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Iran, Airbus strike deal for 12 A-380, 16 A-350 jets

That news was denied by officials,actually 3 A-330 will be delivered by the end of Persian year and 8 airplanes in total by the end of 2016.all types will be delivered by 2024.

IKIA phase one was supposed to have 2 active runways however one of its runways had an engineering failure thus it was inactive untill few months ago.now we can strengthen on of them and emergency landing will be handled by Mehrabad airport.
well if you have a storm in Tehran then mehrabad is not a viable landing alternate

Happened last night in Mashhad airport . Zagros Airlines :rolleyes: .
Type : McDonnell Douglas MD-83
First flight: 1990
The MD-83 aircraft sustained substantial damage in a runway excursion accident upon landing on runway 31R at Mashhad Airport (MHD), Iran.
The aircraft came to rest on the left side of runway 31R, 2200 m from the threshold.
7 injured .

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well I wonder why they allowed the airplane land in that airport that airplane have a history of skidding of runway in snowy weather.
 
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well if you have a storm in Tehran then mehrabad is not a viable landing alternate

well I wonder why they allowed the airplane land in that airport that airplane have a history of skidding of runway in snowy weather.
Thats why Mashhad airport and Esfahan airport are being prepared for A380.
 
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Thats why Mashhad airport and Esfahan airport are being prepared for A380.
that's not enough , they must upgrade all of our major international airports. Also there is something strange they are upgrading our airplanes but there is no news about modernizing our civilian airtrafic control system . it was state of the art at its time when we installed it it was even more advance than what USA had at the time but after half a century it really in need of modernizing. When I follow the news I see many news about military infrastructure but rarely I see any news about civilian one.
 
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Thats why Mashhad airport and Esfahan airport are being prepared for A380.
If Iran is going to get 12 A-380s Then I think our major airports need a revolution . IK and Isfahan airports should be prepared to keep 380s in hangars while Mashhad , Mehrabaad , Tabriz , Shiraz airports should have landing capacity for 380 . Otherwise in response to a crisis ,The plane should fly 1000 km to perform an emergency landing and that's not good . What do you think bro ?


Guys what the hell is wrong with Mashhad airport's runway (or planes :D) ?

بهمن ۱۳۹۴:یک فروند هواپیمای ام دی ۸۳ متعلق به هواپیمایی زاگرس هنگام فرود از باند فرودگاه مشهد خارج شد این سانحه تلفات جانی نداشت.
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بهمن ۱۳۸۸: یک فروند توپولف تی یو-۱۵۴ با ۱۵۷ مسافر پس از فرود روی باند فرودگاه مشهد آتش گرفت. در اثر این حادثه داخل هواپیما به کل سوخته و بال سمت راست و دم و چرخ هواپیما جدا شدند و ۴۲ تن از مسافران به بیمارستان منتقل شدند.
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۲ مرداد۱۳۸۸: پرواز شماره ۱۵۲۵ هواپیمایی آریا تور که از تهران به مشهد حرکت می‌کرد ساعت ۱۸:۰۵ دقیقه در فرودگاه مشهد، در هنگام فرود از باند خارج شد و به دیوار فرودگاه برخورد نمود.
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I am afraid they will fail to use those A380s properly anyway. 12 is too much even by 2020.

Do you think it is a big task preparing a few airports in Iran to serve this giant bird while they spend tens of billions on the plane itself? Iran that can afford buying A-380s will definately afford to equip its airports for them.. It is not a big deal specially when their delivery is years away

As authorities announced some international airports in big cities are preparing needed infra and emergency equipment for these big fellas (A-380s)... It takes a few years for the A-380s to be delivered and therefore, it is not a difficult task to prepare airports for them...

Aside from official announcements I have a retired friend of the same industry talking couple of days ago about this, he said, A-380s are being bought for a single reason by IranAir. Iranair was once one of the biggest global names in aviation industry and back then Iran Air as a new rival needed some winning cards to attract attention globally, this is why they were after B-747s and achieved records back then. He also said, there are at least 5 airports assigned to be made ready for these birds. Both as commercial-serving airports and also as emergency airports on the route for flights crossing Iranian air space (inlcluding A-380s took off or intended to land from/in IKA airport in Tehran)

So, ordering 12 big A-380s have some bold applications which is quite needed for Iranian aviation if she wants to go global again:

- It tells the world (passengers), you can trust me with your serious, long range flights as I have the best options available
- It is the best option for prestige and you always can maneuver on these big birds in your ads. It is hard to bold your rebirth by small or not-promotion-worthy airplanes. These birds will help Iran Air back on track globally soon.
- To serve Iranian diaspora in other part of the world (USA, Canada, Australia, UK), you need long range big planes which A-380 does it well..

Negative, IKIA's runway is not suitable for A-380.runway's length is ok but its asphalt is not suitable.for instance last year an Emirate A-380 managed to land on IKIA, half loaded because of IKIA's limits.

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for IKIA they have to strengthen one of its runways as a short term answer or they should accelerate the construction of IKIA phase 2.besides Tehran, ADP company will upgrade Mashhad and Esfahan for A-380 flights as well.
The New runaway (Southern Runway) can host A-380s and there is no problem with the runways on the delivery time.. The problem comes from emergency evacuation of 2 stories planes and some procedural standards needed for such a big bird and by ordering 12 of these planes, all new needed infra will be installed.

رضا قدیمی در گفت‌وگو با خبرنگار اقتصادی باشگاه خبری فارس «توانا»، ضمن اشاره به پیشرفت روند اجرایی فاز دو فرودگاه امام خمینی (ره)، به عملیات احداث ‌باند دوم پروازی این فرودگاه اشاره کرد و اظهار داشت: مجری اجرای باند دوم فرودگاه، همان مجری فاز دو است که با پی‌گیری‌های مطلوب این بخش، پیمانکار در احداث باند مذکور چند درصد هم از اهداف برنامه جلوتر است.وی ادامه داد: برای اجرای پروژه‌ها در فاز 2 بیش از 50 قرارداد مطالعه و طراحی انجام شده است؛ همچنین در باند جنوبی فرودگاه نیز فعالیت مناسبی در حال انجام است.مدیرکل فرودگاه بین‌المللی امام خمینی‌(ره) با اشاره به اینکه در احداث باند جنوبی و ترمینال زیارتی از برنامه جلوتر هستیم، تصریح کرد: ‌مدرن‌ترین تجهیزات کمک‌ناوبری برای باند جنوبی در نظر گرفته شده است. قدیمی افزود: این باند بزرگ‌ترین باند پروازی است که در داخل کشور ساخته می‌شود بنابراین ایرباس‌380 به عنوان پهن‌پیکرترین هواپیما نیز قادر است در این باند لندینگ کند.مدیرکل فرودگاه امام‌خمینی (ره) با بیان اینکه این باند پروازی دارای 60 متر عرض و بیش از 4 هزار متر طول است،

If Iran is going to get 12 A-380s Then I think our major airports need a revolution . IK and Isfahan airports should be prepared to keep 380s in hangars while Mashhad , Mehrabaad , Tabriz , Shiraz airports should have landing capacity for 380 . Otherwise in response to a crisis ,The plane should fly 1000 km to perform an emergency landing and that's not good . What do you think bro ?


Guys what the hell is wrong with Mashhad airport's runway (or planes :D) ?
https://defence.pk/threads/iran-air...-380-16-a-350-jets.419324/page-4#post-8117287

بهمن ۱۳۹۴:یک فروند هواپیمای ام دی ۸۳ متعلق به هواپیمایی زاگرس هنگام فرود از باند فرودگاه مشهد خارج شد این سانحه تلفات جانی نداشت.
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بهمن ۱۳۸۸: یک فروند توپولف تی یو-۱۵۴ با ۱۵۷ مسافر پس از فرود روی باند فرودگاه مشهد آتش گرفت. در اثر این حادثه داخل هواپیما به کل سوخته و بال سمت راست و دم و چرخ هواپیما جدا شدند و ۴۲ تن از مسافران به بیمارستان منتقل شدند.
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۲ مرداد۱۳۸۸: پرواز شماره ۱۵۲۵ هواپیمایی آریا تور که از تهران به مشهد حرکت می‌کرد ساعت ۱۸:۰۵ دقیقه در فرودگاه مشهد، در هنگام فرود از باند خارج شد و به دیوار فرودگاه برخورد نمود.
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Airports with A-380 capabiltiy will be on all sides of Iran (5 probably) to make sure A-380s find a close airport in case of emergency. Isfahan or Shiraz will be one of these.
BTW, There is nothing wrong with Mashhad airport. The problem comes with old planes take off and land on Mashhad airport. The reason you hear the most about planes crashing there is because the number of flights taking off//landing in Mashhad airport is a lot comparing to other airports... Mashhad airport is even busier than IKA airport in terms of passengers and planes using it... Hopefully with new planes we no longer hear such news... The good thing is that recent plane accidents mostly have no casualties...

no news about modernizing our civilian airtrafic control system
There are such projects underway bro... For instance, IKA and Mashhad airports are almost the end of a revoutionary modernizing their equipment...

well if you have a storm in Tehran then mehrabad is not a viable landing alternate

well I wonder why they allowed the airplane land in that airport that airplane have a history of skidding of runway in snowy weather.
Planes land and take off in snowy weather from Mashhad every minute... The problem was the old plane
 
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If Iran is going to get 12 A-380s Then I think our major airports need a revolution . IK and Isfahan airports should be prepared to keep 380s in hangars while Mashhad , Mehrabaad , Tabriz , Shiraz airports should have landing capacity for 380 . Otherwise in response to a crisis ,The plane should fly 1000 km to perform an emergency landing and that's not good . What do you think bro ?


Guys what the hell is wrong with Mashhad airport's runway (or planes :D) ?
https://defence.pk/threads/iran-air...-380-16-a-350-jets.419324/page-4#post-8117287

بهمن ۱۳۹۴:یک فروند هواپیمای ام دی ۸۳ متعلق به هواپیمایی زاگرس هنگام فرود از باند فرودگاه مشهد خارج شد این سانحه تلفات جانی نداشت.
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بهمن ۱۳۸۸: یک فروند توپولف تی یو-۱۵۴ با ۱۵۷ مسافر پس از فرود روی باند فرودگاه مشهد آتش گرفت. در اثر این حادثه داخل هواپیما به کل سوخته و بال سمت راست و دم و چرخ هواپیما جدا شدند و ۴۲ تن از مسافران به بیمارستان منتقل شدند.
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۲ مرداد۱۳۸۸: پرواز شماره ۱۵۲۵ هواپیمایی آریا تور که از تهران به مشهد حرکت می‌کرد ساعت ۱۸:۰۵ دقیقه در فرودگاه مشهد، در هنگام فرود از باند خارج شد و به دیوار فرودگاه برخورد نمود.
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If anything is going to interrupt in such a big scale,storm or snow for example, it will be predictable.so they will cancel the flights.just like what they did with in NY or Istanbul a while ago.however if sth happens suddenly,fog or earthquake for example) it will be limited to a small area.you guys should notice that airport developments might be even more costly than buying aircrafts.I am exactly a mr. Nobody to decide but I believe instead of investing on airports to hold A-380s they should be upgraded with hight class ILS SAT III navigation system that guarantees flight's safety in difficult environmental conditions.that would be costly too.priority must be placed on this case.

Also as mr. Parvaresh said, Homa has the right to reduce A-380 orders and convert them with more A-321s. There would be less A-380s I believe.

also there is nothing wrong with Mashhad's airport. LOL after all its the busiest airport after Mehrabad.Mehrabad also has a long history of harsh landings. our junkie birds are the reasons.

@scythian500
I dont know since when this new runway is opened but I am sure that last year , Emirates A-380 was obligated to land on IKIA half loaded due to its limits.

I didnt say Homa shouldnt go after the A-380. I mentioned the same reasons as well. but 12 is too much.5 or 6 would be ideal. mr.Parvaresh also said that they might reduce A-380 orders.

And for your notice A-350 is also a long range bird. and shes very beautiful.it can be used on all routes including in north and south America as well as Australia.

If Iran is going to get 12 A-380s Then I think our major airports need a revolution . IK and Isfahan airports should be prepared to keep 380s in hangars while Mashhad , Mehrabaad , Tabriz , Shiraz airports should have landing capacity for 380 . Otherwise in response to a crisis ,The plane should fly 1000 km to perform an emergency landing and that's not good . What do you think bro ?


Guys what the hell is wrong with Mashhad airport's runway (or planes :D) ?
https://defence.pk/threads/iran-air...-380-16-a-350-jets.419324/page-4#post-8117287

بهمن ۱۳۹۴:یک فروند هواپیمای ام دی ۸۳ متعلق به هواپیمایی زاگرس هنگام فرود از باند فرودگاه مشهد خارج شد این سانحه تلفات جانی نداشت.
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بهمن ۱۳۸۸: یک فروند توپولف تی یو-۱۵۴ با ۱۵۷ مسافر پس از فرود روی باند فرودگاه مشهد آتش گرفت. در اثر این حادثه داخل هواپیما به کل سوخته و بال سمت راست و دم و چرخ هواپیما جدا شدند و ۴۲ تن از مسافران به بیمارستان منتقل شدند.
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۲ مرداد۱۳۸۸: پرواز شماره ۱۵۲۵ هواپیمایی آریا تور که از تهران به مشهد حرکت می‌کرد ساعت ۱۸:۰۵ دقیقه در فرودگاه مشهد، در هنگام فرود از باند خارج شد و به دیوار فرودگاه برخورد نمود.
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If anything is going to interrupt in such a big scale,storm or snow for example, it will be predictable.so they will cancel the flights.just like what they did with in NY or Istanbul a while ago.however if sth happens suddenly,fog or earthquake for example) it will be limited to a small area.you guys should notice that airport developments might be even more costly than buying aircrafts.I am exactly a mr. Nobody to decide but I believe instead of investing on airports to hold A-380s they should be upgraded with hight class ILS SAT III navigation system that guarantees flight's safety in difficult environmental conditions.that would be costly too.priority must be placed on this case.

Also as mr. Parvaresh said, Homa has the right to reduce A-380 orders and convert them with more A-321s. There would be less A-380s I believe.

also there is nothing wrong with Mashhad's airport. LOL after all its the busiest airport after Mehrabad.Mehrabad also has a long history of harsh landings. our junkie birds are the reasons.

@scythian500
I dont know since when this new runway is opened but I am sure that last year , Emirates A-380 was obligated to land on IKIA half loaded due to its limits.

I didnt say Homa shouldnt go after the A-380. I mentioned the same reasons as well. but 12 is too much.5 or 6 would be ideal. mr.Parvaresh also said that they might reduce A-380 orders.

And for your notice A-350 is also a long range bird. and shes very beautiful.it can be used on all routes including in north and south America as well as Australia.
 
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And for your notice A-350 is also a long range bird. and shes very beautiful.it can be used on all routes including in north and south America as well as Australia.
It is not only about local flag carrier use of A-380s.. By preparing airports for A-380s we also can host other A-380s from different parts of the world... If Iran wants to become a regional or even global HUB again then its airports need to be able to host other carriers' A-380s which are increasing in number btw... If you check flightradar24 map you figure that lots of A-380s are crossing Iranian air space every single day.. so, why not hosting them as a hub and make even more money while fascinating the world with our own A-380s fleet? Other than this all your points are correct
 
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The ban on Iranians or any individual to enter US, who has travelled to Iran within the last five years is a sanction to keep Iran under check.

US should remove this discriminatory sanction against Iran first before Iran goes on to give commercial benefits to US companies.
The persian empire and byzantine roman empire were stuck in eternal war which eventually consumed both with Arabs rising as the winner...America is the inheritor of Roman empire and Iran is the new Persia...the mistrust is mutual...even the Brisith empire at its zenith mistrusted Iran and invaded it to secure oil for war..even though the Shah promised undisrupted oil supplies...

All of these deals have a big what if...and that is the ability of Iranians to pay...if oil dips too low...Iranian finances will start to get tights...

Iran has also built up capabilities to overhaul locally to survive the sanctions..these facilities can now be upgraded too..
 
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It is not only about local flag carrier use of A-380s.. By preparing airports for A-380s we also can host other A-380s from different parts of the world... If Iran wants to become a regional or even global HUB again then its airports need to be able to host other carriers' A-380s which are increasing in number btw... If you check flightradar24 map you figure that lots of A-380s are crossing Iranian air space every single day.. so, why not hosting them as a hub and make even more money while fascinating the world with our own A-380s fleet? Other than this all your points are correct
You are right.with phase two getting completed, IKIA will have the potential to become a hub.we both agree that A380 is a good choice and we both agree that we must upgrade our airports to host A-380s.the difference is on the quantity.this is IranAir management's concern as well. If we get our share in the aviation market from regional rivals.12 is fine.if not, according to the deal, we can reduce the order and convert them into more A321s.

Also your point about hosting other A380s might come true.Lufthansa for example will use B747 on Frankfurt-Tehran route from next summer.(they use A340-600 now)maybe they will need a more giant replacement some day.
 
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a big what if...and that is the ability of Iranians to pay...if oil dips too low...Iranian finances will start to get tights...
you mistaken Iran with other OPEC members. Iran has much more sources of income than only crude oil... Oil last year was only %30 of government budget and only %5 of Iranian GDP... Last year Iranians Non-oil exports exceeded all IMPORTS... This means even without oil Iran can function... Beside, an Italian insurance company guaranteed Iranian payment for Airbuses.. so don't worry bro



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Guys... Iran is after buying more than 40 ATR planes. I wonder if these bird are safe enough. Look at their accident track record:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_42
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_72

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Guys... Iran is after buying more than 40 ATR planes. I wonder if these bird are safe enough. Look at their accident track record:

/wiki/ATR_42
/wiki/ATR_72

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Something is wrong ... these birds are not safer than Iran-140 and in fact Iran-140 is better than these bird and just need some proper Turboprop engine to operate safely ...

Rouhani government is just acting selfishly to influence upcoming Parliament election .... at least we could ask assembly like of these birds in Iran and we make some parts of these birds but these government just acting like some Persian Gulf's Arab monarchies and just buying ....
 
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They should have gone for Bombardier or Embraer. Idiots.

Canadian are not reliable and Embraer doesn't have Turboprop airliner in this class ...
but We should ordered more planes in this class ....

I really like Turboprop Airplanes :smitten:
 
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Canadian are not reliable and Embraer doesn't have Turboprop airliner in this class ...
but We should ordered more planes in this class ....

I really like Turboprop Airplanes :smitten:

And why does it have to be a turboprop one? What's wrong with a regional turbofan jet?
 
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