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[afiq0110]

I just read about BIN's rajawali special forces...

Anyone got any info about this ?

 

[HellFireIndo]

Israeli Navy aren't as competent as their Army and Air Force, i think it's a common knowledge

 

[Raduga]

Israeli Navy aren't as competent as their Army and Air Force, i think it's a common knowledge

well the battle of baltim/damietta and the 1st & 2nd battle of latakia beg to differ , they yeet the arab league soviet made missile boat fleet with their gabriel and actually manage to divert oncoming Styx missile with their ECM and chaff, in the term of modern battle with anti ship missile and electronic warfare , they seems to have more experience than our navy .

 

[Fl0gger]

I just read about BIN's rajawali special forces...

Anyone got any info about this ?

Tukang karung mirip CIA ops waskita clandestine ops etc

 

[Nike]

 

[afiq0110]

Tukang karung mirip CIA ops waskita clandestine ops etc

Thanks @Fl0gger

Too many agency with same form of task force... It will overlapse soon... They will fight over jurisdiction rather than focusing on solving the problem asap...

Than again, another task force means a new vacant positions for some idle officers... Another procurement proposal... Another training expenses... Luckily it also means another grunts to be upgraded to higher skill level

My beloved country...

 

[Nike]

Natuna Panas! Kapal China Kembali Masuk Laut RI


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Foto: Laut Natuna Utara. (Dok: Koarmada I)

Jakarta, CNBC Indonesia - Kapal China kembali masuk perairan laut RI. Kali ini, kapal itu masuk ke wilayah Laut Natuna Utara.

Berdasarkan rilis Badan Keamanan Laut Republik Indonesia (Bakamla RI) kejadian terjadi dari Sabtu (12/9/2020) hingga hari ini Minggu (13/9/2020). Kapal Coast Guard (penjaga kapal) China dengan nomor lambung 5204 masuk Natuna sejak pukul 10.00 WIB kemarin.

Baca: Prabowo Buka-bukaan Soal Pertemuan dengan Menhan China

"Kapal Coast Guard China kedapatan berkeliaran di ZEEI (Zona Ekonomi Ekslusif RI) Laut Natuna Utara, yang merupakan wilayah yurisdiksi Indonesia," tulis lembaga itu dalam keterangan pers yang diterima CNBC Indonesia.

"Meskipun sudah ditanyakan maksud keberadannya, kapal China enggan pergi dan berkeras di area tersebut."

Baca: Prabowo Bertemu Menhan China, Bahas Laut China Selatan?

Kapal CCG 5204 bersikeras bahwa mereka sedang berpatroli di area nine dash line (sembilan garis putus-putus) yang merupakan wilayah teritorial Republik Rakyat China. Bakamla RI sudah menyampaikan bahwa berdasarkan UNCLOS1982 (UU laut internasional), nine dash line tidak diakui keberadaan. Kapal itu pun diusir agar segera keluar dari wilayah yurisdiksi Indonesia.

Perlu diketahui bahwa Laut Natuna Utara merupakan wilayah yurisdiksi Indonesia, di mana Indonesia memiliki hak berdaulat atas sumber daya alam di kolom air. Kapal-kapal asing dibenarkan melintas dengan syarat tidak melakukan aktivitas lain yang bertentangan dengan hukum nasional.

"Sampai saat ini, kedua kapal masih saling membayang-bayangi satu sama lain. KN Nipah 321 terus berupaya menghalau CCG 5204 keluar dari ZEEI," tulis pernyataan Bakamla lagi. "Bakamla RI sedang berkoordinasi dengan Kemenkopolhukam dan Kemenlu."

Natuna Panas! Kapal China Kembali Masuk Laut RI

Kapal China kembali masuk perairan laut RI. Hingga kini Bakamla masih coba usir kapal tersebut.

www.cnbcindonesia.com

 

[Raduga]

Thanks @Fl0gger

Too many agency with same form of task force... It will overlapse soon... They will fight over jurisdiction rather than focusing on solving the problem asap...

Than again, another task force means a new vacant positions for some idle officers... Another procurement proposal... Another training expenses... Luckily it also means another grunts to be upgraded to higher skill level

My beloved country...

KPLP , DJBC , Bakamla , PSDKP , POLAIR : "first time ?"

 

[afiq0110]

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Why were the army reluctant to receive this beasts ? (I read on PDF previous post about it)

I love this machine just by looking at it

Astros and self-motion cannon has their own battle doctrine... We also bought towed cannon anyways

 

[san.geuk]

Natuna Panas! Kapal China Kembali Masuk Laut RI


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Foto: Laut Natuna Utara. (Dok: Koarmada I)

Jakarta, CNBC Indonesia - Kapal China kembali masuk perairan laut RI. Kali ini, kapal itu masuk ke wilayah Laut Natuna Utara.

Berdasarkan rilis Badan Keamanan Laut Republik Indonesia (Bakamla RI) kejadian terjadi dari Sabtu (12/9/2020) hingga hari ini Minggu (13/9/2020). Kapal Coast Guard (penjaga kapal) China dengan nomor lambung 5204 masuk Natuna sejak pukul 10.00 WIB kemarin.

Baca: Prabowo Buka-bukaan Soal Pertemuan dengan Menhan China

"Kapal Coast Guard China kedapatan berkeliaran di ZEEI (Zona Ekonomi Ekslusif RI) Laut Natuna Utara, yang merupakan wilayah yurisdiksi Indonesia," tulis lembaga itu dalam keterangan pers yang diterima CNBC Indonesia.

"Meskipun sudah ditanyakan maksud keberadannya, kapal China enggan pergi dan berkeras di area tersebut."

Baca: Prabowo Bertemu Menhan China, Bahas Laut China Selatan?

Kapal CCG 5204 bersikeras bahwa mereka sedang berpatroli di area nine dash line (sembilan garis putus-putus) yang merupakan wilayah teritorial Republik Rakyat China. Bakamla RI sudah menyampaikan bahwa berdasarkan UNCLOS1982 (UU laut internasional), nine dash line tidak diakui keberadaan. Kapal itu pun diusir agar segera keluar dari wilayah yurisdiksi Indonesia.

Perlu diketahui bahwa Laut Natuna Utara merupakan wilayah yurisdiksi Indonesia, di mana Indonesia memiliki hak berdaulat atas sumber daya alam di kolom air. Kapal-kapal asing dibenarkan melintas dengan syarat tidak melakukan aktivitas lain yang bertentangan dengan hukum nasional.

"Sampai saat ini, kedua kapal masih saling membayang-bayangi satu sama lain. KN Nipah 321 terus berupaya menghalau CCG 5204 keluar dari ZEEI," tulis pernyataan Bakamla lagi. "Bakamla RI sedang berkoordinasi dengan Kemenkopolhukam dan Kemenlu."

Natuna Panas! Kapal China Kembali Masuk Laut RI

Kapal China kembali masuk perairan laut RI. Hingga kini Bakamla masih coba usir kapal tersebut.

www.cnbcindonesia.com

that's why we need to hurry big hull platform, semakin dibiarin semakin melunjak

 

[Nike]

Why were the army reluctant to receive this beasts ? (I read on PDF previous post about it)

I love this machine just by looking at it

Astros and self-motion cannon has their own battle doctrine... We also bought towed cannon anyways

this old AMX artillery version, carry 105 mm gun, not M109 from Belgium

 

[Nike]

that's why we need to hurry big hull platform, semakin dibiarin semakin melunjak

they are, we need to get a hold and decided to build up arms to deter them

 

[Ravager]

they are, we need to get a hold and decided to build up arms to deter them

Hmm , the thing/ CCG was come not long after their defense minister was coming in indonesia right ?? It was kind of big stick diplomacy they are playing try to coerce/intimidate us or simply the lack or coordination on their side political of things ??


regardless , On side note : this is might the right pushes for all that staled talks of things to come ASAP . When things get too hot to handle ...sometime even no more discussion or greasing were to be needed just to show our determination to spite at something .
Some time i was lamenting on our " bawaan " physche

 

[Nike]

Until i write this, no one of China

 

[¿Por qué?]

It looks like the F/A-18C/D jets that the Finnish Air Force (Ilmavoimat) want to replace, all are upgraded already through their MLU program in 2012-2016.

Wonder if we'd be interested in this. There's plenty of them, total of 62 jets (55 F/A-18C and 7 F/A-18D).

Apart from the fact that we don't need to upgrade, as a twin-engine bird F/A-18 also has attractive CPFH of around $11000 (Chestnut data).

I suppose we're still lacking around 80 jets to reach MEF 2024 target, and maybe around 200 jets to reach ideal posture (cmiiw).

If we intend to switch the majority of our $5.6 billion budget for SU-35 and F-16V to execute the interim program, this could be useful. Along with 50 F-16 A/B from Norway, and EF Typhoon.

So the interim line up will be :

- 50 F-16 A/B from Norway. Free but need upgrade.

- 60 F/A-18C/D from Finland. Need to buy but no need to upgrade

- 30-50 (?) EF Typhoon from Austria and probably Germany/Italy. 115 Tranche 1 jets are all upgraded to Block 5 (not sure about the Austrian ones). Need to buy and do some upgrade.

link : https://ilmavoimat.fi/documents/195...orce+Fact+Sheet+-+FA-18CD+Hornet+(JAN+18).pdf