Indonesia gets US nod for F-15 and F-18 fighter jet purchases

[whatintarnation]

Congratulates. With this advance airplanes, you can challenge all around neighbors now.

Ironically, our rearmament program was expedited to deal with Chinese intrusion in our EEZ.

We're not planning to challenge any of our immediate ASEAN or Pacific neighbours, we're only trying to keep up with the times in terms of military capability.

 

[antonius123]

we need to have some sort of SUPER SEKRIT agreements no need to tell out loud.

Nothing secret about war plane inventory.

 

[striver44]

Nothing secret about war plane inventory.

shhhh, the chinese spy could discover our plot.

 

[Trailer23]

The F-15s and F-18s are manufactured by U.S. aerospace companies McDonnell Douglas and Boeing.

Which moron wrote this article?

The name McDonnell Douglas hasn't existed in over 2-decades. They were bought out by Boeing in '97 & became: Boeing Defense, Space & Security

The US had said that Indonesia needs to operate certain type of late model US 4th gen fighter to hop on the Lightning II.

That's odd. A certain country in the Middle East/Gulf was given the green light without having to 'operate certain type of late US 4th Gen Fighter'.

So Dassault ,LM and McDonnel Douglas will slug it out for the contract ?

...eh, Boeing - not MD.

 

[maverick1977]

Su-35 is just a small batch purchase as aggressor unit for China. Before that indonesia bought a few Su-30M

against China ? really, why are they not allied with China ? doesnt make sense, lol , unless Indonesian politicians are corrupt and gett overseas $ accounts for retirement

 

[striver44]

against China ? really, why are they not allied with China ? doesnt make sense, lol , unless Indonesian politicians are corrupt and gett overseas $ accounts for retirement

China has no ally other than NK.

 

[antonius123]

shhhh, the chinese spy could discover our plot.

Doesn't take average IQ leave alone 130 ..... to see that everybody can smell any warplane that a country buy.

 

[whatintarnation]

against China ? really, why are they not allied with China ? doesnt make sense, lol , unless Indonesian politicians are corrupt and gett overseas $ accounts for retirement

lmao this dude

 

[dbc]

AESA strenght is on LPI and can radiate multiple beams which is good for being stealthy and EW, but cannot help to detect low RCS object better than PESA radar. Therefore if your AESA detection range for 1m2 object is 150km, while your own RCS is 5m2 if your opponent have roughly same radar capability then your opponent will detect you first, because your RCS is considerably bigger.

Furthermore, as I said before even if you can detect your opponent 150km away, you can do nothing! because your AMRAAM range is far below 150km.

As an example, the difference in the max detection range between the APG-63(v9) (mechanically scanned) and the APG-83 SABR (electronically scanned) is 40%.


The strength of AESA is lower side lobe even at max power v a PESA, LPI and detection range, jam resistance is all a consequence of it.
Also, clutter rejection is a function of compute resources (and antenna) the more CPU you throw at it the lower your clutter rejection threshold is ..and therefore you improve your detection probability.

But all this is a moot point, a 4th GEN fighter carrying fuel tanks and ordnance isn't going to have a low RCS - regardless of how small the aircraft is..

Your final objection on AMRAAM range is valid but like I said before a Meteor or PL 15 launched at the edge of its envelope isn't going to hit a modern 4.5 GEN fighter packed with defensive aids (jammers and decoys)
and certainly not an F-15 that can loiter higher than any other aircraft and see further than them all.

 

[maverick1977]

China has no ally other than NK.

ASEAN countries are stupid? work with a global power in your vicinity, increase trade, tourism, have manufacturing moved there like mexico has done, and have logical alignment with China.
sound like leadership in ASEAN countries are pure corrupt and only care for dollar for themselves..

 

[striver44]

ASEAN countries are stupid? work with a global power in your vicinity, increase trade, tourism, have manufacturing moved there like mexico has done, and have logical alignment with China.
sound like leadership in ASEAN countries are pure corrupt and only care for dollar for themselves..

Ask China to stop sending their coast guard and prevent ASEAN countries to extract resources from their own EEZ.

We do have a burgeoning trade with China tho, even larger than iron bro Pakistan-China.

 

[Place Of Space]

Yes, once we reach certain numbers we should do airspaces intrusion in the South China Sea ADIZ.

Sounds like the airplanes are free. The America making the planes hasn't intruded into the ADIZ. You buy planes, how do you have the ball. One more plane is shot down, You will have less one in stock.

 

[striver44]

Sounds like the airplanes are free. The America making the planes hasn't intruded into the ADIZ. You buy planes, how do you have the ball. One more plane is shot down, You will have less one in stock.

And you'll have one less missile to shoot at the Americans.

 

[Place Of Space]

And you'll have one less missile to shoot at the Americans.

American just interested in selling weapons. They will not pay for the war. That's win win. They make money from you. They will also push Australia and India beat you, you are the most competitor in Indian ocean in future.

 

[striver44]

American just interested in selling weapons. They will not pay for the war. That's win win. They make money from you. They will also push Australia and India beat you, you are the most competitor in Indian ocean in future.

I don't see it that way, a strong Indonesia is actually the best interest for Australia and India, just as these countries being strong is in the best interest of Indonesia.