Invincible Resolve - Documentary to Honour our Heroes for Operation Swift Retort

[Pakistani Fighter]

Exactly what happened.

Our EW and Jammers have that much range

 

[StormBreaker]

Exactly what happened.

BTW, we all discuss about the airframe life of fighter jets, what about these supporting aircrafts ?
@Knuckles @Windjammer

If PAF uses its AWACS aircrafts as primary supporting aircrafts then i assume that their airframe life or hours will be used up quite fast as well ?

Kindly don’t share anything which is sort of confidential, just basic open source info and comparison of IAF (Current and Future AWACS) vs PAF’s ZDK-03 and SAABs

 

[truthfollower]

This will do better...

 

[StormBreaker]

Imagine a PAF video with background song “Shakar wandaan re Mora piya mose milan aayo!”, Our Brother Trailer23 will definitely get very happy

 

[krash]

BTW, we all discuss about the airframe life of fighter jets, what about these supporting aircrafts ?
@Knuckles @Windjammer

If PAF uses its AWACS aircrafts as primary supporting aircrafts then i assume that their airframe life or hours will be used up quite fast as well ?

Kindly don’t share anything which is sort of confidential, just basic open source info and comparison of IAF (Current and Future AWACS) vs PAF’s ZDK-03 and SAABs

The types and degree of stress that these aircraft are subjected to is a lot less severe than what, say, a JF-17 would go through. Hence, their air frame life isn't as restrictive or as limited as is for the faster combat jets. Extending their air frame life is relatively easier as well. If maintained properly and on time these aircraft can keep going for decades. We have a C-130 flying which was built in 1958. Our newest one was built in 1967.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

How do we know it's the footage of the same jets on the same day?

Found it on the YouTube ---- Video was titled so, I believed it (may be I wanted to )

 

[Raider 21]

Guys! Hope you enjoy this one....I think this is missing from this thread so far.....only 39 seconds but made me immensely proud.....I felt like 16 years old (again).

@Trailer23

I would also like to propose changing the title of this video: "PAF returns after Gang Bang of Indians"

@Horus @Dubious @araz @Arsalan @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Dazzler @fatman17 @ghazi52 @Hodor @Irfan Baloch @Imran Khan @Khafee @Knuckles @Socra @waz @Windjammer @dbc @Aamir Hussain
@airomerix @Ahmet Pasha @Ali_Baba @ARMalik @Ark_Angel @Armchair @Arsalan 345 @Falcon26 @Flight of falcon @FuturePAF @HawkEye27 @Haroon Baloch @HRK @khanasifm @Liquidmetal @Maxpane @crankthatskunk @Cookie Monster @Dil Pakistan @graphican @GriffinsRule @Hakikat ve Hikmet @Haris Ali2140 @I S I @Jinn Baba @krash @Khanivore @khansaheeb @Knuckles @loanranger @maximuswarrior @Microsoft @mingle @Mrc @NA71 @Pakhtoon yum @PAKISTANFOREVER @Path-Finder @PWFI @Rafi @Reichsmarschall @Riz @Sabretooth @Shane @Signalian @Starlord @Stealth @StormBreaker @Super Falcon @_Sherdils_ @Syed Hammad Ahmed @TF141 @The Accountant @TheTallGuy @Thorough Pro @TOPGUN @Tps43 @TsAr @Vortex @War Thunder @ziaulislam @Zulfiqar
@assasiner @PakSword @aliyusuf @PDFChamp @Ghessan @Metanoia @Counter-Errorist @Tank131

Looks like a late afternoon. Their mission happened in the morning. Could be the angle and camera.

 

[SQ8]

It was a just talk from what I heard (current air chief's words), will ask in more detail when he hands it over to the next air chief. But shooting a helo ain't that much of a challenge. Has happened before. Could be anything.

Im just imagining the scenario -
We have a bison bugging out back towards Srinagar and he is tasked or takes a pot shot at this helo.

Now IAF Mi-17s have a pretty distinct camo so we are dealing with a seriously incompetent pilot(shell shock being part of it) who screwed up a tasking order to take down this unknown bandit(more screwup by IAF helo pilots going without IFF ) and/or incompetence by Indian GCI who assumed the target hostile without looking at the flight path, all compounded by heavy EW.

So it is plausible, but it only adds to the mystery of why the hip was flying in the area without IFF or a seemingly a flight plan in the first place.

If it was transporting these personnel to a key area it would have filed something that would make Indian Air defense not treat it as a threat.
So this hip was definitely scrambled from Srinagar for something unless the IAF operates like a flying club with pilots deciding whenever they feel like flying.

Firstly the question rises as what was that helicopter doing in the middle of a dogfight, secondly, surely the Spyder operators could see how deep their designated target was inside the Indian side of LOC and then the slow-speed it was chugging at......the whole Indian theory is not just thin it's damn invisible.

Whichever way it goes - it either paints the IAF as completely awe struck and paralyzed or as a bunch of flying club types who operate in a vacuum.

Why was a Mi-17 flying at an altitude high enough during a hot airspace to both show up as a blip on our radar and theirs without any IFF and a flight plan?

Unless it too off in a hurry to pick someone up before anyone else got to them. Since this happened before Abhinandan was shot down, the signs all point to either another IAF aircraft downed earlier or some high official on the front wanting to run back to base asap. I don’t think it was the latter because one can take bathroom breaks on the front line if need be.

Guys! Hope you enjoy this one....I think this is missing from this thread so far.....only 39 seconds but made me immensely proud.....I felt like 16 years old (again).

@Trailer23

I would also like to propose changing the title of this video: "PAF returns after Gang Bang of Indians"

@Horus @Dubious @araz @Arsalan @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Dazzler @fatman17 @ghazi52 @Hodor @Irfan Baloch @Imran Khan @Khafee @Knuckles @Socra @waz @Windjammer @dbc @Aamir Hussain
@airomerix @Ahmet Pasha @Ali_Baba @ARMalik @Ark_Angel @Armchair @Arsalan 345 @Falcon26 @Flight of falcon @FuturePAF @HawkEye27 @Haroon Baloch @HRK @khanasifm @Liquidmetal @Maxpane @crankthatskunk @Cookie Monster @Dil Pakistan @graphican @GriffinsRule @Hakikat ve Hikmet @Haris Ali2140 @I S I @Jinn Baba @krash @Khanivore @khansaheeb @Knuckles @loanranger @maximuswarrior @Microsoft @mingle @Mrc @NA71 @Pakhtoon yum @PAKISTANFOREVER @Path-Finder @PWFI @Rafi @Reichsmarschall @Riz @Sabretooth @Shane @Signalian @Starlord @Stealth @StormBreaker @Super Falcon @_Sherdils_ @Syed Hammad Ahmed @TF141 @The Accountant @TheTallGuy @Thorough Pro @TOPGUN @Tps43 @TsAr @Vortex @War Thunder @ziaulislam @Zulfiqar
@assasiner @PakSword @aliyusuf @PDFChamp @Ghessan @Metanoia @Counter-Errorist @Tank131

I do not trust Youtube videos at ALL
This could be any random video of PAF fighters uploaded by someone looking for viewers.

Unfortunately that is the state of social media that one has to assume everything is fake before carefully vetting it to be true.

 

[Adam_Khan]

Mid March normally. It is going to be Paracha from what I last heard from a colleague, not to mention the tradition has normally been DCAS Ops taking over as the Air Chief position.

Do you have any idea about what happened to the last VCAS,he has completely gone off the scene after being replaced. Has he retired or what?

 

[Dazzler]

Radars and comm were jammed/ spoofed.

IFF is a communication sensor afterall...

 

[truthfollower]

Air Chief Dhanoa "Our AWACS and ELINT aircrafts were flying we knew what kind of air defenses were active and what kind of radars were used and locations, We got the whole electronic map"
at 7:00

Reporter "lessons learned from Balakot strike"
Air chief Dhanoa"Shortcomings in perception battle, Next time if we need 4 bombs we will use 2 bombs for perception battle only"
at 40:19

 

[Mighty Lion]

Air Chief Dhanoa "Our AWACS and ELINT aircrafts were flying we knew what kind of air defenses were active and what kind of radars were used and locations, We got the whole electronic map"
at 7:00

Reporter "lessons learned from Balakot strike"
Air chief Dhanoa"Shortcomings in perception battle, Next time if we need 4 bombs we will use 2 bombs for perception battle only"
at 40:19

Yes, we had an AWACS over Adampur and scrambled one of RAWs G5000 ELINT aircraft with COMJAM capabilities althougg by the time it reached battle zone combat was over

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Yes, we had an AWACS over Adampur and scrambled one of RAWs G5000 ELINT aircraft with COMJAM capabilities althougg by the time it reached battle zone combat was over

Can you provide any reference to your claim that G5000 has Jamming capabilities???

 

[Mighty Lion]

Can you provide any reference to your claim that G5000 has Jamming capabilities???

It's not in public domain.
But Elta won a $50 million contract for comjam suites.

Recently IAF ACM Dhanoa confirmed India can listed to even PAFs secure comms (on R&S SDRs).

 

[Windjammer]

Yes, we had an AWACS over Adampur and scrambled one of RAWs G5000 ELINT aircraft with COMJAM capabilities althougg by the time it reached battle zone combat was over

If you had a brain, you would be dangerous....with Abhinandan not even knowing his own location, the IAF surely had Elint covering the battlefield.