International probe into Kashmir killings imperative now: UN rights chief

[Indrajit]

Son, we give two finger salute to India, to hindu fundos/terrorist/maggots that are ruling you lot, or for the matter, your position on kashmir. As for Modi, he is a punching bag for us, and being Pakistanis, its our past time hobby to drag him and his kind through dirt, it gives us satisfaction. And he being a hindu terrorist gives us more fun and joy.

Whos asking for your pathetic humour son? We are telling you to either put up or shutup.

I actually predicted on this forum some time ago that when Pakistan western flanks are secured from Indian sponsored terrorism, focus will shift on India. Behold, we are now witnessing this. This is just the beginning, this aint going to be stopping over kashmir only. Watch the space. Stable India is not in the national interests of Pakistan, specially our national security. Kashmir is in lockdown for more then a month. We have paralyzed your controlled territory and this is just the start. This day and age is all about building narrative before hammer hit the nail. Your non sense about terrorism in kashmir and equating their freedom struggle with it is now effectively countered by Pakistan. So whatever happen now and onwards, would be seen as a "freedom movement".

So do your randi rona among yourself and keep on patting each other on your backs. No one in Pakistan gives a f***.

Yawn...so much crap. You should do the putting up, all this crap talking seems to be getting into your brains to the point you believe the dung you put out. Your grandfathers generation did, your fathers generation did it and you are doing it and expect us to be impressed. Tough.

Humour is what you will get from me, the rant is not worth much else. You could "behold" anything you want, we could care less. 3 generations of beholding & still nowhere. We don't need to do anything, we have what we want. Time for you to put up....so much whining...boring...

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Hmm a correction, he is alleged or blamed for the Gujarat riots, now court of law had ever implicated him, so he is innocent until proven guilty, just like Mr. zakir rehman lakhvi , Mr. Hafiz Saeed and the likes.

Court of law never proved that OBL was a terrorist or he was involved in 9/11. The Muslims of Gujrat blame modi and that is sufficient.

Are you kidding, what relevance/difference does a president makes in a country like India or Pakistan ?? They are just rubber-stamps. I am talking about the real power corridors, Prime Minister.

Can you please let us know your true nationality first or shall I say the country of origin? Tom M or shall I call you Lallu Parsad?

Did you actually read about the man ? You are embarrassing yourself with your rants. If you dont have knowledge about certain matter, dont insist upon your preconceived notions. Go and read, and then come back.

If you want you can very well invite everyone that's up-to you, but as long as Pakistan interfere in any way in Kashmir, expect somewhat same or better response from India. You talk about Kashmir, India will surely talk about Azad Kashmir, GB, Baluchistan, now let's watch who's story sells best in the global arena. Because deep down both Pakistan and India are well aware about their actions and respective HR violations in Kashmir. So don't just claim that we are the best, our forces are professional, won't do anything wrong etc. Mark my words defense forces anywhere in the world had always committed atrocities while in civilian areas. Indian or Pakistani forces are never an exception.

Whatever Indian response it, it will meet the , mighty , long, upright, middle finger from Pakistan. Thats irrelevant. India has been selling world that Kashmir is a terrorism issue , This has now been debunked and a narrative is building against India. You can talk about Azad Kashmir no problem, that is why we are happy to let UN team roam freely wherever they wish inside Azad Kashmir, PROVIDED, the same access is given to UN team inside Indian occupied Kashmir. For the soverign lands of Pakistan if India wants to raise the stakes, then Pakistan is obliged to talk about Khalistan, Hyderabad Deccan, Gunagarh, Gordaspur, the red corridor, nagaland, bodoland , and who knows what else. Understand the difference between disputed and undisputed territory.

Modi is just a face projected to the world dude, policies are made elsewhere.

Agree, the word is RSS. You can say Al Qaeeda of Hinduism.

Kinetic Ops my foot. LOL

Just like Napoleon Bonaparte said "An army marches on its stomach."

Pakistan is not in a position to do anything against India at this point of time. It is not 1948 or 65 where both countries were almost equal in all respect except population. Time has changed a lot and the chunk of the world nations will certainly be along with India rather than Pakistan. You simply had lost the diplomatic war long back as well. :-(

Pakistan being a "perceived" weaker and smaller nation did a kinetic op called Kargil operation inside Indian controlled territory. What make you think, Pakistan wont and cant do the same again? Thats why I said, we are now building the narrative around India. The real terrorism is the Indian state sponsored terrorism. There was an article not long ago written by someone considered close to Pakistani establishment clearly mentioning that freedom struggle movement and their support both moral and "material" are lawful under the UN charter. Hope you got our clue by now.

 

[BijliKhala]

Sorry to correct you. There is nothing called "The Muslim World" Muslims don't have any separate world, it's just the world. Moreover if they ever had one, they wouldn't be killing each other as they are doing for a long time. :-(



Just because you don't know something called "dignity of labour" I'll just remind you that it is the main difference between India and Pakistan where Chai wala can become a P.M but you are destined to be ruled by multi-billionaires and generals till eternity, a common man can never achieve the position of PM in Pakistan, mark my words.

If there is an "Islamic bomb" then there is a "Muslim World"

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Yawn...so much crap. You should do the putting up, all this crap talking seems to be getting into your brains to the point you believe the dung you put out. Your grandfathers generation did, your fathers generation did it and you are doing it and expect us to be impressed. Tough.

Humour is what you will get from me, the rant is not worth much else. You could "behold" anything you want, we could care less. 3 generations of beholding & still nowhere. We don't need to do anything, we have what we want. Time for you to put up....so much whining...boring...

What a load of tosh. You sub humans are nuisance for us at max, and you think we are here to impress you? What kind of bullsh|t is fed in to your immature and under developed minds as a nation. Do you think we give a sh|t to you lot?

Very impressive considering you have already lost land size of Switzerland to Pakistan in 1948 war, which now world recognize as Azad (liberated) Kashmir. Then came the kargil spanking at the hands of Pakistan. What else you would qualify as putting up? As I said, we have already paralysed IOK as we speak for more then a month now. In return, you lot do your usual randi rona as part of your collective national behavior, and talk about human rights issue in Azad Kashmir, and when we ask you to put up, you lot go missing. Nation of drama queens from top to bottom.

 

[IceCold]

Sorry to correct you. There is nothing called "The Muslim World" Muslims don't have any separate world, it's just the world. Moreover if they ever had one, they wouldn't be killing each other as they are doing for a long time. :-(

You can hold on to "sorry to correct you" and maybe educate yourself a little why the term Muslim world is used and what it refers too Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world

 

[Viper0011.]

This gentleman is never getting a visa to India in his life..

I didn't realize that a "Visa to India" was a visa to heaven like you are trying to portray on here. Especially when all the Indians want an H1B visa from the US, or the labor visa for the UK or France or Canada......... .

Fake sense of superiority much?

 

[IceCold]

The world might need a reminder as per you, most will disagree which is why there is no traction for your case but the question being asked is why do you think China will humour you in this regard.

Why do I think China will humour us, well for starters the way India is pitching itself up against China, do you think Chinese dont know that. A decade ago China was not so aggressive against India because India wasnt pitching itself as a counter against China either but things have changed now not just with China but Russia too is annoyed and they have showed their annoyance lately with a lot of news leaking about possible military sale to Pakistan. Why do you think this has happened? Why do you think China threw a spanner in your NSG membership? Do you still wanna ask what China will humour us in this regard?

 

[Tom M]

You can hold on to "sorry to correct you" and maybe educate yourself a little why the term Muslim world is used and what it refers too Here:

Again a wiki page ??

Well the Ummah is quite evident, Saudi and Iran being the classic examples. LOL

I didn't realize that a "Visa to India" was a visa to heaven like you are trying to portray on here. Especially when all the Indians want an H1B visa from the US, or the labor visa for the UK or France or Canada......... .

Fake sense of superiority much?

Well the same applies to an American or Brit if they want to visit India. They need to carry a valid VISA. Not a case of superiority dude, but simple law.

If there is an "Islamic bomb" then there is a "Muslim World"

In your dreams, since most of the wannabe participants of the Ummah are fighting with each other for a long time now. It's just a fancy word, nothing more than that.

Court of law never proved that OBL was a terrorist or he was involved in 9/11. The Muslims of Gujrat blame modi and that is sufficient.

Exactly, but again OBL himself had claimed responsibilities for various terrorist acts in various video and audio recording released by Al-Qaeda. He was a fugitive, whereas Modi is not. Moreover there are Muslims in Gujarat who support Modi as well, so what do you say about them ??

Can you please let us know your true nationality first or shall I say the country of origin? Tom M or shall I call you Lallu Parsad?

Thomas Manacherry, Born to NRI Malayali parents who used to work in Leeds. I'm currently working as a consultant in a company in "Kista Science Tower". Sorry I can't give more details here.

Whatever Indian response it, it will meet the , mighty , long, upright, middle finger from Pakistan. Thats irrelevant. India has been selling world that Kashmir is a terrorism issue , This has now been debunked and a narrative is building against India. You can talk about Azad Kashmir no problem, that is why we are happy to let UN team roam freely wherever they wish inside Azad Kashmir, PROVIDED, the same access is given to UN team inside Indian occupied Kashmir. For the soverign lands of Pakistan if India wants to raise the stakes, then Pakistan is obliged to talk about Khalistan, Hyderabad Deccan, Gunagarh, Gordaspur, the red corridor, nagaland, bodoland , and who knows what else. Understand the difference between disputed and undisputed territory.

Well let India and Pakistan play their respective cards then, and we shall wait and see who will be the winner.

Agree, the word is RSS. You can say Al Qaeeda of Hinduism.

Oh, yeah ?? How many terrorist actions did RSS do (especially outside India) to be equated alongside Al-Qaeda or LeT ?? That said I'm neither a fan of RSS or Modi, just because I love beef a lot.

Pakistan being a "perceived" weaker and smaller nation did a kinetic op called Kargil operation inside Indian controlled territory. What make you think, Pakistan wont and cant do the same again?

And what was the objective ?? What did you really achieved after Kargil ??

A rabid dog can come and bite anyone, that doesn't mean that people should be afraid of all dogs. Hope you got my point.

There was an article not long ago written by someone considered close to Pakistani establishment clearly mentioning that freedom struggle movement and their support both moral and "material" are lawful under the UN charter. Hope you got our clue by now.

Well then take good care of your Baluchistan, while India manage Kashmir.

 

[Viper0011.]

Well the same applies to an American or Brit if they want to visit India. They need to carry a valid VISA. Not a case of superiority dude, but simple law.

That's not how you presented it dude. There were some other threads too where your fellow Indians are portraying "getting the Indian visa" to the Pakistanis and others, like it has the best thing in the planet. I don't like fake sense of superiority and you see that a lot on any forum you go to by Indians.

 

[Indrajit]

Why do I think China will humour us, well for starters the way India is pitching itself up against China, do you think Chinese dont know that. A decade ago China was not so aggressive against India because India wasnt pitching itself as a counter against China either but things have changed now not just with China but Russia too is annoyed and they have showed their annoyance lately with a lot of news leaking about possible military sale to Pakistan. Why do you think this has happened? Why do you think China threw a spanner in your NSG membership? Do you still wanna ask what China will humour us in this regard?

Good luck, talk to me when China introduces that resolution...

What a load of tosh. You sub humans are nuisance for us at max, and you think we are here to impress you? What kind of bullsh|t is fed in to your immature and under developed minds as a nation. Do you think we give a sh|t to you lot?

Very impressive considering you have already lost land size of Switzerland to Pakistan in 1948 war, which now world recognize as Azad (liberated) Kashmir. Then came the kargil spanking at the hands of Pakistan. What else you would qualify as putting up? As I said, we have already paralysed IOK as we speak for more then a month now. In return, you lot do your usual randi rona as part of your collective national behavior, and talk about human rights issue in Azad Kashmir, and when we ask you to put up, you lot go missing. Nation of drama queens from top to bottom.

Oooh, more trash talk... 1948, Kargil......anything more. Stand up comedian, eh?

 

[IceCold]

Good luck, talk to me when China introduces that resolution...

It all depends upon how Pakistan wants to play it. Frankly with Nawaz Sharif running, i dont have much hope for anything. My opinion is my own and that is what i said in my first post what Pakistan should be doing. Whether it does or not is entirely different.

 

[Tshering22]

poor UN ,they know how much they can do when dealing with big countries..

Nice lobbying. Alas, he would have egg on his face soon.

 

[IceCold]

Again a wiki page ??

Well the Ummah is quite evident, Saudi and Iran being the classic examples. LOL

Are you really that ignorant or pretending to be one? What difference does it make whether Saudi or Iran are classic examples of it or not, the discussion was about whether there is a Muslim world or not? Do you still want to correct me or rather educate yourself about an otherwise popular term used all over the world known as The Muslim world?

 

[Tom M]

Are you really that ignorant or pretending to be one? What difference does it make whether Saudi or Iran are classic examples of it or not, the discussion was about whether there is a Muslim world or not? Do you still want to correct me or rather educate yourself about an otherwise popular term used all over the world known as The Muslim world?

First of all I don't want to be part of this petty argument. But I would like to add few things.

There does exist a fancy word called " The Muslim world" just like "christendom" nothing more than that. I never disagreed that there is a word called Muslim world, but I'll again reiterate the Ummah is nothing more than a fancy.
National interests always prevail over religion, Europe and Middle east are the best examples. Else even after having same religion, culture, almost same language, why are they always hostile to each other, can you please enlighten ??

Now please don't be ignorant and pretend that Ummah is a reality when it is not and never will be, because politics always prevails over principle. So there is of-course a popular word "The Muslim world" and people use that occasionally, but actually there is no such world, because the ground reality says otherwise.

 

[IceCold]

First of all I don't want to be part of this petty argument. But I would like to add few things.

There does exist a fancy word called " The Muslim world" just like "christendom" nothing more than that. I never disagreed that there is a word called Muslim world, but I'll again reiterate the Ummah is nothing more than a fancy.
National interests always prevail over religion, Europe and Middle east are the best examples. Else even after having same religion, culture, almost same language, why are they always hostile to each other, can you please enlighten ??

Now please don't be ignorant and pretend that Ummah is a reality when it is not and never will be, because politics always prevails over principle. So there is of-course a popular word "The Muslim world" and people use that occasionally, but actually there is no such world, because the ground reality says otherwise.

Yes you disagreed when you said and i quote " Let me correct you there is no Muslim world but a world" this was you disagreeing over the existence of such a term. Now you can deny it as much as you want but a real man would accept and move on. Anyway now that we agree that such a term exists, there is no point in carrying this debate any further.

By the way you last part is absolute nonsense since debate was never about the role of Ummah or the ground realities but rather the term Muslim world which is generally used to describe Muslim parts of the world.
Again from Wiki:
In a modern geopolitical sense, the term usually refers collectively to Muslim-majority countries, states, districts, or towns.
You just read the Ummah part and came guns blazing. Like i said before educate yourself a little before trying to correct others. And there is no harm in accepting that you made a mistake.
Now relax. The topic is international probe in Kashmir killing.