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Invading Pakistan? The Worst Idea Yet

in afghanistan their are only 10 million pushtoons and they are crying to them

in pakistan 35 million pushtoons.they will be Fu***D up
 
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Great thoughts.:hitwall: You have guns in each home but where they goes whenever a war broke up or when 90000 of martial race soldiers drop their guns???
Indians too can say that their population is so huge that they can beat pakistan just by lathis and dandas. Will you buy it???
Just talk about your own strengths which is nothing in front of US not like china will come or russia will help.

We both Indians as well as Pakistanis are at the same end dude and ironicaly its the recieving end.

If the comparision between Pakistan and US in incongruent, then dont compare ur civilian 'lathis' with our civilian 'guns'!

the 90,000 soldiers ur refering to were deceieved by the US. but im sure u know that old adage, nobody can fool the cat twice. and since we are recalling history, also recall ur whining and howling in the kargil hills where we dispatched 100s of ur soldiers to hell. :sniper:

Are u sure that the Chinese and Russians wont come to help us? Did the Israelis not help u out in the past in similar situations? Now go and bang ur head on the wall...:hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:

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I dont know in which world Pakistanis and Hindustanis lives. Must be dreamland.
Can any one tell me what are our options if one day american ICBMS hit all major cities both side or their bombers drops millions of bombs.
They will come they will go.
The only thing left will be silence and cries.
Wake up.

WHAT!!???!!!???!! :woot:

ever heard of sleeper cells? ever did a google search as to how easy it is to get a nuke in the russian black market? ever read up on the fact that smuggler mafias and other cartels are capable of smuggling ANYTHING inside the US. :azn:

Here's a hint

Sleeper Cells + Nuke in russian markets (- nukes from Russian black market, coz Pakistan has his own) + Smugglers and Cartels = ???

LET THERE BE FIRE!!! :flame::partay:
 
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If you think that the US will not ultimately gang up with India and attack Pakistan militarily, then u are wrong bro, thats what they are ultimately going for. How else can u explain these two things?

1. India's Cold Start strategy
2. India and Us signing an allaince to go into 'hot' pursuit into any country regardless of borders

War is not fun and nobody can imagine the horrors of war until it befalls a nation, but war is also inevitable! it is the BIGGEST part of world history, and sadly the choice of nations to settle dispute.

What do u want Pakistanis to do in case of such US adventurism? lay down our weapons and present our back sides to them? Jingonism aside, if it comes to this, the Us will pay a heavy price, a price it can not afford to pay. by ur logic, if the US will obliterate us, that wouldnt be the case with the US self obliterating itself.

grave consequences, but wat can a man do at desperate times?

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You talk some logic but keeping India aside let discuss a hypothetical situation.
What will be your course of action when someday some ICBMs hit Islamabad, karachi, peshawar and all imp cities?
 
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As a Pakistani, I am concerned for my nation. The scale of challenges and trials that my nation is facing in current times is at astounding levels.

I am sure that you would be concerned for yours too.

The pressures of WOT and natural disasters are making lives difficult for common man here. The economy is in very poor shape and inflation is slowly but surely becoming unbearable.

And to further the tensions, talks of a 'potentially devastating war' are taking place which involves our soil.

And some think that it would be a joke or something? I am trying to give some reality check here.

Due to our continued shortsightedness regarding various forms of threats and challenges, you can see where we stand today.

Wars only bring death and destruction to nations involved. We do not need another one.

a little Ghalib for u bro.

Shama har rang mey jalti hey seher hone tak! ;)

Times will change soon bro. don't loose heart
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If you think that the US will not ultimately gang up with India and attack Pakistan militarily, then u are wrong bro, thats what they are ultimately going for. How else can u explain these two things?

1. India's Cold Start strategy
2. India and Us signing an allaince to go into 'hot' pursuit into any country regardless of borders
I believe I have covered this point already

Here;

India will openly support America. The biggest challenge to India is from Pakistan from within the subcontinent. If this threat is to be removed, why would India let the chance slip by?

Do not forget this saying: mooun mein ram ram, bagal mein churah

War is not fun and nobody can imagine the horrors of war until it befalls a nation, but war is also inevitable! it is the BIGGEST part of world history, and sadly the choice of nations to settle dispute.
I have covered this part as well:

As a Pakistani, I am concerned for my nation. The scale of challenges and trials that my nation is facing in current times is at astounding levels.

I am sure that you would be concerned for yours too.

The pressures of WOT and natural disasters are making lives difficult for common man here. The economy is in very poor shape and inflation is slowly but surely becoming unbearable.

And to further the tensions, talks of a 'potentially devastating war' are taking place which involves our soil.

And some think that it would be a joke or something? I am trying to give some reality check here.

Due to our continued shortsightedness regarding various forms of threats and challenges, you can see where we stand today.

Wars only bring death and destruction to nations involved. We do not need another one.

What do u want Pakistanis to do in case of such US adventurism? lay down our weapons and present our back sides to them? Jingonism aside, if it comes to this, the Us will pay a heavy price, a price it can not afford to pay.
Did I suggested that we should not defend our homeland? Some will surely fight.

Iraqi people resisted the invaders too. However, we know what happened when the world's most powerful military came down on them.

And can you predict that how much price US is willing to pay for its interests? Read its history. You will get the picture.

Do not underestimate them. And I repeat this; Do not underestimate them.

by ur logic, if the US will obliterate us, that wouldnt be the case with the US self obliterating itself.

grave consequences, but wat can a man do at desperate times?

:pakistan:
Explain to me that how we can oblierate USA? Good luck finding an answer.
 
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WHAT!!???!!!???!! :woot:

ever heard of sleeper cells? ever did a google search as to how easy it is to get a nuke in the russian black market? ever read up on the fact that smuggler mafias and other cartels are capable of smuggling ANYTHING inside the US. :azn:

Here's a hint

Sleeper Cells + Nuke in russian markets (- nukes from Russian black market, coz Pakistan has his own) + Smugglers and Cartels = ???

LET THERE BE FIRE!!! :flame::partay:
ohhh sorry ignore my question to you. You are too inteligent to answer it :rofl::rofl:
 
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in afghanistan their are only 10 million pushtoons and they are crying to them

in pakistan 35 million pushtoons.they will be Fu***D up
Here is some latest news:

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Source: 25 Tons of Bombs Wipe Afghan Town Off Map | Danger Room | Wired.com

Yes! They are fighting back and not running:

Record level of US airstrikes hit Afghan militants | Latest News Update | Latest BBC News Update

Taliban on the run from some provinces?

Taliban Remnants Gone From Afghan Town After Offensive, US General Says - Afghanistan - Zimbio

We need to stop focusing too much on Taliban propaganda.
 
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If the comparision between Pakistan and US in incongruent, then dont compare ur civilian 'lathis' with our civilian 'guns'!

the 90,000 soldiers ur refering to were deceieved by the US. but im sure u know that old adage, nobody can fool the cat twice. and since we are recalling history, also recall ur whining and howling in the kargil hills where we dispatched 100s of ur soldiers to hell. :sniper:

Are u sure that the Chinese and Russians wont come to help us? Did the Israelis not help u out in the past in similar situations? Now go and bang ur head on the wall...:hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:

:pakistan:

Those who ignore the facts doomed fast.:devil:
Tell me a single nation helping you straight in times of war???
China:lol:
 
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a little Ghalib for u bro.

Shama har rang mey jalti hey seher hone tak! ;)

Times will change soon bro. don't loose heart
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Brother,

I appreciate your enthusiasm. Like you, I want to see a prosperous and strong Pakistan.

When you are strong; you are virtually safe from external threats. See the example of China.

However, I am seeing this beautiful nation being held back by corruption and terrorism. It is a pain for hardworking people of Pakistan. And on the top of this, lack of understanding of ground realities is plaguing common man here. Get the picture?
 
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I believe I have covered this point already

Here;




I have covered this part as well:




Did I suggested that we should not defend our homeland? Some will surely fight.

Iraqi people resisted the invaders too. However, we know what happened when the world's most powerful military came down on them.

And can you predict that how much price US is willing to pay for its interests? Read its history. You will get the picture.

Do not underestimate them. And I repeat this; Do not underestimate them.


Explain to me that how we can oblierate USA? Good luck finding an answer.

so what ARe u suggesting, ur behaving like Noam Chomsky baby! providing the chaos but no answers.

And i didnt say that WE are going to obliterate the US. I said US will self-Obliterate :)

We both agree that there are horrendous consequences of war, but please suggest what should be done if such naked aggression is forced upon us? Since we both agree that it could very well happen...

:pakistan:
 
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Those who ignore the facts doomed fast.:devil:
Tell me a single nation helping you straight in times of war???
China:lol:

the dynamics of geo-politics and war have changed tremendously. Are the US not helped by the Indians, French, UK, Germany, Australia etc for thr PUSUIT OF POLITICAL GOALS? what makes u think that in s goat muck of such epic proportions, the Chinese, and Russians will not wanna have some fun? it will be in the interest of china and russia (and iran) to see US bruised and bloody, think before u speak, ur national pride is at stake when u say something stupid on an international forum :chilli::rofl::lol:
 
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so what ARe u suggesting, ur behaving like Noam Chomsky baby! providing the chaos but no answers.

And i didnt say that WE are going to obliterate the US. I said US will self-Obliterate :)

We both agree that there are horrendous consequences of war, but please suggest what should be done if such naked aggression is forced upon us? Since we both agree that it could very well happen...

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First of all, US will not self-oblierate. That nation is united from inside. This is what gives it strength.

You want solution?

1. Uplift the nation's economy; Stop depending upon US aid.

2. End the corruption; we need to produce leaders like Nelson Mendala or Quaid-e-Azam. And not like Zardari.

3. Improve relations with all neighbours and stop participating in wars of others. We actually did this in Afghanistan and we are now paying the price.

4. Invest in R&D and develop proper industry through which we can create tools that we want to use.

5. Address all internal weaknesses. Treat all fellow Pakistani in fair manner and meet the concerns of the needy.

Trust me! American threat will go down the drain, if we manage to accomplish the above 5. Their will be no weaknesses left for America to exploit in Pakistan then.

Does example of China ring any bells? Even India has started to learn from others.

Remember what Quaid wanted to teach us?

  • Unity
  • Faith
  • Discipline

Sadly! We never understood Quaid's message.
 
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First of all, US will not self-oblierate. That nation is united from inside. This is what gives it strength.

You want solution?

1. Uplift the nation's economy; Stop depending upon US aid.

2. End the corruption; we need to produce leaders like Nelson Mendala or Quaid-e-Azam. And not like Zardari.

3. Improve relations with all neighbours and stop participating in wars of others. We actually did this in Afghanistan and we are now paying the price.

4. Invest in R&D and develop proper industry through which we can create tools that we want to use.

5. Address all internal weaknesses. Treat all fellow Pakistani in fair manner and meet the concerns of the needy.

Trust me! American threat will go down the drain, if we manage to accomplish the above 5. Their will be no weaknesses left for America to exploit in Pakistan then.

Does example of China ring any bells? Even India has started to learn from others.

Remember what Quaid wanted to teach us?

  • Unity
  • Faith
  • Discipline

Sadly! We never understood Quaid's message.

Nice post and agree with you cent percent, but bro, i was asking for ur solutions in connection to such an event where we are attacked, ur getting derailed here.

we all agree that Pakistan must progress on all the facets hi-lighted by you , but they are beyond the scope of this present disscussion.

Im merely asking u for a solution about the US bringing cannons to our doors, what are ur suggestions pertaining to that, since u do agree that such an event may be on US strategic drawing boards?

Secondly, the US is suffering immnsely from internal problems. Do u know that 9 trillion dollars were found to be missing from the US Federal reserves, they are investigating the problem but are clueless as to what has happened to this money.

Some other problems in the US

1. Drugs

2. Russian, Mexican, Italian cartels disturbing economy. Their cheif businesses include smuggling of all kinds.

3. Highly dependent on fossil fuel, to the extent that when pirates in the niger delta strike an oil rig, the US gets very concerned, even though it only reveices around 800,000 barrels of oil from that source per day. The ongoing rift with Iran and Venezuella is acting as a slow poison to devalue the dollar.

4. Severe job cuts with no plausible life line. Corporate giants like DHL sacking 4000 employees. Kodak, Chyrsler, Delta, Leman Brothers, Enron, Worldcom all once contributing to the massive economic engine have either collapsed or going that way. 8.4 million overall jobs losses!

5. I dont even want to go the the civil and social degradation.

6. Lack of sync between Us military cammand and white house, we all know the McCrystal fiasco. Lowest ever military recruitemets. The US is also considering drafts.

7. NATO countries don't want to support US in their on going wars. The French president Sarkozy went to the extent of saying that the NATO is only serving US interests and whether they even need NATO anymore since USSR.

8.The infrastructure losses struck by the natural disasters have still not been recovered.

9. High interest rates, combined with high inflation equates to an economic collapse, dollar collapse.

10. The EU already recognizes the US as a dying empire. Europeans Can't Be Bothered to Hate America - Newsweek

11. US$ 13 trillion national debt. the highest debt on any country. 2009 budet decifit was US$ 1.41 trillion!

12. Cost of ongoing wars on american coffers is $850 billion per year.

13. US gold reserves is $350 billion, as compared to that, their $ 1 quadrillion in the financial system. :lol::lol:

14. UN suggested in 2010 that a new reserve currency system must be immedietly created as the dollar is no more a stable crieteria store for value.

You still need more evidence bro? I dont want to bore our esteemed forum members. cheers mate!
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