It depends on muzzle climb of the system among other considerations (barrel heating + warping and affect on accuracy from prolonged sustained fire).
From what I gather, excalibur addressed muzzle climb better compared to INSAS by putting the recoil line more in line with contact point on shoulder so that the moment is mitigated (similar to M-16 design philosophy compared to AK or G3 for example).
You misunderstood me,I wasn't talking about the technicalities but training ethics.
Training will always be done on semi-auto or burst fire mode at most because soldiers have to get the precision and efficiency ingrained in them.
No,training is virtually always (well,99% of the times) to be conducted in by keeping the setting at semi auto.That's the norm in Indian Army.
Sustained covering fire is much more optimized with the use of machine guns...light medium or heavy depending on situation.....where bulk mass and barrel/chamber design are specifically designed to prevent early overheating, cook off, adverse recoil etc.
Knew that already,but still thanks.
However having the option of full auto fire on a standard assault rifle
Nope,not at all.Because soldiers are always under strict order of not to change the settings from semi auto to anything else,come what may!!And under the rarest of the rare circumstances,for example,while firing from a moving vehicle,they can only fire in no more than three round bursts.So there is practically no reason to keep the full auto settings on the assault rifles.
....especially on a recoil mitigated platform
Nope,not even with a recoil mitigated platform.Simply because it has got very less to do with the recoil (no matter how much you are able to cut down the recoil or muzzle rise,long bursts at over 20 meters will never be accurate to any reasonable degree) but everything to do with discipline,preventing fouling and wearing of the barrels and most importantly - conservation of ammunition.
Nope,more like a minus if you ask me.
....because it is better to have it and not need it than the other way around. Your squad may not always have machine gun support, or the MG squaddie might have been taken out and you need to improvise and lay down covering fire with what is in your hands etc. There are a myriad of situations that training cannot replicate 100%.....
There appears to be a lot of misconception about this thing.Ok,do you know about the SOP followed by the Indian Army??Have you read their hand books or field manuals??Do you know what's the maximum rounds per minute are authorized by the military, for every rifle man to expend,while giving suppressive fire?? Let me notify you -
every rifle man is under strict order of expending 12 shots per minute while laying down suppressive fire,whhich under circumstances,can be increased to no more than 15 per minute!!So under such strict fire discipline,even short bursts won't be needed,let alone pulling down your trigger and dumping whole mags worth of bullets in one go,and if some JCO catches some one doing the same,will probably hang him up side down in front of the Quarter Master,that's how serious these chaps are about maintaining trigger discipline!!
Let me tell you my experience of talking to a retired infantry officer,a good friend of mine by the way.And according to him,as a Major,he made it absolutely clear to his soldiers that under no circumstances,they are to fire their rifles on anything other than well aimed semi automatic fire...........and that failing to obey this rule would invite sever most punishments imaginable.The soldiers are to fire in semi auto all the time,come what may.............except in rarest of the rarest occasions,like engaging the enemy from a moving vehicle or a moving enemy etc,were they allowed to use short bursts,and that too,very sparingly;anything else,whether you are the enemy is making a dash towards your position or you are jumping into the trenches or kicking open doors of rooms full of hostiles,you are to use semi auto.
If your enemies are hosing down your position with a large volume of fire,maneuver yourself to a more suitable position,outflank him and then finish them off with well aimed semi auto fire.That's why trigger pulls in quick successions has been emphasized in the training regime and deeply ingrained into each and every soldier by Indian Army.
It has been found that,contrary to common intuition,even while clearing rooms with multiple hostiles,full automatic fire from a rifle is of virtually no use due to the low ammo capacity of the box magazines,that feed the rifles...............and also due to the fact that,the tangos would rarely take position in close groupings to each other - which means even if one is to engage them with full automatic fire from one's rifle,hoping to get all of them at one go,you won't be able to hit no more than a single opponent within a single trigger pull.Worse,engaging them on full auto setting under such high adrenaline situation,no matter how much well trained you are,will more than likely,end you up with emptying your magazine,while other tangos are still alive - and then you would be doomed for certain.That's why,even during room clearance operations,it's a virtually universal norm to use semi automatic fire.
And by the way,if one is to go by the words of my good friend,in his 15 years of service,he used three round burst only once and that too,during a training session in the range.
The best compromise would be to have multiple modes and a selection lever for them like on this SIG 550 which is on safety in the picture...3 = 3 rnd burst 1 = semi S= safe, full auto hidden by guard.
No,the best compromise would be to eliminate this full automatic setting from the rifles altogether and stick to the Safe - Semi Auto - Burst settings present in the INSAS and the M 16A4.
now my confusion got cleared thanks
and need help about mciws what is its effective range?
in wikipedia its 300-500m
but many times here in pdf i read its only 250-350m.
Depends on the ammo you are using.For the M43,you would be lucky to hit anything reliably beyond 200 meters,where as with 5.56X45,you can reliably engage point targets out to distance of 450 meters or so.............with a scope of course.But standard engagements rarely take place at such distances,with most taking place within no more than 350 yards with most kills being made within 200 yards.Of course there would be occasional exceptions every now and then,but then again,exception proves the norm.
