Iran accuses Saudi Arabia of hitting embassy in Yemen air strike

[Madali]

both are going to kill each other like crazy but the sad part is pakistanis taking one of the sides in the discussion... we must wholly separate themselves from this mess... and i accuse myself too, cause of taking irans side cause they seemed rational but their embassy burning incident has shown they're every bit as foolish...

now of course the real people to look for are those who are very very loyal to iran or their ideology on this forum... they try everybit here and there to instigate hatred agianst arabs or to glorify themselves, often employing argument... three words... i despise them!

our utmost loyalty must lie with our state and none else...

anyways juice of the discussion is that the conflict between these two people is a fire in which we can be potentially burned so better stay the fvuk away!

Mobs attacked the embassy. If a Pakistan terrorist group does something, we Iranians don't blame all Pakistanis, so I don't see why you are blaming all of Iran for the actions of a few idiots.

Our country arrested them (we arrested 50 protestors) and are investigating it very seriously to see if any group was behind it. We showed regret with a letter to UN.

I'm sorry to say when Pakistani or Saudi terrorist groups kill our diplomatics in serious attacks against our embassies, we never consider it as an action by the whole country. But if one Iranian breaks an embassy window, then it becomes the fault of the whole country? This is unfair.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Golden Rain Showers are falling all over Arabian lands.

 

[Dalit]

Mobs attacked the embassy. If a Pakistan terrorist group does something, we Iranians don't blame all Pakistanis, so I don't see why you are blaming all of Iran for the actions of a few idiots.

Our country arrested them (we arrested 50 protestors) and are investigating it very seriously to see if any group was behind it. We showed regret with a letter to UN.

I'm sorry to say when Pakistani or Saudi terrorist groups kill our diplomatics in serious attacks against our embassies, we never consider it as an action by the whole country. But if one Iranian breaks an embassy window, then it becomes the fault of the whole country? This is unfair.

There can be no denial about the fact that Saudi Arabia and Iran are both playing their little games and causing bloodshed in other lands. Everyone knows that both Iran and Saudi Arabia are vying for dominance in the ME. That is what people are trying to point out because many countries have been affected by this tit for tit. Many innocent people have been killed on both sides due to this ugly cat and mouse game for dominance. There is nothing unfair in pointing out these facts. The truth is that there is no single innocent party in this whole conflict.

 

[Takaavar]

Look who is saying this.

You do realize Iran govt condemned the attack on the Saudi embassy

 

[Madali]

There can be no denial about the fact that Saudi Arabia and Iran are both playing their little games and causing bloodshed in other lands. Everyone knows that both Iran and Saudi Arabia are vying for dominance in the ME. That is what people are trying to point out because many countries have been affected by this tit for tit. Many innocent people have been killed on both sides due to this ugly cat and mouse game for dominance. There is nothing unfair in pointing out these facts. The truth is that there is no single innocent party in this whole conflict.

I am not talking about innocence or guilty. I am not talking generally, which would co plicate this discussion. I'm talking about this embassy attack which was an action taken by certain angry mob. The most we can guess would be a dozen idiots. Can we control the actions of each and every person in a country of 80 million? But we have arrested them and our security forces did their best to control the situation. We have also shown regret over the incident.

We should not compare the actions of a few with the actions of a government action.

 

[Dalit]

I am not talking about innocence or guilty. I am not talking generally, which would co plicate this discussion. I'm talking about this embassy attack which was an action taken by certain angry mob. The most we can guess would be a dozen idiots. Can we control the actions of each and every person in a country of 80 million? But we have arrested them and our security forces did their best to control the situation. We have also shown regret over the incident.

We should not compare the actions of a few with the actions of a government action.

All right, but I was referring to the conflict in its entirety and not a single isolated incident. How many more lives have to be lost before Iran and Saudi Arabia say that enough is enough? Too many innocent people have already become martyrs.

 

[Madali]

All right, but I was referring to the conflict in its entirety and one not isolated incident. How many more lives have to be lost before Iran and Saudi Arabia say that enough is enough? Too many innocent people have already become martyrs.

If I have time, I'll try to make a post about this so called Saudi-iran rivalry. Saudi considers us as our rivals, but we honestly don't. Our support for regional or groups have nothing to do with Saudi. Did we support Hezbollah to attack Saudi? Did we support Hamas as an anti-Saudi militia? Did our support for Syria was to destroy Saudi? If we are against Israel, is it to hurt Saudi?

Give me one foreign policy of Iran which shows that it was taken to harm Saudi Arabia. Ignore the media bullshit, go on, tell me.

 

[Takaavar]

Iran has to be the only country on the planet with an active embassy in Houthi-occupied and war-torn Sana'a. I wonder why that is?

Provided that this news is even genuine and that it was not an inside job to remove the focus from the burning of the Saudi Arabian embassy in Iran.

Because Iran is the only country on the planet who didn't forgot Yemen and Iranian Red Crescent (IRCS) is actively cooperating with Yemeni organs and is sending massive medical and food aids and send Yemeni wounded to Iran for treatment, nice try

 

[veg]

There can be no denial about the fact that Saudi Arabia and Iran are both playing their little games and causing bloodshed in other lands. Everyone knows that both Iran and Saudi Arabia are vying for dominance in the ME. That is what people are trying to point out because many countries have been affected by this tit for tit. Many innocent people have been killed on both sides due to this ugly cat and mouse game for dominance. There is nothing unfair in pointing out these facts. The truth is that there is no single innocent party in this whole conflict.

1) Iranian backs Shias in Pakistan ... Not a single soldier of Pak Army ever died at the hands of any Pakistani Shia. We were totally peaceful people till the time that Takfiries started killing us right and left.

2) Iran backs Shias in Nigeria... Not a single soldier of Nigerian Army ever killed by Shias.

Iran got peaceful agenda. But Takfiries compelled Iran and it's supporters to defend themselves.

Saudi Salafies are Fitna. They are creating all types of terrorism in all the lands. They are not only butchering Shias, but they are also killing Barailvies and Christians and all others, including Pak Army.

Even in Europe, these Takfiries are killing normal European people. You could not say that there is any Shia Sunni rivalry in Europe.

Please point out the facts, but with Justice.

Saudia and it's allies started offensive war against Iran right from the beginning when they provided Saddam Hussain with 50 Billion Dollars.

Iran is on defensive and fighting only the war of it's survival.

I protest if any one still equates Pakistani Shias to the Takfiries. We are Pakistan loving citizens.

 

[Dalit]

If I have time, I'll try to make a post about this so called Saudi-iran rivalry. Saudi considers us as our rivals, but we honestly don't. Our support for regional or groups have nothing to do with Saudi. Did we support Hezbollah to attack Saudi? Did we support Hamas as an anti-Saudi militia? Did our support for Syria was to destroy Saudi? If we are against Israel, is it to hurt Saudi?

Give me one foreign policy of Iran which shows that it was taken to harm Saudi Arabia. Ignore the media bullshit, go on, tell me.

Bro, there is no point in arguing over this. Iran and Saudi Arabia don't get along for the reasons we all know. It's all about increasing influence and power projection. It's a religious competition to a burgeoning geopolitical rivalry. After years of proxy wars in many countries, Iran and Saudi Arabia are now squaring up in the open. It's for everyone to see. Whilst Iran is trying its level best to influence the Shia populations across the Middle East, the Saudis obviously have no appetite for any of this.

 

[Takaavar]

Bro, there is no point in arguing over this. Iran and Saudi Arabia don't get along for the reasons we all know. It's all about increasing influence and power projection. It's a religious competition to a burgeoning geopolitical rivalry. After years of proxy wars in many countries, Iran and Saudi Arabia are now squaring up in the open. It's for everyone to see. Whilst Iran is trying its level best to influence the Shia populations across the Middle East, the Saudis obviously have no appetite for any of this.

I thought it was Saudis who started spreading extremists ideologies in Pakistan and Mid East back in the '90s.

 

[Madali]

Bro, there is no point in arguing over this. Iran and Saudi Arabia don't get along for the reasons we all know. It's all about increasing influence and power projection. It's a religious competition to a burgeoning geopolitical rivalry. After years of proxy wars in many countries, Iran and Saudi Arabia are now squaring up in the open. It's for everyone to see. Whilst Iran is trying its level best to influence the Shia populations across the Middle East, the Saudis obviously have no appetite for any of this.

I don't want to argue, and I'm not going to change the mind of anyone who has already come to his own conclusions. But I also know lots of conventional wisdom can be wrong.

As I said, none of Iran's foreign policies have been targeted at Saudi. The axis of resistance, which was Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah took what actions against Saudi?

If we want to have greater influence, that is not unqiue to neither Iran nor Saudi. Turkey tries to have greater influence, UAE tries it, Qatar does it, every country tries to increase their influence in their region and their world.

 

[Abd-ar-Rahman III]

Because Iran is the only country on the planet who didn't forgot to arm the radical Islamic Houthi rebels and who are actively cooperating with the same radical Islamic Houthi organs and is sending massive arms and weapons and wounded radical Islamic Houthi rebels to Iran for treatment, nice try

You are welcome.

Besides I seriously doubt that you are the only country which is sending "aid" to Yemen. Before your Islamic Houthi proxies, how much "aid" did you send to Yemen? My guess is nothing compared to what KSA has spent on that failed country.

I am sure that arming radical Islamic groups such as Houthi's and supporting them economically and politically in their quest of conquering all of Yemen shows how much you "care" for Yemen. I am sure that all Yemenis, as we have all seen, want to be subjected by those Houthis.

I am also sure that the same Houthi's were giving out flowers when they conquered most of Yemen before the Arab coalition reacted.

Anyway where is the evidence of this news being remotely genuine? Not even a single photo provided? Come on, you guys can do better than this.

 

[Takaavar]

Besides I seriously doubt that you are the only country which is sending "aid" to Yemen. Before your Islamic Houthi proxies, how much "aid" did you send to Yemen? My guess is nothing compared to what KSA has spent on that failed country.

We were talking about the war-torn Yemen, if you remember. I don't think there was any "catastrophe" (as UN puts it) before the Saudi invasion.

Regarding aids, and not "aids" in quotations, I can show you a ton of sources regarding numerous flights and cargos of Iranian medical and food aids, and have seen vids of many Yemeni kids in Iranian hospital. More:
PressTV-ICRC praises Iran aid to crisis-hit Yemen

I am sure that arming radical Islamic groups such as Houthi's and supporting them economically and politically in their quest of conquering all of Yemen shows how much you "care" for Yemen. I am sure that all Yemenis, as we have all seen, want to be subjected by those Houthis.

You apparently have no idea about the subject (or may be you are followeing WahhabiNews). Iran was not backing the Houthis for long time before the takeover of the Yemen, and discouraged the Houthis to takeover the country:
Iran Warned Houthis Against Yemen Takeover

Take a look at this as well and don't rely solely on WahhabiNews to judge about Iran:
Cable: 09SANAA1662_a

 

[Takaavar]

So you are telling us all here that only Iran is sending aid to Yemen currently? Really? So there is no Islamic Crescent, Red Cross around nor is the Arab Coalition etc. sending any aid? That's not what I have been reading in the international media.
No, before the Arab coalition intervened Yemen was peaceful. The bloody Houthi takeover never happened either. In other words Yemen was the region's most prosperous country and not engulfed in conflicts. Of course. Come on!

I don't know what "WahhabiNews" is. On the other hand I know what international media is and it's anonymously telling about and acknowledging Iranian support for Houthi's. Before and after the most recent war.
I cannot post links yet but search "Iranian support for Houthis" and if you do so you will get thousands of articles. There are even numerous photos and reports of captured Iranian arms by the Yemeni coastguard long ago. I guess this never happened either. There is other news available out there other than Iranian regime media.

Why can't you admit that your role in Yemen has been damaging? The whole world already knows about this. This discussion does not matter. You won't convince the world of anything else. KSA bombing Houthi's and allied Ali Abdullah Saleh militias won't solve anything either. A political solution is needed. The only reason why I prefer Hadi is because I am against radical Islamic groups whatever their sect and prefer governments to rule and not militias as that never works on the long run. Not to say that Egypt is part of the Arab coalition albeit in a more passive role.

Anyway I will try again. Where is the evidence of this news being remotely genuine? Not even a single photo provided? Come on, you guys can do better than this. That's quite a big accusation, you know. Anyway let's end it here since you ignore my question and we won't likely agree anyway.

Would you read what I say and follow the links I provide for god's sake?
There have never been such massive civillian casualties on a daily basis. Are you really comparing pre-Saudi-invaison Yemen with the current situation?
The link I provided proves there is undue media attention to Iran support for Houthis. The Iranian support for Houthis were mostly during the fight against Saleh. And according to US report there have been no support for several years until 2013.
The rest of your post is based on the assumption that Iran had a role in Yemeni conflict and takeover of Yemen by Houthis, which I proved to be fail in my previous post.
And Yes I have seen pics Iranian arms from Afghanistan to Sudan. So what?
Yes Iran's tole is damaging beacause Iran enforced aerial and naval blackade on Yemeni orphans and bombed their houses on a daily basis.

PressTV-'Iran to brief UN on Saudi assault'