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Iran announces a new tank called Karrar

I have this evening some thoughts more to deliver. May be you will think about.

My prediction is that turkish policy will result in self destruction as described before but there will be consequences for all muslim living in the west and actually in europe. does nt matter you are iranians turkish or pakistani shia, sunni, alawi and so on

because of the mess created in syria and irak which was a nato project by the ways to harm iran and stop the weapons chanel to hezbollah and hamas. Iran weapons in hamas hands protected their wifes to be raped and their families to be killed. Iran the shia supported hamas the sunni??????? Yeah that s true because in the kuran one of the biggest sins is to bring separation among the islam ummah. So Iran is the beared devils mullahs which the west and nato calls them and the stupid turks blinded and manipuated by the zio believes it. by the way for god sake we have a lot of moslem turks who see iran and the shia as their brothers in arm like me. Azebaidschan is shia and their are our turkish brothers and many shia live in turkey who fought and died for turkey .
By the way turkish economy, media, military instutions and even large parts of politics is controlled by zio. A lot of jewish turkish people live in turkey and control large parts of it. they manipulated turkey for long. Erbakan a leading moslem politican have been overtrwon by the military because we was iran friendly wanted unification of islam world.
Turkey now expelled top hamas oficial to get friend again with israel that their suberp high intelligent strategy.
it a fars or bad joke. The once islamist who said israel is for all the moslem blood responsible wants strategic partnership with israel.
And a lot of agents on the web are trying to make a shia sunni fight. mostly zio agents with excellent english skills
Coming back to why you guys will be personally affected by the turkish politics.

All what happens in the mideast created an image of devil of islam. Most people in the west think islam is dangerous and barbarian. beginning from russia going to east europe and coming to west europe is a huge wave of radical nationalism and anti islam tendancy. But the west created these monsters not islam!
turkey supported all this wrong policy of nato which resulted in many dead moslems and huge refugee crises which will lead in europe to more radicalization. I travel a lot because of business. What I can say is Germany is the last castle to fall before europe is in the hands of anti islam leaders. All east europe already switched to the radical anti islam side.

Why germany takes all these refugees what will happen in some years.

With rest of europe already anti islam culture; germany will once follow than we have 500 Mill People in europe with higher technology and military to wipe out islam world.

Germany already started to switch from liberal democartic to radicalisation. See how Afd party increase votes. What happened in Köln and many other places in Germany will increase anti islam ressitemnts.

Once some radical moslems will bomb germany it will accelerate this process.

Moslems in west europe already struggle to get jobs and living will become harder and harder

21 century can become islam destruction and genocide.

isreal could never fight an unified islam but they play good balls and once they have radicalised europe and make christian enemy of islam than islam face strong and huge enemely unlike the 7 million israelis.

They can defeat islam with europe.

All moslem should be aware that islam is historically at it s weakest point and not strongest and the enemy waits for the kill.

Moslems face genocide in 21 century all this what happens is prelude.

Hopefully the zio will not manage their goals

hopefully islam can awaken and unify before to late

And to these kids who pretend to be moslem and turk Please behave like that

@Serpentine

Obvious falseflagger.

i never participated in those conversations among iranian and turlish memebrs. but lets be fair and see other side of the coin.
have you forgotten the manner and words of majority turkish members about Iranian products during those years on this forum? most of what you have complained are reactions towards turkish members actions.
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Thats true aswell. I suppose boths sides have their flaws and hypocritical ideas and views.
 
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Obvious falseflagger.
Can you explain what are the reasons behind you coming to the point to call him/her an Obvious False flagger?

It was sarcasm.
Yes it was so was mine!

Thats true aswell. I suppose boths sides have their flaws and hypocritical ideas and views.
The fact that it is always Turks who come to Iranian Thread seeking a part to start the childish game and the fact that Iranian always had only Re-actions in regard to Turk's Actions shows that your statement is wrong...

It is like when:

- Wahhabi/Takfiris comes asking to behead all Shias as they are Kafirs!!
Then
- Shia Musims start to defend themselves and their families by fighting the aggressors
Then (Shia never asked others to behead anyone, be it a Takfiri or Non-Muslim or even Atheists... They are so moderate that always separate Takfiris from the mainstream Sunni population and only respond to Takfiris by fighting them back)
Then
- A Pakistani brother comes putting both these parties at one place, calling both as "Bad Guys" who must be stopped!!


There is rule all around the world that only the aggressor is guilty and the defender is innocent even when the defender killed the aggressor in an act of self defense... No body can call both aggressor and the self-defender as "Bad Guys"...

Your statement is in the same league as the above mentioned example
 
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So Zulfiqar is cancelled ?

2-3 years ago , a person called Najaf was saying that we are working on Zulfiqar 4 which have Active Defense , new fire control , new sub Systems ....

so you can consider Karrar as Zulfiqar 4 ....

here I find another image .... they were developing an exclusive armor for new tanks ...

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2-3 years ago , a person called Najaf was saying that we are working on Zulfiqar 4 which have Active Defense , new fire control , new sub Systems ....

so you can consider Karrar as Zulfiqar 4 ....

here I find another image .... they were developing an exclusive armor for new tanks ...

d9rj_dly1apr.jpg

Yeah ... :)

Somebody got it right at last !

But it's gonna be a heavy upgrade !
 
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Iran's defense minister in his interview with Iranian media said or in a way implied the following...

1. Qaher-313 HAS BEEN CANCELED it's done and it will never happen!!!!!

2. Iran is not producing Saegheh fighters anymore & from his words it seems the facilities, tools and equipment that were being used to build the Saegheh fighters are now being used to produce the far less advanced Kowsar trainers which seems to be a light jet powered trainer far less advanced than the even the Seamorgh (F-5B)

3. Iran won't be purchasing the T-90 and instead will be producing a new tank called Karrar this leads me to conclude that the Zolfaghar-3 platform fell short of expectations because countries don't usually change platforms that quickly unless there is a reason to do so because you can always upgrade a good platform.
T-90 is basically a highly upgraded T-72 so I am willing to bet Iran's Karrar will more likely than not be a domestically produced upgraded T-72 that's already been produced under license in Iran.

4. Iran is in talks for the procurement of the Su-30... If I had to guess I would say Iran would likely get a batch of about 80 delivered in the next 10 years or so... probably at a rate of 12-24 aircraft's a year and deliver probably won't start for another 5 years or so.... meaning Iran currently as no short term plans to produce a reliable fighter and Iran's interest in domestic production of the aircraft means they have no real long term plan to produce a viable domestically designed fighter.

5. Iran's 1000 tone Beesat submarine is far from reality and the 500 tone fatteh sub was a failure and failed simple structural tests and Iran had to go back to the drawing board and rebuild the sub using more durable materials
 
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No, telling the truth.

Few countries have the industrial capability and resources to design a new MBT and manufacture all of its parts indigenously. I have mentioned these countries.

Other nations simply customize existing designs and import parts for the said purpose.
That's not right.

Oh my . what did i miss here ? another Turkish jealousy shitfest ? why can't you people act like human beings once in your life ? do you see Iranians posting in your section ? No . the reason : you simply don't matter .

give it a rest and enjoy your life people .

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Karrar is not a perm. name BTW . it can change in future .
Turks and Sunnis in all are the ( Gods chosen people!! ) that's why they have the right to do every thing but no one have the right to do them a thing!!!.

Stupid mentality alas they destroy Syria and Iraq they teas the Greece they harass the Russians they are simply annoying the world.

I swear I always liked Turkey and Turkish people but I don't know why every one or nation I like suddenly that one disappointing me!!!! now I start rethinking again and again stopped like no nothing.

see what houthies are doing to them in Yemen! without depleted uranium armor, it's an ordinary tank.
Depleted uranium not to stop the hollow charge projectile they meant to stop the kinetic energy projectile.
 
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1. Qaher-313 HAS BEEN CANCELED it's done and it will never happen!!!!!

False ... In redesigning process !

2. Iran is not producing Saegheh fighters anymore & from his words it seems the facilities, tools and equipment that were being used to build the Saegheh fighters are now being used to produce the far less advanced Kowsar trainers which seems to be a light jet powered trainer far less advanced than the even the Seamorgh (F-5B)

Subsonic means less advanced !?

Kowsar 88 is far more advanced than saeghe in avionics & quality !

3. Iran won't be purchasing the T-90 and instead will be producing a new tank called Karrar this leads me to conclude that the Zolfaghar-3 platform fell short of expectations because countries don't usually change platforms that quickly unless there is a reason to do so because you can always upgrade a good platform.
T-90 is basically a highly upgraded T-72 so I am willing to bet Iran's Karrar will more likely than not be a domestically produced upgraded T-72 that's already been produced under license in Iran.

Zulfiqar series are experimental... Got so much from t-72 ( engine , Gun ... )

But karrar is a different story...

In fact karrar will be expensive for army !

So they prefer locally produced T90 ...

& IRGC ground forces will purchase karrar !

4. Iran is in talks for the procurement of the Su-30... If I had to guess I would say Iran would likely get a batch of about 80 delivered in the next 10 years or so... probably at a rate of 12-24 aircraft's a year and deliver probably won't start for another 5 years or so.... meaning Iran currently as no short term plans to produce a reliable fighter and Iran's interest in domestic production of the aircraft means they have no real long term plan to produce a viable domestically designed fighter.

False... Iran works on a twin engined 5th generation & unmanned drones like X-45 !

But it won't get ready any time soon... So we have to get those Su30s to fill the gap !

5. Iran's 1000 tone Beesat submarine is far from reality and the 500 tone fatteh sub was a failure and failed simple structural tests and Iran had to go back to the drawing board and rebuild the sub using more durable materials

How do you know it's far from reality !?

You have no idea about prototyping & production process !

Submarine is a critical structure & you won't get it's problems before real tests...

Understand !?

We never had experience in this class & problems doesn't mean failure !
 
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Iranians are hopeless .. they thump their chests alot while on ground reality is quite different.
 
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