Iran: A "Role Model" For Pakistan To Get Self-Reliance in Defence

[NeutralCitizen]

if iran becomes our role model, we would be killing cross border iranians

You have no Gas and Oil compared to the level of the Iranians. In fact Iran has been somewhat Anti Pakistan since the Shah's fall Shah Iran and Pakistan were very close.

 

[longbrained]

if iran becomes our role model, we would be killing cross border iranians

Yeah, that is the problem. Thousands of tonnes of narcotics are not moving by armed thugs from Iran into Pakistan. But reverse is true. If only we could seal off Afghan border completely, lots of things will improve including this one.

 

[longbrained]

You have no Gas and Oil compared to the level of the Iranians. In fact Iran has been somewhat Anti Pakistan since the Shah's fall Shah Iran and Pakistan were very close.

Pakistan has copper and lithium. And Iran has never been anti-Pakistan, only United States and its allies have been abandoning Pakistan. While today, Pakistan is suffering from serious energy shortages, Iran has offered gas, electricity and oil to Pakistan. United States on the other hand not only provided no energy to Pakistan but also went on providing 65 nuclear reactors to India our sworn enemy. So it is US that is anti-Pakistan. Your pathetic attempt to divide people here is failed.

So far US has failed to defeat Taliban and is begging them for negotiation:

How US is going to battle Iranian Zulfiqar tanks:

 

[W.11]

Yeah, that is the problem. Thousands of tonnes of narcotics are not moving by armed thugs from Iran into Pakistan. But reverse is true. If only we could seal off Afghan border completely, lots of things will improve including this one.

yeah i think u got some marital relations with iran??

about narcotics, they dont have rights to kill other nationalities, esp when they are innocent, iranians crossed our border today

we have given then nuke centrifuges and today iranians are jumping on making nukes, iranians must be thankful to us and not act like idiots

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Pakistan has copper and lithium. And Iran has never been anti-Pakistan, only United States and its allies have been abandoning Pakistan. While today, Pakistan is suffering from serious energy shortages, Iran has offered gas, electricity and oil to Pakistan. United States on the other hand not only provided no energy to Pakistan but also went on providing 65 nuclear reactors to India our sworn enemy. So it is US that is anti-Pakistan. Your pathetic attempt to divide people here is failed.

So far US has failed to defeat Taliban and is begging them for negotiation:

How US is going to battle Iranian Zulfiqar tanks:

Were not talking about copper and lithium but Gas and Oil and Pakistan does not have it at the level of Iran. Iran close relations with India ? it's pathetic thinking you can follow Iran, Sanction Pakistan, Arms embargo, etc etc you were merely a cold war puppet know that. Taliban Pakistan ? Iran's Zulfiqar tanks will be piles of burned junk just as Saddam 3000 + tanks were.

 

[W.11]

You have no Gas and Oil compared to the level of the Iranians. In fact Iran has been somewhat Anti Pakistan since the Shah's fall Shah Iran and Pakistan were very close.

we dont have oiol but we have gas, lots of unexplored gas, and oil we can order from saudiarabia, no body wants iranian oil

next time iraanians will be drinking oil instead of water because there will be no trade from them in future, if they make enemies like this

 

[longbrained]

yeah i think u got some marital relations with iran??

about narcotics, they dont have rights to kill other nationalities, esp when they are innocent, iranians crossed our border today

we have given then nuke centrifuges and today iranians are jumping on making nukes, iranians must be thankful to us and not act like idiots

Oh, come on. Do not get cheap. You know the facts about drugs, Jundallah and the situation in Baluchistan. Innocent people do not cross borders without passports carrying machine guns. And it is not like we have never killed foreign nationals crossing borders. The last time I remember, there were some Russian Chechens who were gunned downed for the same reason. Ever heard of that?

 

[FriendOfPakistan]

Only because Iran turned away from USA, while Pakistan did not, and Pakistan supported anti-iran Taliban in Afghanistan. However, the recent turn of events necessitates a rapprochement between the two countries.

. In fact Iran has been somewhat Anti Pakistan since the Shah's fall Shah Iran and Pakistan were very close.

 

[longbrained]

we dont have oiol but we have gas, lots of unexplored gas, and oil we can order from saudiarabia, no body wants iranian oil

next time iraanians will be drinking oil instead of water because there will be no trade from them in future, if they make enemies like this

So we have to make enemies with Iran too as per your wishes. We are already enemy with India, Afghanistan and now it is going to be Iran. I wonder when is communist China going to be added to your list so that Pakistan would be completely surrounded by enemies so that your fanaticism can be fulfilled. Just look at yourself, you are the side of 500 and Neutral citizen. Not something to be proud of at all.

 

[W.11]

Oh, come on. Do not get cheap. You know the facts about drugs, Jundallah and the situation in Baluchistan. Innocent people do not cross borders without passports carrying machine guns. And it is not like we have never killed foreign nationals crossing borders. The last time I remember, there were some Russian Chechens who were gunned downed for the same reason. Ever heard of that?

iranians killed in our territory, last time they also killed in our territory

about chechens, i condemned the killings, u can see my posts, every pakistani did, are you getting paid by tehran, i dont expect any dignified pakistaani to act retard and defend some alien guys who also live in an elien world against your own countrymen, i hope irananis shoot you next time, how do you feel tht??

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So we have to make enemies with Iran too as per your wishes. We are already enemy with India, Afghanistan and now it is going to be Iran. I wonder when is communist China going to be added to your list so that Pakistan would be completely surrounded by enemies so that your fanaticism can be fulfilled. Just look at yourself, you are the side of 500 and Neutral citizen. Not something to be proud of at all.

chinese are not acting retard and killing our people across the border, you mean we start act like retard and make friend with the idiots, like we start making american friends, and start giving them supplies?

 

[longbrained]

Were not talking about copper and lithium but Gas and Oil and Pakistan does not have it at the level of Iran. Iran close relations with India ? it's pathetic thinking you can follow Iran, Sanction Pakistan, Arms embargo, etc etc you were merely a cold war puppet know that. Taliban Pakistan ? Iran's Zulfiqar tanks will be piles of burned junk just as Saddam 3000 + tanks were.

You only wish that. Copper and Lithium are exactly oil and gas in international trading. Both are highly south after commodities with high prices. Iran is doing trade with India and so does Pakistan infact recently India became MFN with Pakistan in terms of trade something Iran has never been. We already been under sanctions in 1990's and during that time Pakistan developed most of its arms industry from ballistic missiles to overhaul heavy mechanical complexes.

And how is begging to negotiate with Taliban going? Any luck to find them in mountains?

 

[W.11]

Only because Iran turned away from USA, while Pakistan did not, and Pakistan supported anti-iran Taliban in Afghanistan. However, the recent turn of events necessitates a rapprochement between the two countries.

and you guys supported anti pakistan northern alliance

 

[longbrained]

iranians killed in our territory, last time they also killed in our territory

about chechens, i condemned the killings, u can see my posts, every pakistani did, are you getting paid by tehran, i dont expect any dignified pakistaani to act retard and defend some alien guys who also live in an elien world against your own countrymen, i hope irananis shoot you next time, how do you feel tht??

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chinese are not acting retard and killing our people across the border, you mean we start act like retard and make friend with the idiots, like we start making american friends, and start giving them supplies?

The only retard here is you. As I said, look at yourself you are standing on the side of Neutralcitizen and 500 on this thread, I consider that as a shame for a Pakistani. As for Iran they can do whatever they want since they are sovereign. As for killings, I must advise you that there have been more Iranians killed in Pakistan than Iran can ever manage to kill Pakistanis. Diplomats, students, contractors, and even Iranian military guests have been gunned down in Pakistan. So your protest is a moot one since Baluchistan as per statement of our own officials is not completely under our control. And do not accuse me again. It is because of people like you that we are in such a mess.

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and you guys supported anti pakistan northern alliance

And you guys killed their diplomats. And the same Taliban is now killing us. Happy?

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Karachipunk, are you a Taliban supporter?

 

[FriendOfPakistan]

Anti-taliban ... and only after Taliban demonstrated enmity towards Iran. Support should have gone earlier, since the Northern Alliance are Persian-speaking and it should have been natural to support them earlier (except that Iranian government did not have a nationalist agenda due to their religious nature). It was anti-Taliban, perhaps pro-Persian, but not anti-Pakistan ... unless Pakistan is anti-Persian, which I doubt.

and you guys supported anti pakistan northern alliance

 

[W.11]

Anti-taliban ... and only after Taliban demonstrated enmity towards Iran. Support should have gone earlier, since the Northern Alliance are Persian-speaking and it should have been natural to support them earlier (except that Iranian government did not have a nationalist agenda due to their religious nature). It was anti-Taliban, perhaps pro-Persian, but not anti-Pakistan ... unless Pakistan is anti-Persian, which I doubt.

pro taliban was also because of nationalism, as more pashtuns are in pakistan than afghanistan, talibans played important part in freeing afghanistan from soviets

it was pro shia, and anti sunni matter, religion was in it, also talibans are not anti iran, they are just anti northern alliance which were used by both iran and america to occupy afghanistyan, if there was no northern alliance afghanistan would have been free.

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The only retard here is you. As I said, look at yourself you are standing on the side of Neutralcitizen and 500 on this thread, I consider that as a shame for a Pakistani. As for Iran they can do whatever they want since they are sovereign. As for killings, I must advise you that there have been more Iranians killed in Pakistan than Iran can ever manage to kill Pakistanis. Diplomats, students, contractors, and even Iranian military guests have been gunned down in Pakistan. So your protest is a moot one since Baluchistan as per statement of our own officials is not completely under our control. And do not accuse me again. It is because of people like you that we are in such a mess.

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And you guys killed their diplomats. And the same Taliban is now killing us. Happy?

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Karachipunk, are you a Taliban supporter?

i have not read any of their post, im speaking for pakistan, we dont need alliance with these isolated guys who are going crazy day by day, its just natural to leave iran what ever relations we do share with them right now.

the relations are only because of shia bhutto family, and i hope the relations will finish as soon as there are another elections early this year

i dont favour any sunni from shia and vce versa, irani killing our people and violating our border is the same as nato attack, you are going emotional over muslim brotherhood and shia brotherhood

i have no sympathy feeling for any muslim country who doesnt respect us and kill our innocents