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International probe into Kashmir killings imperative now: UN rights chief

Ok.. so you climbed down from 100000 to less than 50000 in 10 minutes... thats some concession.... Many human rights groups claim what gets them money... the more gory the claim ..more money they get.... and who is there to verify... No one...

:rofl: can you even read? when did I ever concede any number, I just supported the claim with INDIAN SOURCES from 2008, the number since then has obviously increased.

The reason they cant verify 100,000+ is because Indians are too scared to let them into Kashmir :lol::lol:

If the number is false then why cant human rights observers enter Kashmir and judge for themselves?
 
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:rofl: can you even read? when did I ever concede any number, I just supported the claim with INDIAN SOURCES from 2008, the number since then has obviously increased.

The reason they cant verify 100,000+ is because are too scared to Indians let them into Kashmir :lol::lol:

If the number is false then why cant human rights observers enter Kashmir and judge for themselves?
So according to you ..50000 Plus people were killed n last 8 years.... what a fantasy man...
 
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Pakistan's foreign policy and diplomatic efforts seem to be working fine.
Good job guys. Keep calm and carry on.
 
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Our position on UN involvement in J&K is well known, what part of it don't you get? As for barking, your guys have been doing a lot of it & they will get a chance to do in this UN session too but the point remains, we are not about to humour you. Period. Whether the hurt is where the sun shines or where the sun doesn't shine....

You should tell your chia walla to keep his gob shut, or put his money where his rear end is, as most of it these days is coming out of rear and it stinks. You cant accuse us of something and then run away when the time comes to prove. Who cares about your position, your stance, its not about it anyway.

Meanwhile, we will keep on providing, "moral and diplomatic" support to the Kashmirs.

Matlab ...Mirchi to lagi hai.. isis loiye gali galoch pe utar aye ho...


Mirchi Modi kay pachwarey main du. Shanti ajaey gee uss ke atma ko.
 
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I have already explained it in my post that it will get VETO and by the way does not require so many 1 will simply throw it out but my argument is entirely different which you fail to see. The resolution might get trashed like you said but in the process expose the so called champions. Like i said the world needs a reminder before their open their mouth next time to criticise others specially the muslim world, China and even Russia for that matter.


Sorry to correct you. There is nothing called "The Muslim World" Muslims don't have any separate world, it's just the world. Moreover if they ever had one, they wouldn't be killing each other as they are doing for a long time. :-(

Got exposed by Chai wala? You thing his utterance carry any weight apart from being a laughing stock? He in his bravado has given us all the ammunition that we needed. Now with UN is talking about the same, our position is , that we are happy to provide full access to UN to Azad Kashmir provided India does the same on its side. For you Indians you should take his as a good opportunity to vindicate your chai walla utterance about Azad Kashmir.


Just because you don't know something called "dignity of labour" I'll just remind you that it is the main difference between India and Pakistan where Chai wala can become a P.M but you are destined to be ruled by multi-billionaires and generals till eternity, a common man can never achieve the position of PM in Pakistan, mark my words. :p:
 
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what does india have 2 hide ? all the pakistanis insulting chai walla...he is doing a better job of promoting and developing india than our useless politicians. if un gave a request which could hurt pakistan then india would be sending a huge delegation 2 the un 2 enforce the request. our politicians are 2 busy milking pakistan 2 see the impact this can have on india
 
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You should tell your chia walla to keep his gob shut, or put his money where his rear end is, as most of it these days is coming out of rear and it stinks. You cant accuse us of something and then run away when the time comes to prove. Who cares about your position, your stance, its not about it anyway.

Meanwhile, we will keep on providing, "moral and diplomatic" support to the Kashmirs.

Talk to me about telling my PM anything after you tell your loony lot to shut theirs.......Btw, you can stick your position you know where too...

You can provide any support you want, we will deal with your support the way we see fit..
 
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UNITED NATIONS: The deteriorating situation in India-held Kashmir has now made it crucial to establish an independent, impartial and international mission to assess the situation, the UN human rights chief has said, while regretting India's lack of response to his request for access to its controlled part of the disputed state.

UN rights chief Zeid Raad al-Hussein told the Geneva-based Human Rights Council that he received a letter from the Government of Pakistan on Sept 9 formally inviting a team from his office to visit Azad Kashmir but only in tandem with a mission to the Indian side.

“I have yet to receive a formal letter from the government of India. I therefore request here and publicly, from the two governments, access that is unconditional to both sides of the Line of Control,” he said.

“Two months ago, I requested the agreement of the governments of India and Pakistan to invite teams from my office to visit both sides of the Line of Control: in other words, the India-administered Jammu and Kashmir and Pakistan-administered Kashmir,” Zeid said in remarks delivered on Tuesday at the opening session of HRC.

“We furthermore received conflicting narratives from the two sides as to the cause for the confrontations and the reported large numbers of people killed and wounded. I believe an independent, impartial and international mission is now needed crucially and that it should be given free and complete access to establish an objective assessment of the claims made by the two sides,” he said.

The top UN official also said that they continue receiving reports of Indian forces using force excessively against civilian population under its administration.

The Indian government has been coming under growing pressure over the level of casualties in the region during protests against Indian rule, which broke out after the death of a popular rebel leader on July 8 during a gunbattle with soldiers.

More than 70 civilians have been killed and thousands injured in the worst violence to hit the territory since 2010.

In spite of a lockdown, anti-India protesters have called for a march to the UN office in Srinagar. Tensions have been further heightened due to Eidul Azha, with heavy deployment of Indian troops across the valley even though there is a continuing ban on public assembly this year.

The opening statement of the UN high commissioner for human rights at the HRC focused on issues of access of the UN to troubled areas and the growing trend of an increasing number of countries to refuse to grant access to the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) or other human rights mechanisms to their countries or specific troubled regions.

Governments accuse the OHCHR of “interfering” in the internal affairs of sovereign states when violations of human rights are pointed out to them and his statements referring to these violations are termed “biased”, “irresponsible”, “misleading” or based on “false” premises, Zeid said in a hard-hitting statement.

Quoting the Vienna Declaration which states that “the promotion and protection of all human rights is a legitimate concern of the international community”, he argued that human rights is not exclusively a national issue.

Apart from India and Pakistan, the high commissioner referred to Syria, Venezuela, Turkey, Ethiopia, Gambia, Burundi, China, Nepal, the US (for refusing access to Guantanamo Bay), Israel, Iran, North Korea, among other countries for non-cooperation with UN human rights mechanisms.

“Human rights violations will not disappear if a government blocks access to international observers and then invests in a public relations campaign to offset any unwanted publicity. On the contrary, efforts to duck or refuse legitimate scrutiny raise an obvious question: what, precisely, are you hiding from us?” he said.


http://www.dawn.com/news/1283893/in...shmir-killings-imperative-now-un-rights-chief


Why don't we just send them to a nice rock festival in Ladakh? Will be worth their trip too.
 
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Sorry to correct you. There is nothing called "The Muslim World" Muslims don't have any separate world, it's just the world. Moreover if they ever had one, they wouldn't be killing each other as they are doing for a long time. :-(




Just because you don't know something called "dignity of labour" I'll just remind you that it is the main difference between India and Pakistan where Chai wala can become a P.M but you are destined to be ruled by multi-billionaires and generals till eternity, a common man can never achieve the position of PM in Pakistan, mark my words. :p:

That "Chia walla" got a side profession as well. Being a murderer, hindu terrorist, it all comes naturally to him. And yes only in India such individuals can reach power corridors.

For your bold part, google for a person named Gulam Ishaq Khan. Dont you think pdf is a good platform to debunk self created myths and non sense by Indians?

Talk to me about telling my PM anything after you tell your loony lot to shut theirs.......Btw, you can stick your position you know where too...

You can provide any support you want, we will deal with your support the way we see fit..


Listen sunshine, how many times I have to repeat myself here? It not about our or your position on Kashmir. Your chai walla accused us of human rights violation in Azad Kashmir, so you tell me what is the best to way to prove to the world that chai walla is correct? That is where UN office comes in handy. Your present your case to UN and we will do the same. Either do that or keep the gob shut about Pakistani side of Kashmir. you can stick your position on kashmir in your backside, no one give a flying fu**.

Bottom line is, Modi in his bravado has eaten more then he can chew.

At the end of the day, we are building a narrative around India which will be used when kinetics ops will be launched, just watch and wait. We dont expect any UN intervention neither we desire, it will be settle between Pakistan and India, one way or another.
 
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Listen sunshine, how many times I have to repeat myself here? It not about our or your position on Kashmir. Your chai walla accused us of human rights violation in Azad Kashmir, so you tell me what is the best to way to prove to the world that chai walla is correct? That is where UN office comes in handy. Your present your case to UN and we will do the same. Either do that or keep the gob shut about Pakistani side of Kashmir. you can stick your position on kashmir in your backside, no one give a flying fu**.

Bottom line is, Modi in his bravado has eaten more then he can chew.

At the end of the day, we are building a narrative around India which will be used when kinetics ops will be launched, just watch and wait. We dont expect any UN intervention neither we desire, it will be settle between Pakistan and India, one way or another.

Keep walking & you can stick your position where the sun don't shine. Nobody in India cares what Pakistanis think of Modi, he is the Indian PM and we would be very surprised if you showered him with affection. Modi needs no certificates from your lot. We are not about to keep our "gob" shut to humour you nor are we inclined to humour you in any other way, UN or otherwise.

As for you launching "kinetics" operations, don't make me laugh. You guys can launch nothing more than a fart, if you could, you wouldn't be doing as much whining. Seems like all of you are stand up comedians thinking that you can make us laugh with your act. That's pretty much how high you should set your bar...no higher. Who knows, you might get a snort from us for your efforts.
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The usual and expected Indian response.

This is the UNITED NATIONS blaming India for human rights violations. Shame on you.

What do you have to hide? Allow access to independent monitors.

Who gives a shit about UN?
Its inability was already proven when US invades Iraq,Russia seized Crimea and also in Syria.
 
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That "Chia walla" got a side profession as well. Being a murderer, hindu terrorist, it all comes naturally to him. And yes only in India such individuals can reach power corridors.

Hmm a correction, he is alleged or blamed for the Gujarat riots, now court of law had ever implicated him, so he is innocent until proven guilty, just like Mr. zakir rehman lakhvi , Mr. Hafiz Saeed and the likes. :p:

For your bold part, google for a person named Gulam Ishaq Khan. Dont you think pdf is a good platform to debunk self created myths and non sense by Indians?

Are you kidding, what relevance/difference does a president makes in a country like India or Pakistan ?? They are just rubber-stamps. I am talking about the real power corridors, Prime Minister.

Listen sunshine, how many times I have to repeat myself here? It not about our or your position on Kashmir. Your chai walla accused us of human rights violation in Azad Kashmir, so you tell me what is the best to way to prove to the world that chai walla is correct? That is where UN office comes in handy. Your present your case to UN and we will do the same. Either do that or keep the gob shut about Pakistani side of Kashmir. you can stick your position on kashmir in your backside, no one give a flying fu**.

If you want you can very well invite everyone that's up-to you, but as long as Pakistan interfere in any way in Kashmir, expect somewhat same or better response from India. You talk about Kashmir, India will surely talk about Azad Kashmir, GB, Baluchistan, now let's watch who's story sells best in the global arena. Because deep down both Pakistan and India are well aware about their actions and respective HR violations in Kashmir. So don't just claim that we are the best, our forces are professional, won't do anything wrong etc. Mark my words defense forces anywhere in the world had always committed atrocities while in civilian areas. Indian or Pakistani forces are never an exception. :)

Bottom line is, Modi in his bravado has eaten more then he can chew.

Modi is just a face projected to the world dude, policies are made elsewhere. :)

At the end of the day, we are building a narrative around India which will be used when kinetics ops will be launched, just watch and wait. We dont expect any UN intervention neither we desire, it will be settle between Pakistan and India, one way or another.

Kinetic Ops my foot. LOL :p:

Just like Napoleon Bonaparte said "An army marches on its stomach."

Pakistan is not in a position to do anything against India at this point of time. It is not 1948 or 65 where both countries were almost equal in all respect except population. Time has changed a lot and the chunk of the world nations will certainly be along with India rather than Pakistan. You simply had lost the diplomatic war long back as well. :-(

Who gives a shit about UN?
Its inability was already proven when US invades Iraq,Russia seized Crimea and also in Syria.


They couldn't even do anything with Sri-Lank. Let alone India. :p:
 
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Keep walking & you can stick your position where the sun don't shine. Nobody in India cares what Pakistanis think of Modi, he is the Indian PM and we would be very surprised if you showered him with affection. Modi needs no certificates from your lot. We are not about to keep our "gob" shut to humour you nor are we inclined to humour you in any other way, UN or otherwise.

As for you launching "kinetics" operations, don't make me laugh. You guys can launch nothing more than a fart, if you could, you wouldn't be doing as much whining. Seems like all of you are stand up comedians thinking that you can make us laugh with your act. That's pretty much how high you should set your bar...no higher. Who knows, you might get a snort from us for your efforts.
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Son, we give two finger salute to India, to hindu fundos/terrorist/maggots that are ruling you lot, or for the matter, your position on kashmir. As for Modi, he is a punching bag for us, and being Pakistanis, its our past time hobby to drag him and his kind through dirt, it gives us satisfaction. And he being a hindu terrorist gives us more fun and joy.

Whos asking for your pathetic humour son? We are telling you to either put up or shutup.

I actually predicted on this forum some time ago that when Pakistan western flanks are secured from Indian sponsored terrorism, focus will shift on India. Behold, we are now witnessing this. This is just the beginning, this aint going to be stopping over kashmir only. Watch the space. Stable India is not in the national interests of Pakistan, specially our national security. Kashmir is in lockdown for more then a month. We have paralyzed your controlled territory and this is just the start. This day and age is all about building narrative before hammer hit the nail. Your non sense about terrorism in kashmir and equating their freedom struggle with it is now effectively countered by Pakistan. So whatever happen now and onwards, would be seen as a "freedom movement".

So do your randi rona among yourself and keep on patting each other on your backs. No one in Pakistan gives a f***.
 
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A resolution in the UN security council should be moved with the help of China to put sanctions over gross human rights violations, torture, rape, mass murder done by India.
The US is going to veto that for sure but let the world see the faces of these so called biggest and longest so called democracies of the world.


Sorry, not happening in this lifetime.

Forget about The US, even China won't even think about placing sanctions on India.

Now let's get into UN SECURITY COUNCIL........... on April 21, 1948 UN declared entire Kashmir belongs to India and told Pakistan to withdraw all tribesmen and nationals who entered the P O K.
 
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