Intelligence Report: "My Stand is with Pakistan"

[Xestan]

Shia militias, whenever they existed, have never gone to war with the State of Pakistan. Even after their organisations were disbanded and militants put to death. But on the other hand, Sunni militias eventually went to war with out state and this was the longest war we fought, and still continue to fight in some zones.

 

[SIPRA]

Intelligence shared by the OP is very encouraging, in these difficult times.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Problem is not with Sunni but with Shias who are more loyal to Iran because their Aytullah is there and they can wage war against Pakistan
By the way how many percent of Shias is Pakistan?

they are a lot form the basis odof pakistan
which you cant wish away.

and if your claim was true about shia re loualty then we would've had a Syria and iraq x 200%

 

[Maarkhoor]

they are a lot form the basis odof pakistan
which you cant wish away.

and if your claim was true about shia re loualty then we would've had a Syria and iraq x 200%

We have special "Taryaaq" for this poison.....Don't worry we will not allow Iran to put Pakistan in Syria like situation.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Problem is not with Sunni but with Shias who are more loyal to Iran because their Aytullah is there and they can wage war against Pakistan if Aytullah says.....

That’s complete BS. Shia respect the Ayatollah but the overwhelming majority will not take up arms against Pakistan for the sake of Iran.

Just look at the groups that have committed the most violence against the State of Pakistan and its people - they’re not Shia, in fact their ideology has a lot more links to Saudi Arabia.

Also consider this a warning - stop spreading unsubstantiated poison against Pakistani Shia.

 

[American Pakistani]

Most Sunnis after Malaysia and the most Shias after Iran .


where others failed, their armies disbanded, we rallied and we united. our country is represented by both faiths in politics, media, showbiz, philosophers, armed forces and sports. what was a weakness for countries like Syria and Iraq proved to be a unifying force instead just like Jinnah and Iqbal.

Nicely written. Especially the weakness /unifying Para.

Bold : I think you mean Indonesia?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

That’s complete BS. Shia respect the Ayatollah but the overwhelming majority will not take up arms against Pakistan for the sake of Iran.

Just look at the groups that have committed the most violence against the State of Pakistan and its people - they’re not Shia, in fact their ideology has a lot more links to Saudi Arabia.

Also consider this a warning - stop spreading unsubstantiated poison against Pakistani Shia.

i hope my paranoid friends inflicted by Irya Maqbool jan understand that if having pro feeling was same as actually picking up arms then there would've been civil war.

the only community that did pick arms and played football with our soldiers heads amd massacred kids in schools are not from shia community.


those that put saudis and iran first in actions beyond words
i do want shias and their sunni deobandi counterparts to go to middle east and never come back

rest that dont just chill and keep dominating TTP Daesh and BLA together and be ready for next Modi adventure

 

[El Sidd]

i am of the view that we take our side
and see what is best for us.
i am not suggesting picking up arms and getting involved is serving our interests.

just be clear and unapologetic.

I am just a little alarmed at the thought how lightly this is being taken in the country. Specially when pro Kashmir campaigns have been hushed up due to FATF fears. A matter of a proxy whose flag fly side by side with a country's armed forces and her tentacles cannot be brushed aside or hushed up through super secret meetings.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

i hope my paranoid friends inflicted by Irya Maqbool jan understand that if having pro feeling was same as actually picking up arms then there would've been civil war.

the only community that did pick arms and played football with our soldiers heads amd massacred kids in schools are not from shia community.


those that put saudis and iran first in actions beyond words
i do want shias and their sunni deobandi counterparts to go to middle east and never come back

rest that dont just chill and keep dominating TTP Daesh and BLA together and be ready for next Modi adventure

When was the last time people said something like, "the Sunnis/Deobandis in Pakistan will side with Saudi Arabia if Saudi Arabia asks them"? Is there not a lot of respect for the Saudis in the Sunni community in Pakistan, just like there is a lot of respect for the Iranians in the Shia community?

These people talk about the 'Zainabeyoun' militia run by Iran, but how many Sunni Pakistanis went to fight for TTP, Laskhar-e-Jhangvi, JuA, ISIS etc etc?

How many 'Sunni' Pakistanis massacred our children, women & men in horrific terrorist attacks?

How many 'Sunni' Pakistanis played 'football' with the heads of our brave soldiers?

Why is it that these degenerates come out of the woodwork to only question the loyalty of the Pakistani Shia?

 

[MastanKhan]

Let the Arabs, Iranians and the US fight it out....burn them all in the coming wars. Get your economy up, take charge and be the new US in the region.

Once bloodshed has reached its peak or/& ended, broker deals between the two extremes in the region. Take control of Makkah & Medina....limit Iranian influence or just curb it to the ground.

Formup an actual Muslim alliance, against the West (or just the US), with the help of Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia etc....clean up the Muslim world of Western backed dictators (like Sisi)...expand your own sphere of influence.

I'm sure the EU won't interfere in all of this....they're not like the US and more cautious when they know they're going up against a near peer adversaries.

Bring in a new age of prosperity with the dismantling of neocolonial grip all around the Muslim world.

Obviously, it's easier said than done but you gotta have some backbone which Pakistan right now severely lacks imo.



Why not just overthrow both of them??

We know these regimes aren't going to last long....either the Zio-US backed Saudis or the rabid Mullahs.

Hi,

Yemen crisis gave us control of the region---without the region being destroyed---and we fluffed the easy catch.

Why do we need a torn down and destroyed region when we had the opportunity to take charge of a healthier unit---?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

When was the last time people said something like, "the Sunnis/Deobandis in Pakistan will side with Saudi Arabia if Saudi Arabia asks them"? Is there not a lot of respect for the Saudis in the Sunni community in Pakistan, just like there is a lot of respect for the Iranians in the Shia community?

These people talk about the 'Zainabeyoun' militia run by Iran, but how many Sunni Pakistanis went to fight for TTP, Laskhar-e-Jhangvi, JuA, ISIS etc etc?

Why is it that these degenerates come out of the woodwork to only question the loyalty of the Pakistani Shia?

good point

its paranoia and yellow journalism


the loyalty of all Pakistanis is to their home

those that had different view are not here

those that are here rest assured these are not at the cost of national security

Hi,

Yemen crisis gave us control of the region---without the region being destroyed---and we fluffed the easy catch.

Why do we need a torn down and destroyed region when we had the opportunity to take charge of a healthier unit---?

we need to be on top of our game for that khan g

we are not there
our move or lack of it was prudence
Daesh is attacking Afghan taluban delegates in Pakistan
we need to sort this peace deal first


i get it wjat you are saying amd i have sympathy with that re our more assertive stance in ME

you dont pull.any punches and i respect you for that even when i dont fully agree.

but thats what makes us better than persians and sauds
we can speak our mind

 

[El Sidd]

These people talk about the 'Zainabeyoun' militia run by Iran, but how many Sunni Pakistanis went to fight for TTP, Laskhar-e-Jhangvi, JuA, ISIS etc etc?

are you equating recruitment by a STATE to a recruitment by a PROXY?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Hi,

Yemen crisis gave us control of the region---without the region being destroyed---and we fluffed the easy catch.

Why do we need a torn down and destroyed region when we had the opportunity to take charge of a healthier unit---?

MK,

While I agree with your broader point, given the bloodbath Yemen has turned out to be, with even the UAE pulling out, don't you think we saved a lot of lives (of Pakistani soldiers) by not getting involved?

are you equating recruitment by a STATE to a recruitment by a PROXY?

You're correct - in the Shia case, there have been limited to zero attacks by these militant organizations on Pakistani soil against the Pakistani State, whereas in the Sunni case, we have suffered over a decade of bloodshed and violence against the Pakistani State, tens of thousands of civilians and soldiers killed, tens of billions of dollars in losses.

No comparison at all.

Yet it is the Pakistani Shia who have their loyalty questioned.

 

[El Sidd]

You're correct - in the Shia case, there have been limited to zero attacks by these militant organizations on Pakistani soil against the Pakistani State, whereas in the Sunni case, we have suffered over a decade of bloodshed and violence against the Pakistani State, tens of thousands of civilians and soldiers killed, tens of billions of dollars in losses.

No comparison at all.

Yet it is the Pakistani Shia who have their loyalty questioned.

It is hard to do analysis since we have not seen terrorism reported in Pakistan as radical sunni extremism nor radical shia extremism. Unless provided with the data it is hard for me to comment on who has the lead in this sports. Maybe this is why Pakistan treats terrorism as to have no religious denomination or maybe it is time to change and notify these acts under labels of sunni extremism or shia extremism.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

It is hard to do analysis since we have not seen terrorism reported in Pakistan as radical sunni extremism nor radical shia extremism. Unless provided with the data it is hard for me to comment on who has the lead in this sports. Maybe this is why Pakistan treats terrorism as to have no religious denomination or maybe it is time to change and notify these acts under labels of sunni extremism or shia extremism.

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