can also allow the mobile TELs to leave and drive around the country for mobility, then return for missiles to be loaded back onto them.

 

[PeeD]

Hardened Israeli airbases on which their conventional airpower is based are hence also "proven to be useless" defensive structures...

 

[Penguin]

Doesn't matter if they are missiles, they do completely different jobs. It's like you're comparing a shield with a sword. There is in fact a huge difference.

Again, these ballistic missile shelters are fortified offensive structures. Not defensive. If these were fortified SAMs, now that would be a problem, because SAMs are defensive.

By the way, these facilities work both as launch facilities and storage. Meaning they can also allow the mobile TELs to leave and drive around the country for mobility, then return for missiles to be loaded back onto them.

I beg to differ they are offensive. The whole idea of e.g. second strike capability is based on surviving the first strike. I.e. defensive. Hardening is one way of protecting your strike capability. Mobility is another.

A fixed silo can be located and targeted. A whole series of 'firing holes' connected to a tunnel system through which TELs can drive around undetected is much harder to shut down.

 

[Blue In Green]

all countries whether Iran, US or anyone else fortify their military infrastructures, you didn't criticize Iran, you criticized the whole world, you criticized the most simple fact that even a 3 years old kid understands.
so again don't play dumb here.

I think Penguin just wanted to make a statement really. I get what he meant that under enough pressure a large fortification that is well defended can be destroyed but these missile factories and silos and TELS are part of a system really. I doubt Iran is just going to rely on missiles in the mountains for offense and defense.

 

[mohsen]

Looks like the one's Fat Kim has in N Korea.

They also use Images to depict such achievements

Cuba isn't lagging behind either.

during Iran-Iraq war, Saddam fired 176 ballistic missiles (scud and frog7) toward the city of Dezful , yet people didn't abandon their town. people were calling it the city of missiles, that's how it became the symbol of this town.

 

[mohsen]

I get what he meant that under enough pressure a large fortification that is well defended can be destroyed.

his comment and examples are essentially irrelevant.

his examples are bunch of failed forefront defensive lines.
on forefront your enemy is free to increase his pressure as much as he likes, but in the back things are different, you shouldn't allow the pressure on key spots to increase from a certain level. if that happens it means you have lost the battle already.

 

[Blue In Green]

his comment and examples are essentially irrelevant.

his examples are bunch of failed forefront defensive lines.
on forefront your enemy is free to increase his pressure as much as he likes, but in the back things are different, you shouldn't allow the pressure on key spots to increase from a certain level. if that happens it means you have lost the battle already.

That's a fair assessment. These definitely aren't frontline fortifications. I guess he just wanted to make an (somewhat) irrelevant point lol.

 

[Blue In Green]

Just a few... But I could go on and on.

On 6 August 1991, Bakhtiar was murdered along with his secretary, Soroush Katibeh, by three assassins in his home in the Parisian suburb of Suresnes. Both men were killed with kitchen knives. Their bodies were not found until at least 36 hours after death, despite the facts that Bakhtiar had heavy police protection and his killers had left identity documents with a guard at his house. Two of the assassins escaped to Iran. A third, Ali Vakili Rad, was apprehended in Switzerland, along with an alleged accomplice, Zeynalabedine Sarhadi, a great-nephew of the president of Iran at the time, Hashemi Rafsanjani. Both were extradited to France for trial. Vakili Rad was sentenced to life in prison in December 1994, but Sarhadi was acquitted. Rad was paroled from jail in France on 19 May 2010, after serving 18 years of his sentence. He was received as a hero by Iranian officials.

Forouhar and his wife, Parvaneh Eskandari Forouhar, were overt opponents of Velayet-e-faqih (Shia theocracy) and under continuous surveillance. They were assassinated in their home in 1998. The murders, which are believed to have been politically motivated, remain unsolved, although the general belief is that the Iranian Ministry of Intelligence was involved and had ordered the killings.

On August 8, 1992 Farrokhzad's body was found in the kitchen of his apartment in Bonn, Germany after neighbours reported barking by his two dogs. Farrokhzad had been killed violently, having been stabbed repeatedly in the face and upper torso.

These seems like assassinations rather than acts of terror (not every death is terror). Were large parts of foreign civilian populations attacked by Iranians I guess is what he meant.

 

[Sina-1]

Remove chip from shoulder. I said fortification doesn't work. I stand by that. Go F yourself

Fortication is a form of protection. It's like saying that tank armor is not neseccary since new generation atgms can penetrate the older generation tank armor. Obviously defensive and offensive technologies are getting evolved simultaneously and when a new generation of one comes out then the counter of the other is developed and the iterations continues.
Obviously the same thing goes with underground bunkers and bunker busters. Both of them have immense research behind them. Modern bunkers e.g. have various levels of different materials incorporated into them in order to defeat the bombs. Having no protection on the hand would make the counter strategies of your opponent much easier and cheaper since there is one less obstacle for them to defeat. Common sense really.