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[kobiraaz]

Bengali Hindus didn't want to stay in proposed United Bengal. They opted for India. Neither Congress nor Muslim League was responsible for what they decided. Surely you would respect their decision. Here read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Bengal_(1947)

Sorry but West Bengal's ours

It is true. One of them famously said " If East Bengal comes to India, Even then We want a separate Bengal"

You see Muslims formed Government in Bengal. If You consider Bengal as a single unit It goes to Pakistan. Bengali Muslims wanted that. But Then It works against India Congress and West Pakistan's interest. So they made a deal without informing the Bengali Muslims.

Indian position is justified. Naturally they will want to keep more lands. But how can you justify Pakistan's position and then claim we are brothers. We were always considered the little brother not the equal one.

Bengali Hindus didn't want to stay in proposed United Bengal. They opted for India. Neither Congress nor Muslim League was responsible for what they decided. Surely you would respect their decision. Here read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Bengal_(1947)

Sorry but West Bengal's ours

Anyway Where did you get that All the Bengali Hindus wanted it to be divided? It is the Congress and they failed to win in Bengal.

There are Bengali Hindus who wanted United Bengal. And Accompanied Suhrawardi in his quest to keep Bengal United at the eleventh hour

 

[Sher-e-India]

It is true. One of them famously said " If East Bengal comes to India, Even then We want a separate Bengal"

You see Muslims formed Government in Bengal. If You consider Bengal as a single unit It goes to Pakistan. Bengali Muslims wanted that. But Then It works against India Congress and West Pakistan's interest. So they made a deal without informing the Bengali Muslims.

Indian position is justified. Naturally they will want to keep more lands. But how can you justify Pakistan's position and then claim we are brothers. We were always considered the little brother not the equal one.

United Bengal would have been a recipe for disaster. You may dismiss me now but believe me its a blessing in disguise that the two parts got separated. Bengal's not exactly a secular paradise. Bengali Muslims do take their religion quite seriously, you can't muzzle them. Heck even the Murshidabad Muslims of WB support Pakistan while BD Hindus support us. Not that we are complaining

 

[kobiraaz]

United Bengal would have been a recipe for disaster. You may dismiss me now but believe me its a blessing in disguise that the two parts got separated. Bengal's not exactly a secular paradise. Bengali Muslims do take their religion quite seriously, you can't muzzle them. Heck even the Murshidabad Muslims of WB support Pakistan while BD Hindus support us. Not that we are complaining

Nah Bangladeshi leaders always championed Secularism. Suhrawardi in early stage followed Chittaranjan dash the number one bengal politician.. If Chittaranjan were alive we would get a secular United bengal. Suhrawardi and Subhash Chandra Bose were his followers and quite capable of leading Bengal without any Bias. However United Bengal under Pakistan would have been a disaster for Bengali Hindus, I agree with @Rain Man.

 

[Kambojaric]

Listen Bro, You don't know anything about our History. Majority of Pakistan don't. Better if you keep quiet. Or If you are really interested, Answer me - Why a prosperous Kolkata was presented to India by Muslim league but Kashmir is still contested? Come with an answer, I am waiting.

This is shameless lying. Jinnah tried his utmost to get Calcutta but failed because Mountbatten was best friends with Nehru and actively engaged in tampering the boundary award in favour of India.

The central theme ever present in Beaumont's historic paperwork is that Mountbatten not only bent the rules when it came to partition - he also bent the border in India's favour.

The documents repeatedly allege that Mountbatten put pressure on Radcliffe to alter the boundary in India's favour.

On one occasion, he complains that he was "deftly excluded" from a lunch between the pair in which a substantial tract of Muslim-majority territory - which should have gone to Pakistan - was instead ceded to India.

Beaumont's papers say that the incident brought "grave discredit on both men".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6926464.stm

International historians point out Jinnahs attempt at gaining Calcutta (see below).

Stanley Wolpert, Shameful Flight, page 102

He (Jinnah) insisted that Calcutta must be part of Pakistan, arguing that "Pakistan without Calcutta would be like asking a man to live without his heart". Congress was equally determined to retain control of Calcutta, which over a century had been British India's capital.

I dont know what kind of revisionist nationalist brainwashing goes on in Bangladeshi schools. The above Jinnah quote is well known, and quoted even by Indian scholars. With regards to why Pakistan did not bring up the issue of Kolkata post independence, firstly it and the district did not have a Muslim majority. The boundary award gave the district to India. Further far greater injustice was served to Pakistan when Muslim majority districts adjacent to Pakistan's border in Punjab were handed over to India.

Stanley Wolpert, India and Pakistan: Continued Conflict Or Cooperation?, page 16

Nor could Radcliffe resist pressure from Mountbatten, who had accepted Nehru's flattering invitiation to serve as independent India's first governor-general, and so acceeded to Nehru's passiionate insistence that the Gurdaspur District of Punjab be awarded to India, despite its Muslim majority, since without it, India would have been deprived of direct road access to the Vale of Kashmir.

The reason why Pakistan does not bring these districts up anymore however is that under the 'Indian Independence Act 1947' they were legally albeit unjustly handed over to India. Kashmir is different however because Pakistan claims the Maharajahs accession to India was illegal and/or done under duress. We could otherwise also claim whole districts of Indian Punjab today, forget Kolkatta which had a Hindu majority, but Kashmir's case is different because post the Pakistani claim of duress the UN made it a disputed territory. Such was not the case with Gurdaspur or Kolkatta.

 

[kobiraaz]

This is shameless lying. Jinnah tried his utmost to get Calcutta but failed because Mountbatten was best friends with Nehru and actively engaged in tampering the boundary award in favour of India.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6926464.stm

International historians point out Jinnahs attempt at gaining Calcutta (see below).

Stanley Wolpert, Shameful Flight, page 102



I dont know what kind of revisionist nationalist brainwashing goes on in Bangladeshi schools. The above Jinnah quote is well known, and quoted even by Indian scholars. With regards to why Pakistan did not bring up the issue of Kolkata post independence, firstly it and the district did not have a Muslim majority. The boundary award gave the district to India. Further far greater injustice was served to Pakistan when Muslim majority districts adjacent to Pakistan's border in Punjab were handed over to India.

Stanley Wolpert, India and Pakistan: Continued Conflict Or Cooperation?, page 16



The reason why Pakistan does not bring these districts up anymore however is that under the 'Indian Independence Act 1947' they were legally albeit unjustly handed over to India. Kashmir is different however because Pakistan claims the Maharajahs accession to India was illegal and/or done under duress. We could otherwise also claim whole districts of Indian Punjab today, forget Kolkatta which had a Hindu majority, but Kashmir's case is different because post the Pakistani claim of duress the UN made it a disputed territory. Such was not the case with Gurdaspur or Kolkatta.

Jinnah was visionary and I wasn't referring to Jinnah. Jinnah liked Suhrawardi a lot, He was grateful to Suhrawardi for the famous win that Suhrawardi delivered even approved Suhrawardi's proposal of a United Independent Bangla. A single quote from Jinnah doesn't mean anythything.

It was the other Muslimleague leaders who tried to prevent Suhrawardi's rise. After the Win of 1946 Suhrawardi was set to inherit Muslim league leadership from Jinnah after his retirement or death.

Without Kolkata his political Base Suhrawardi was nothing. So Dhaka was declared the capital of East Pakistan long before Partition indirectly lifting claim over Kolkata. It was a conspiracy and Jinnah wasn't part of it.

I can't tell the name of leaders responsible. As I have no idea of Muslim league Hierarchy. But Jinnah wasn't a dictator and His speech wasn't everything. A lot of Muslim league leaders were involved in sidelining Suhrawardi. Mujib wouldn't write it in his book if it didn't happen..And He wrote it in 1960s

 

[Skies]

My goodness you are fighting with me because a city didn't go to East Pakistan. You Bangladeshis are absolutely backstabbers ungrateful. I will make sure to never interact with you people and not to consider you brothers because you people aren't. Be happy with your ethnic country. I hope ties with Bangladesh are completely severed by Pakistan. You only wish harm for us and think only about yourselves. I am disgusted. Sorry for wasting your time

This is wrong. Bangladeshis are never backstabbers and ungrateful. Bangladeshis reciprocate equally when the matter is favor and gratefulness.

But I think the mistakes by the Pakistani leaders, misunderstanding, lack of knowledge and empathy among us, exploitation by India, India inclined evil awami league and ethnic complexity of the Bangalis made the separation eventual.

 

[dray]

Nah Bangladeshi leaders always championed Secularism. Suhrawardi in early stage followed Chittaranjan dash the number one bengal politician.. If Chittaranjan were alive we would get a secular United bengal. Suhrawardi and Subhash Chandra Bose were his followers and quite capable of leading Bengal without any Bias. However United Bengal under Pakistan would have been a disaster for Bengali Hindus, I agree with @Rain Man.

Of all the reasons to divide people and create a new country, 'language' is the second most worst; 'religion' being the worst. If Chittaranjan Das and Subhash Chandra Bose were alive and had their way over the political opportunists using religion as a potent political tool to manipulate people for their own Game-of-Thrones; we would have got a 'Secular United India'.

 

[Nilgiri]

You gone completely paranoid. I suggest medical checkup. West Bengalis didn't want to be part of Bengal province of Pakistan. They voted for Partition of Bengal encouraged by INC and Hindu Maha Sabha under Syama Parsaad Mukerjee. Why are you then lying and blaming Pakistan for it? Bengali Muslims were 52% in Bengal during British rule, so East Pakistan got more land than they deserved. You even got Khulne, a Hindu majority district.

You are a Bengali nationalist I guess. Your allegiance was never towards Pakistan as a country, your allegiance was always towards your own province. Which is why you Awami people slaughtered 400 Bihari and Bengalis in Chittagong riots for not supporting secession, along with your Bengali Hindus. You attacked your own Muslim brothers and sisters defying Islam. You sided with Pagan Hindus who didn't want East Pakistan to be in Pakistan anyway. Your Bengali culture was more dear to you than Islam and country. Which culminated in the civil war and your eventual siding with the Indians to fight against your own country.

Lanat ho tujh pe. You people are a threat to Islam we are glad to have separated from you. I loved Bangladesh as brother country but today my views are changed. You are our enemy country like India and I won't differentiate between you and Indians

Welcome to my situation. I also had strong support for BD before joining this forum and interacting with these online bongo clowns. These BD nationalists are not only hypocrites and traitors but extreme ingrates too. They can diss and disparage and call for break up for India today...all the while staunchy expecting all Indians to support their version of 1971 events...and that India played a tiny minor role and that they would have "beaten" Pakistan (with their sticks and stones) anyway. Mir Zafar complex bhai.

But I would advise you not to base your entire opinion of BD on them ( they are found in large prevalence in defence forums naturally).

They called me psychopath because I questioned their version of things when their nature became clear to me. Read this entire thread for an example:

https://defence.pk/threads/blood-telegram-a-fact-about-innocent-biharis.447780/

Just watch from where you are and see how we deal with these people over your lifetime....and remember that they deserve every bit of it should your heart start to come in the way.

Oh and dont bother with facts, they will have some obscure skewed version of events always that their flood damaged brains will go into parrot mode about. Just stick to the undisputed clear evidence of why they are failures in every way that matters.

 

[kobiraaz]

Of all the reasons to divide people and create a new country, 'language' is the second most worst; 'religion' being the worst. If Chittaranjan Das and Subhash Chandra Bose were alive and had their way over the political opportunists using religion as a potent political tool to manipulate people for their own Game-of-Thrones; we would have got a 'Secular United India'.

I don't understand your hatred against Suhrawardi. Clearly It is your ignorance and communal hatred. Suhrawardi formed Awamileague that saved millions of your hindu brethren of East Pakistan.

feeling your lack of love for Bengali... Even your Vande Mataram was written for Bengalis Only not for Indians.

India not only hijacked the names of Bangkim, Tagore and Now have started to claim that their loyalty was to India instead of Bengal. That is funny.

 

[dray]

I don't understand your hatred against Suhrawardi. Clearly It is your ignorance and communal hatred. Suhrawardi formed Awamileague that saved millions of your hindu brethren of East Pakistan.

feeling your lack of love for Bengali... Even your Vande Mataram was written for Bengalis Only not for Indians.

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India not only hijacked the names of Bangkim, Tagore and Now have started to claim that their loyalty was to India instead of Bengal. That is funny.

Suhrawarthy started the bloodbath, that too sitting on a constitutional post, am I supposed to love him?

And all the nationalists and freedom fighters of Bengal fought for freedom of india, not Bengal only. And only the Muslim League supporters were fighting for a separate Muslim homeland. Subhash Chandra Bose gave us the slogan 'Jai Hind', Rabindranath wrote our national anthem, 'Vande mataram' was coined by Aurobindo Ghose to bind all of India for the common goal of freedom, Bankim Chandra wrote our national song, Surya Sen waved our tricolour flag, none were regionalists, they had India in their hearts and minds. The whole idea of Indian nationalism against the British started from Bengal by these people, they wanted an united India, not only united Bengal.

 

[kobiraaz]

Suhrawarthy started the bloodbath, that too sitting on a constitutional post, am I supposed to love him?

And all the nationalists and freedom fighters of Bengal fought for freedom of india, not Bengal only. And only the Muslim League supporters were fighting for a separate Muslim homeland. Subhash Chandra Bose gave us the slogan 'Jai Hind', Rabindranath wrote our national anthem, 'Vande mataram' was coined by Aurobindo Ghose to bind all of India for the common goal of freedom, Bankim Chandra wrote our national song, Surya Sen waved our tricolour flag, none were regionalists, they had India in their hearts and minds. The whole idea of Indian nationalism against the British started from Bengal by these people, they wanted an united India, not only united Bengal.

বঙ্গীয় মুসলিম লীগ ও বঙ্গীয় কংগ্রেস নেতৃবৃন্দ ঐক্যবদ্ধভাবে স্বাধীন অখণ্ড বঙ্গ-আন্দোলন প্রয়াসে লিপ্ত থাকাকালীন অবাঙ্গালী হিন্দু নেতা আচার্য কৃপালনী, পণ্ডিত জওয়াহের লাল নেহরু, পুরুষোত্তম দাস ট্যান্ডন, সরদার বল্লভ ভাই প্যাটেল, চরম সাম্প্রদায়িক হিন্দু মহাসভা নেতা বঙ্গসন্তান শ্রী
শ্যামা প্রসাদ মূখার্জী সৃষ্ট বঙ্গ-ভঙ্গ দাবীকে সর্বভারতীয় প্রবল হিন্দু দাবীতে পরিণত করিয়াছিলেন। পরিহাস ও পরিতাপের বিষয়, যে হিন্দু সম্প্রদায় ১৯০৫ সালে বঙ্গ-ভঙ্গ রদ করার উদ্দেশ্যে ভারতে ও ভারতের বাহিরে এক অপ্রতিরোধ্য আন্দোলন করিয়া সম্রাট পঞ্চম জর্জকে ১৯১১ সালে বঙ্গ-ভঙ্গ রদ ঘোষণা করিতে বাধ্য করাইয়াছিল, সেই হিন্দু সন্তানরাই ১৯৪৭
সালে বঙ্গ-ভঙ্গ দাবীতে সমগ্র হিন্দু ভারতকেই প্রকম্পিত করিয়া তুলিল। তাহাদের অভীষ্ট সিদ্ধ হইল, ইংরেজ রাজের কুটিল সহায়তায় বঙ্গ-ভঙ্গ হইয়া গেল। বঙ্গীয় হিন্দু-মুসলিম নেতারা বাঙ্গালী জাতিকে সুসংঘবদ্ধ করার নিমিত্ত হিন্দু-
মুসলিম সমস্যাকে বাস্তব দৃষ্টিতে মোকাবিলা করিতে স্বতঃই প্রয়াস পাইতেছিলেন। দূরদর্শী বিচক্ষণ বাঙ্গালী রাজনীতিজ্ঞ দেশবন্ধু চিত্তরঞ্জন দাস ২৩শে এপ্রিল (১৯২৪) বেঙ্গল প্যাকট করেন। কিন্তু অবস্থা বৈগুণ্যে বিভ্রান্ত হইয়া তদীয় অনুগামী সুভাষ চন্দ্র বসু নিজ সভাপতিত্বে অনুষ্ঠিত
কৃষ্ণনগর কনফারেন্সে (১৯২৯) বেঙ্গল প্যাকট বা বঙ্গ চুক্তি বাতিল ঘোষণা করেন। কিন্তু যে উদ্দেশ্যে নেতাজী এই ভূমিকা গ্রহণ করিয়াছিলেন, তাহা সফল হইল না- ত্রিপরী কংগ্রেস সম্মেলনে দ্বিতীয়বারের জন্য কায়েমী স্বার্থের তীব্র বিরোধিতা সত্ত্বেও তিনি নিখিল ভারত কংগ্রেস সভাপতি নির্বাচিত হইলেন বটে, তবে অবাঙ্গালী উর্ধ্বতন
কংগ্রেস নেতৃবৃন্দের কারসাজিতে অচিরেই পদত্যাগ করিতে বাধ্য হইলেন।

স্পষ্ট হইয়া গেল যে, অবাঙ্গালীরা কখনই নেতৃত্বকে বরদাশত করিতে রাজী ছিল না। নেতাজী সুভাষ
চন্দ্র বসু স্বীয় ভ্রম উপলব্দি করিলেন ও তাঁহার রাজনৈতিক গুরু দেশবন্ধু চিত্তরঞ্জন দাসের পদাঙ্ক অনুসরণ করিয়া স্থানীয় সমঝোতার মাধ্যমে কলিকাতা মুসলিম লীগ নেতা আবদুর
রহমান সিদ্দীকিকে কলিকাতা করপোরেশনের মেয়র মনোনীতও নির্বাচিত করিলেন।

এই বারও বাঙ্গালী জাতির সঙ্কট
মুহূর্তে দেশবন্ধু চিত্তরঞ্জন দাস ও নেতাজী সুভাস চন্দ্র বসুর পদাঙ্ক অনুসরণ করিয়া বঙ্গীয় কংগ্রেস নেতা সুরেন্দ্র মোহন ষোষ, কিরণ শঙ্কর রায় ও শরৎ চন্দ্র বসু এবং মুসলিম লীগ নেতা হোসেন শহীত সোহরাওয়ার্দী ও আবুল হাশিম মিলিতভাবে
হিন্দু মুসলমানের স্বাধীন ও সার্বভৌম বঙ্গদেশ প্রতিষ্ঠার প্রয়াসে আত্মনিয়োগ করিলেন


Btw I am 100% sure you belong to Shyama Prasad Group and You voted For BJP last time.

Suhrawarthy started the bloodbath, that too sitting on a constitutional post, am I supposed to love him?

And all the nationalists and freedom fighters of Bengal fought for freedom of india, not Bengal only. And only the Muslim League supporters were fighting for a separate Muslim homeland. Subhash Chandra Bose gave us the slogan 'Jai Hind', Rabindranath wrote our national anthem, 'Vande mataram' was coined by Aurobindo Ghose to bind all of India for the common goal of freedom, Bankim Chandra wrote our national song, Surya Sen waved our tricolour flag, none were regionalists, they had India in their hearts and minds. The whole idea of Indian nationalism against the British started from Bengal by these people, they wanted an united India, not only united Bengal.

Also Give me a link or Screen Shot of your claim That Suhrawardi started the bloodbaths. Teach me a bit of history instead of blind claiming

 

[dray]

বঙ্গীয় মুসলিম লীগ ও বঙ্গীয় কংগ্রেস নেতৃবৃন্দ ঐক্যবদ্ধভাবে স্বাধীন অখণ্ড বঙ্গ-আন্দোলন প্রয়াসে লিপ্ত থাকাকালীন অবাঙ্গালী হিন্দু নেতা আচার্য কৃপালনী, পণ্ডিত জওয়াহের লাল নেহরু, পুরুষোত্তম দাস ট্যান্ডন, সরদার বল্লভ ভাই প্যাটেল, চরম সাম্প্রদায়িক হিন্দু মহাসভা নেতা বঙ্গসন্তান শ্রী
শ্যামা প্রসাদ মূখার্জী সৃষ্ট বঙ্গ-ভঙ্গ দাবীকে সর্বভারতীয় প্রবল হিন্দু দাবীতে পরিণত করিয়াছিলেন। পরিহাস ও পরিতাপের বিষয়, যে হিন্দু সম্প্রদায় ১৯০৫ সালে বঙ্গ-ভঙ্গ রদ করার উদ্দেশ্যে ভারতে ও ভারতের বাহিরে এক অপ্রতিরোধ্য আন্দোলন করিয়া সম্রাট পঞ্চম জর্জকে ১৯১১ সালে বঙ্গ-ভঙ্গ রদ ঘোষণা করিতে বাধ্য করাইয়াছিল, সেই হিন্দু সন্তানরাই ১৯৪৭
সালে বঙ্গ-ভঙ্গ দাবীতে সমগ্র হিন্দু ভারতকেই প্রকম্পিত করিয়া তুলিল। তাহাদের অভীষ্ট সিদ্ধ হইল, ইংরেজ রাজের কুটিল সহায়তায় বঙ্গ-ভঙ্গ হইয়া গেল। বঙ্গীয় হিন্দু-মুসলিম নেতারা বাঙ্গালী জাতিকে সুসংঘবদ্ধ করার নিমিত্ত হিন্দু-
মুসলিম সমস্যাকে বাস্তব দৃষ্টিতে মোকাবিলা করিতে স্বতঃই প্রয়াস পাইতেছিলেন। দূরদর্শী বিচক্ষণ বাঙ্গালী রাজনীতিজ্ঞ দেশবন্ধু চিত্তরঞ্জন দাস ২৩শে এপ্রিল (১৯২৪) বেঙ্গল প্যাকট করেন। কিন্তু অবস্থা বৈগুণ্যে বিভ্রান্ত হইয়া তদীয় অনুগামী সুভাষ চন্দ্র বসু নিজ সভাপতিত্বে অনুষ্ঠিত
কৃষ্ণনগর কনফারেন্সে (১৯২৯) বেঙ্গল প্যাকট বা বঙ্গ চুক্তি বাতিল ঘোষণা করেন। কিন্তু যে উদ্দেশ্যে নেতাজী এই ভূমিকা গ্রহণ করিয়াছিলেন, তাহা সফল হইল না- ত্রিপরী কংগ্রেস সম্মেলনে দ্বিতীয়বারের জন্য কায়েমী স্বার্থের তীব্র বিরোধিতা সত্ত্বেও তিনি নিখিল ভারত কংগ্রেস সভাপতি নির্বাচিত হইলেন বটে, তবে অবাঙ্গালী উর্ধ্বতন
কংগ্রেস নেতৃবৃন্দের কারসাজিতে অচিরেই পদত্যাগ করিতে বাধ্য হইলেন।

স্পষ্ট হইয়া গেল যে, অবাঙ্গালীরা কখনই নেতৃত্বকে বরদাশত করিতে রাজী ছিল না। নেতাজী সুভাষ
চন্দ্র বসু স্বীয় ভ্রম উপলব্দি করিলেন ও তাঁহার রাজনৈতিক গুরু দেশবন্ধু চিত্তরঞ্জন দাসের পদাঙ্ক অনুসরণ করিয়া স্থানীয় সমঝোতার মাধ্যমে কলিকাতা মুসলিম লীগ নেতা আবদুর
রহমান সিদ্দীকিকে কলিকাতা করপোরেশনের মেয়র মনোনীতও নির্বাচিত করিলেন।

এই বারও বাঙ্গালী জাতির সঙ্কট
মুহূর্তে দেশবন্ধু চিত্তরঞ্জন দাস ও নেতাজী সুভাস চন্দ্র বসুর পদাঙ্ক অনুসরণ করিয়া বঙ্গীয় কংগ্রেস নেতা সুরেন্দ্র মোহন ষোষ, কিরণ শঙ্কর রায় ও শরৎ চন্দ্র বসু এবং মুসলিম লীগ নেতা হোসেন শহীত সোহরাওয়ার্দী ও আবুল হাশিম মিলিতভাবে
হিন্দু মুসলমানের স্বাধীন ও সার্বভৌম বঙ্গদেশ প্রতিষ্ঠার প্রয়াসে আত্মনিয়োগ করিলেন


Btw I am 100% sure you belong to Shyama Prasad Group and You voted For BJP last time.



Also Give me a link or Screen Shot of your claim That Suhrawardi started the bloodbaths. Teach me a bit of history instead of blind claiming

Was there any significant movement by us to create a separate 'Bengali nation'? Were we fighting against India for freedom of Bengal, or were we fighting against British for freedom of India? In 1905 we protested against partition of Bengal as we saw it as a British conspiracy to divide and rule, then Khilafat movement happened and Muslim League was born, were we a part of the Muslim League movement to divide India on religious lines? Was there any reason for us to be a part of Muslim League's agenda? What are you talking about? Suhrawarthy did float the idea of Bengal as a separate country, and a few did consider it for a brief period of time, but the idea never got mass support, did it? Had it happened, it would have been a disaster for all the non-Muslims Bengalis and other Indians of that region.

And you cannot wash off the blood from Suhrawarthy's hands, he was the sitting PM of Bengal province at that time, a Muslim League leader demanding a separate Muslim homeland vigorously, and roaming around giving extremely provocative speeches to break the country on religious lines, Calcutta Riots was his creation, he set the precedence of violence and bloodbath during the partition. No amount of whitewashing can hide it.

 

[kobiraaz]

Was there any significant movement by us to create a separate 'Bengali nation'? Were we fighting against India for freedom of Bengal, or were we fighting against British for freedom of India? In 1905 we protested against partition of Bengal as we saw it as a British conspiracy to divide and rule, then Khilafat movement happened and Muslim League was born, were we a part of the Muslim League movement to divide India on religious lines? Was there any reason for us to be a part of Muslim League's agenda? What are you talking about? Suhrawarthy did float the idea of Bengal as a separate country, and a few did consider it for a brief period of time, but the idea never got mass support, did it? Had it happened, it would have been a disaster for all the non-Muslims Bengalis and other Indians of that region.

And you cannot wash off the blood from Suhrawarthy's hands, he was the sitting PM of Bengal province at that time, a Muslim League leader demanding a separate Muslim homeland vigorously, and roaming around giving extremely provocative speeches to break the country on religious lines, Calcutta Riots was his creation, he set the precedence of violence and bloodbath during the partition. No amount of whitewashing can hide it.

A simple Question. Shyama Prasad and His ideology ever been voted into power in Indian Bengal?

Who is respected more?… Brother of Netaji Sharat Chandra Bose who wanted an independent Bengal or Shyama Prasad?

I can bet all my money on it..If There was a vote in West Bengal between Sharat and Shyama in 1947. Sharat would have defeated Shyama by large margin.

 

[dray]

A simple Question. Shyama Prasad and His ideology ever been voted into power in Indian Bengal?

Who is respected more?… Brother of Netaji Sharat Chandra Bose who wanted an independent Bengal or Shyama Prasad?

I can bet all my money on it..If There was a vote in West Bengal between Sharat and Shyama in 1947. Sharat would have defeated Shyama by large margin.

??? Shyama Prasad Mukherjee's organization was not a political party, and Sarat Chandra Bose was not a separatist!!!

 

[kobiraaz]

??? Shyama Prasad Mukherjee's organization was not a political party, and Sarat Chandra Bose was not a separatist!!!

How can he be not separatist? What is the differences between Kabiraaz's independent Bengal and Sarat Chandra Bose's independent Bengal ? Anyway I meant Shyama Prasad's ideology which is I guess at present Championed by BJP right now. And they won't come to power in Bengal ever.