Iran and role in PKK support

[TurAr]

Non taken. But do you seem to be objective? Have you even seen an Iranian?

There in Iran, Iranians are allowed to do nothing, the moment they leave Iran, they start to get crazy, they drink too much, go to prostitutes, do crazy things. A few years a go, a crazy Iranian, with no job, no education, can't speak Dutch, is living of welfare, attacked a police officer to be able to brag to his friends. Iranians are seen as crazy guys here because there are not a lot of them here, and dutch people only get to see the bad ones in the city where I live.

Well, i don't blame them, i would probably do the same after leaving Iran for the first time

I'm not saying Iranians are bad. There are both Bad Turks and Iranians. But Surenas is trying to portray it like only Turks are bad

Agreed.

 

[Surenas]

What the fu*ck is Atawolf talking? Iranians are respected here; Turks in a way too (entrepreneurship), but they are overall seen as criminals, welfare-pullers and aggressive idiots. They are overrepresented in criminal statistics, low education stats and traditional thinking. We are the best non-western foreign group here, and elsewhere in the world too:

The group of asylum seekers appears to be better off in terms of education. Iranians are even slightly better educated than native Dutch. In the other groups, there is a clear dichotomy in a part that is low skilled and a part that just very highly educated (eg among Afghans and Iraqis). This does not apply to all refugee groups. Somali refugees include predominantly very low education, similar to the Turks and Moroccans in the Netherlands. The proportion of unqualified moored among these groups is extremely high.

A large part of Morocco, Somalia and especially Turkish women marry early and getting young children. They have more traditional ideas, little to go with natives and usually marry someone from their own ethnic group, often a marriage migrant. Surinamese, Antillean and Iranian women are modern in their relationships and family, and also in their cultural beliefs. They have relatively many contacts with natives and do it the best of all immigrant women in education and employment.

The first Iranians came to the Netherlands around 1985. They are mostly secular, only one third of them are religious. They come mainly from the major cities in Iran and are well educated, modern, western and individualistic.

Iranians in Sweden:

Among foreign-born young people, those who came from Iran, are the highest proportion of college students. At age 25, 45 per cent started studying at college. This means that it is as common to higher education among these young people among those with a Swedish background. Of the ten largest immigrant groups in Sweden are Iranians the group that has the most students. According to statistics from Statistics Sweden has over 33 percent of all dental students with immigrant roots from Iran. Iranians are particularly represented in courses in engineering, law, medicine and dentistry program.

Iranians in Germany:

This is one part explained by the socio-demographic and socio-economic composition of Iranian immigrants in Germany that have an extremely high level of education, the political and economic elite of Iran belonged, and are often adjusted secular.

Iranians in the United States:

According to the latest census data available, more than one in four Iranian-Americans holds a master's or doctoral degree, the highest rate among 67 ethnic groups studied.

The Small Business Administration (SBA) recently conducted a study that found Iranian immigrants among the top 20 immigrant groups with the highest rate of business ownership, contributing substantially to the U.S. economy. According to the report, there are 33,570 active and contributing Iranian American business owners in the U.S., with a 21.5% business ownership rate.

Iranian-Americans are among the most educated and successful communities in the U.S., according to a report by Iranian Studies group at MIT. Iranian-Americans have founded and/or participated in senior leadership positions of many major US companies, including many Fortune 500 companies such as GE, Intel, Verizon, Motorola, Google, and AT&T.

The study also found that the total net business income generated by Iranian Americans is $2,559,450,000. Almost one in three Iranian American households have annual incomes of more than $100K (compared to one in five for the overall U.S. population

Funny, that such 'crazy' people like the Iranians manage to become the most successful non-western immigrant group in every country they establish themselves. Makes you wonder how crazy they really are. At least we are not known for being poorly educated, criminals or conservative, as in committing honor killings, like many Turks in Europe do.

 

[atatwolf]

Here that farsi idiot comes with his cherry picked studies. If you asked a regular dutchmen about Iranians , the first thig to mind would be terrorism and crime, they don't know any iranians because most don't participate in society, only live off wellfare. There are almost no Iranians here and the ones that are are rotten apples in my city. Turks are much more respected than iranians because of progressive look on religion and turks also have huge contribution to economy here in europe. Stop tricking people here, nobody believes you. In your eyes all Iranians are perfect and all Turks are bad.

 

[Surenas]

Here that farsi idiot comes with his cherry picked studies. If you asked a regular dutchmen about Iranians , the first thig to mind would be terrorism and crime, they don't know any iranians because most don't participate in society, only live off wellfare. There are almost no Iranians here and the ones that are are rotten apples in my city. Turks are much more respected than iranians because of progressive look on religion and turks also have huge contribution to economy here in europe. Stop tricking people here, nobody believes you. In your eyes all Iranians are perfect and all Turks are bad.

We are not living by welfare. Our work-grade is higher than any of the other immigrant groups. Turks aren't respected; they call you guys stink Turks (smelly Turks). How can that be respected?

We are not seen as terrorists, because no Iranian has ever been conducting a terrorist attack. We are seen as a high educated people. Read this topic about how the Dutch view the Iranians:

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You can only talk, but can't provide any facts.

 

[atatwolf]

We are not living by welfare. Our work-grade is higher than any of the other immigrant groups. Turks aren't respected; they call you guys stink Turks (smelly Turks). How can that be respected?

We are not seen as terrorists, because no Iranian has ever been conducting a terrorist attack. We are seen as a high educated people. Read this topic about how the Dutch view the Iranians:

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You can only talk, but can't provide any facts.

They call us Turks stinky Turks? Haha, that is the first time I hear that.

Maybe they called you stinky because you come from a hole from The moutains farsi idiot. I don't understand who would any of the people here take you serious. You are racist to the bone. In evey topic you bring up the topic that everybody in europe loves farsi idiots like yourself. This only shows how insecure you are. We turks never step on other people to feel better about our selves. Deep inside you know that you are worth nothing apperantly. You need the approval of Europeans to be worth something.

 

[Surenas]

They call us Turks stinky Turks? Haha, that is the first time I hear that.

Maybe they called you stinky because you come from a hole from The moutains farsi idiot. I don't understand who would any of the people here take you serious. You are racist to the bone. In evey topic you bring up the topic that everybody in europe loves farsi idiots like yourself. This only shows how insecure you are. We turks never step on other people to feel better about our selves. Deep inside you know that you are worth nothing.

We are not coming from the mountains idiot. Or wait, didn't you guys have this Turkic Altai mountain myths? How funny. Here, about anti-Turkish sentiments in the Netherlands:

The Netherlands has a sizable Turkish minority group as well as Germany. Turkish ethnic minority group is the "second largest ethnic minority group living in the Netherlands" and their culture is considered to "differ substantially from Dutch culture". Even though progressive policies are installed, "especially compared with those in some other European countries such as Germany" Human Rights Watch criticized the Netherlands for new legislations violating the human rights of Turkish ethnic minority group.[84] The European Commission against Racism and Intolerance published its third report on Netherlands in 2008. In this report Turkish minority group is described as a notable community which have been particularly affected by "stigmatisation of and discrimination against members of minority groups" as a result of controversial policies of the governments of Netherlands. The same report also noted that "the tone of Dutch political and public debate around integration and other issues relevant to ethnic minorities has experienced a dramatic deterioration".

Recently, use of the word "allochtonen" as a "catch-all expression" for "the other" emerged as a new development. European Network against Racism, an international organisation supported by European Commission reported that, in Netherlands, half of the Turks reported having experienced racial discrimination. Same report points "dramatic growth of islamophobia" parallel with antisemitism. Another international organisation European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia highlighted negative trend in Netherlands, regarding attitudes towards minorities, compared to average EU results. The analysis also noted that compared to most other Europeans, in the Netherlands, majority group is "more in favour of cultural assimilation of minorities" rather than "cultural enrichment by minority groups".

Anti-Turkism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[atatwolf]

Pathetic. This farsi idiot is still continuing with his farsi fascism. We Turks don't need approval of other unlike you. Your existance is pathetic and you should return to the hole you come from instead of seekin approval of europeans because everybody hates you and despises Iran lifestyle that farsi idiots trying to hide.

 

[Uhuhu]

Are you aware that you have supplied the possible motive? Some friends of mine (iranian) saying the same thing.

what you mean?

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to Turks who all the time make troll threads and say iran is supporting pkk. instead of blathering prove it.
Iran is The only country That help turkey against pkk. where are others?your neighbors? your allies in NATO? huh? europians supporting pkk and let them to be free in their countries and you guys with no proof are saying Iran That is the only country help you, is supporting pkk?
It's so funny you accuse The only country in the world who help you against pkk. How about a thank you?!
Iranian members in PDF make friendly threads and turkish members are hard trying to be enemy with Iran,and make troll threads everyday against iranian. the only neighbor friend.

Iran is supporting pkk to explode Iranian gas pipeline in the border?!!
Iran is supporting pkk to make the region and the roads Unsafe when Turkey’s 3rd biggest trading partner is IRAN?!! dick heads.

read this.

TEHRAN – Iran was the third major trading partner of Turkey, next to Germany and Russia, in the first 8 months of 2012 with $17.52 in bilateral transactions, according to the Turkish Statistical Institute.

Turkey imported $8.94 billion worth of goods from Iran and exported $8.58 worth of goods during the 8-month period, ISNA reported on Wednesday.

On October 5, Iranian First Vice President Mohammad-Reza Rahimi announced that the speed of trade exchanges between Iran and Turkey has accelerated and will soon reach the targeted goal of 30 billion dollars per year.

Iran and Turkey have sharply increased the level of their trade ties over the past years. In 2000, the level of bilateral trade stood at only around $1 billion, but in 2010, it exceeded $10 billion. The figure hit $15 billion last year.

http://www.tehrantimes.com/economy-...an-turkeys-3rd-biggest-trading-partner-report

Just think a little bit more before you act.

 

[TurAr]

We are not coming from the mountains idiot. Or wait, didn't you guys have this Turkic Altai mountain myths? How funny. Here, about anti-Turkish sentiments in the Netherlands:



Anti-Turkism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OMG, really?

Do you think they hate us because we are Turks or is it about Islamophobia?

Do you think the same people who hate Turks would embrace Iranians? If you are Muslim you are fvcked, if you look like an Arab, which you do, again...

 

[Surenas]

Pathetic. This farsi idiot is still continuing with his farsi fascism. We Turks don't need approval of other unlike you. Your existance is pathetic and you should return to the hole you come from instead of seekin approval of europeans because everybody hates you and despises Iran lifestyle that farsi idiots trying to hide.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

I'm not a pure Turk, i have some Albanian blood in my veins. And no that is not my mentality...

Lets cool the thread a bit. Namık Kemal was 1/4 Albanian, right? Mehmet Akif's father was Albanian. I never heard racism towards Albanians here.

@ Iranians
Turks always react when provoked. Kurds provoke, they kill, they get killed. There are many ethnicities, but only Kurds make harm to society. We are not racists, Turks are hospitable people, not Tamerlane's bloodthirsty hounds.

 

[Surenas]

Do you think the same people who hate Turks would embrace Iranians? If you are Muslim you are fvcked, if you look like an Arab, which you do, again...

Islam certainly plays a role, but the integration problems too. I've no problems with Turks; I'm only showing how these European folks thinks of you guys.

 

[atatwolf]

Lol, says the hater, farsi idiot

 

[TurAr]

Islam certainly plays a role, but the integration problems too. I've no problems with Turks; I'm only showing how these European folks thinks of you guys.

Meh, i don't really give a fvck if you have a problem with Turks or not... But you clearly went full retard by posting that sht as if it is the fault of the Turks.

The guy posted a report that saying Turks are facing with racism in Netherlands and said "see they hate you". If those tards hate us, god knows what they are thinking about Iranians...

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I never heard racism towards Albanians here.

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Neither do i...

 

[Serpentine]

Meh, i don't really give a fvck if you have a problem with Turks or not... But you clearly went full retard by posting that sht as if it is the fault of the Turks.

The guy posted a report that saying Turks are facing with racism in Netherlands and said "see they hate you". If those tards hate us, god knows what they are thinking about Iranians...

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Neither do i...

TurAr,are you ok my bro?
He posted the links to disprove the bs that atatwolf said about Iranians.He said Turks are respected,but Iranians are hated and despised.Surenas just proved that it's not true.
I'm not saying it's Necessarily fault of Turks that they are discriminated in Europe,because Europeans,to some extent, have racism in their blood.The so called 'white supermacism'.
So please don't get angry,instead,you should criticize all the insults from your mate,atatwolf,who are filled with racism.