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[Cromwell]

Calm your tits, behave & react accordingly, no need childish over reacting attitude and this is an International based forum then type in English

 

[Cromwell]

Lady yg paling kanan kalo ingatan/penglihatan ga salah Evi Lusviana Ketua Umum Persatuan Industri Pertahanan Swasta Nasional (Pinhantanas) (cmiiw)

I'd rather have 15% but worth evey percentage then having more but unable to be absorbed by our own Def Industry.

Certainly much bigger percentage than 1st batch but our works still mostly cover on hull not the subsystems or software, PT.LEN will receive integrating CMS & study on how electronic components in submarines but majority of our works will be related on hull

 

[Cromwell]

not that I disagree with you, but how is the Korean trusted us (basically cheap certified welder) with the Submarines assemblings, if our quality is that bad ?
looking back at the PKR project, now they said that Iver will be built 100% locally, somehow I doubt that. Yes we had our experience with LHD, PKR, and KCR, but I hoped that our government is carefull enough so the Iver wont end up like Gowind in our neighbour.

Gowind or Maharajalela Class is a disastrous and God knows how they will manage them, we are corrupt but we are at least still sane enough to complete PKR. I must admit not the whole Iver Huitfeldt sections will be built here, that's why we still wait for team from Babcock & OMT on study whether how much works to be done here, after situation deemed safe due to COVID 19 pandemy

 

[Logam42]

Gowind or Maharajalela Class is a disastrous and God knows how they will manage them, we are corrupt but we are at least still sane enough to complete PKR. I must admit not the whole Iver Huitfeldt sections will be built here, that's why we still wait for team from Babcock & OMT on study whether how much works to be done here, after situation deemed safe due to COVID 19 pandemy

Ok, anyone willing to give more info?

What about gowind? Which neighbor? What the happened?
@Alex898

 

[Alex898]

Ok, anyone willing to give more info?

What about gowind? Which neighbor? What the happened?
@Alex898

Malaysian, try read about their LCS project called Maharajalela class, derivatives from DCNS Gowind corvettes. its full ToT project, build 100% in local shipyard, which unfortunately failed, and cost them milions even billions of dollars.
this is why I said we better be careful if its gonna be 100% built here, because we dont have any experience in building 6000tonnes frigate, and also its gonna be our flagship.

 

[Nike]

not that I disagree with you, but how is the Korean trusted us (basically cheap certified welder) with the Submarines assemblings, if our quality is that bad ?
looking back at the PKR project, now they said that Iver will be built 100% locally, somehow I doubt that. Yes we had our experience with LHD, PKR, and KCR, but I hoped that our government is carefull enough so the Iver wont end up like Gowind in our neighbour.

To increase our participation in such project we need to nurture more on the subsystem development, including on everything we are deemed capable and not capable yet. To build a modern warships you need , steel plates, engine block and transmission along with the propeller system, Navigation system (the basic and military purpose), Combat management system, combat consol unit, optronic system like designator and the likes, air search and surface radar, Cannon and heavy machine gun, Missiles and such. On PKR alone how much our participation? Block of ship modules from steel plate, integration works and installation of the said system under heavy guidance from Damen supervisor, thus not much percentage from that though such jobs is oddly being for the most visible during ships construction. But process to build the most expensive stuff like Missiles, radars, combat consol, jamming system, decoy, torpedo launcher and all procured directly from vendor in Europe.

 

[Raduga]

from lembaga keris

i'd be good if we can get 8x8 or tracked oerlikon Skyranger platform as C-RAM or SPAA .

ground master 200 are rarely documented on footage

 

[umigami]

I don't like current PDF font, it's like everything got BOLD.

 

[Cromwell]

Similarities between F-16 A/B MLU cockpit with F-16 C/D

 

[Cromwell]

 

[Indos]

To increase our participation in such project we need to nurture more on the subsystem development, including on everything we are deemed capable and not capable yet. To build a modern warships you need , steel plates, engine block and transmission along with the propeller system, Navigation system (the basic and military purpose), Combat management system, combat consol unit, optronic system like designator and the likes, air search and surface radar, Cannon and heavy machine gun, Missiles and such.

On PKR alone how much our participation? Block of ship modules from steel plate, integration works and installation of the said system under heavy guidance from Damen supervisor, thus not much percentage from that though such jobs is oddly being for the most visible during ships construction. But process to build the most expensive stuff like Missiles, radars, combat consol, jamming system, decoy, torpedo launcher and all procured directly from vendor in Europe.

Not only Hull, but there is subsystem contract as well, look like members here only talk about PT PAL contribution on PKR frigate ship, but forgot that Indonesia also has PT LEN Industry that participate on the project.

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PT Len Industri Receives Warship Software Contract​

BANDUNG, KOMPAS.com - PT Len Industri (Persero) has received a cooperation contract to work on software for a missile escort destroyer (PKR) or frigate destroyer, for the second time. The contract this time is a collaboration between PT Len Industri and the Dutch multinational company Thales.

"This project gives a new color to Len's (PT) business, selling working hours that will provide a significant percentage of profits as well as strategic in the development of defense industry technology," said President Director of PT Len Industri, Abraham Mosse, after the signing with Thales Netherlands, in Bandung, Tuesday (26/8/2014).

The signing of the contract by Mosse with the CEO of Thales Netherlands, Gerben Edelijn, was witnessed by a member of the Defense Industry Policy Committee, TNI Intermediate Marshal (Purnawirawan) Eries Heryanto. According to Mosse, the signing of the cooperation is to further strengthen cooperation in the fields of the future Naval Combat Management System (CMS) and Combat System Integration (CSI), especially the missile or frigate escort destroyer program.

"This cooperation is for the CMS device on the frigate. The government buys the two types of vessels where PT Len and Thales work on the CMS device that integrates the communication system on the ship," he said.

The procurement of the warships was carried out by the government in collaboration with the Dutch shipyard, Damen Schelde Nabal Shipbuilding, and Thales Netherlands as leaders in the sensor integrator, weapon and command (Sewaco) subsector.

Especially for the second cooperation contract, said Mosse, it contains the development of the EO Tracker, Mass Decoy Launcher, and VL-MICA Surface-to-Air Missile sting software. Meanwhile, Head of the Defense Industry of PT Len, Nurman, said this project was very strategic because it allowed the development of information and communication technology (ICT) systems and other weapons communication.

"Especially for CMS frigates, this is a strategic step, because there are still many ships that need the system. Especially for this cooperation project, the total value reaches 2 million euros," said Nurman.

Currently, according to him, PT Len is the only company in the country that has succeeded in making CMS and has installed it in three frigates in the Van Speijk class of the Indonesian Navy, KRI Yos Sudarso-353, KRI Oswald Siahaan-354 and KRI Abdul Halim Perdanakusuma- 354.

Meanwhile, the CEO of Thales Netherland, Gerben Edelijn, said that this cooperation would be a foundation for long-term cooperation to work on a number of projects in Indonesia. "Thales has experience in the defense industry software sector, and Len is a competent company in Indonesia and a strategic partner in the future," said Edelijn.

PT Len Industri Dapat Kontrak "Software" Kapal Perang

PT Len Industri (Persero) mendapat kontrak kerja sama penggarapan perangkat lunak untuk kapal perang jenis perusak kawal rudal (PKR) atau fregat, untuk kedua kalinya.

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[Chestnut]

from lembaga keris

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i'd be good if we can get 8x8 or tracked oerlikon Skyranger platform as C-RAM or SPAA .

ground master 200 are rarely documented on footage

We have the CONTROLmaster 200, not the longer ranged Ground Master.

 

[NEKONEKO]

Especially for the second cooperation contract, said Mosse, it contains the development of the EO Tracker, Mass Decoy Launcher, and VL-MICA Surface-to-Air Missile sting software. Meanwhile, Head of the Defense Industry of PT Len, Nurman, said this project was very strategic because it allowed the development of information and communication technology (ICT) systems and other weapons communication

Noice.

 

[Raduga]

We have the CONTROLmaster 200, not the longer ranged Ground Master.

Its still ground master 200 .

"CONTROLMaster 200 combines a high performance 3D GM200 radar and CONTROLView C2 Command and Control module"

 

[Chestnut]

Noice