Indonesia Defence Forum

[san.geuk]

So the typhoon request is an official request, still f15 should be condired afterall they Made by Boeing, extend their cooperation with PT DI after osprey,
Hope Airbus gives PT DI better deal for this

 

[HellFireIndo]

I'm against the Typhoon, it make no sense whatsoever

 

[umigami]

Pasukan TNI Berhasil Selamatkan Warga AS dari Penyanderaan di Kongo

 

[Raduga]

throwback in 2015 when eurofighter resting in PT.DI Hanggar :
https://aviatren.com/2015/04/17/ini...ditawarkan-eurofighter-diproduksi-di-bandung/
https://bandung.kompas.com/read/201...Jet.Tempur.Typhoon.yang.Bisa.Diproduksi.PT.DI

offset offer for indonesia back then :
1.CFT production line in indonesia with export permission
2.Canard Wings
3.internal Hardware And Software transfer of technology

 

[mejikuhibiu]

The thing is, user (airforce)s want SU-35 to be procured and to increase it's number to 16 (1 sq) same with pantsir, it's user desire.

TNIAU doesnt want su35 or sukhoi family from beginning..
its will EF 1 ska, i still hope its rafale..
Maybe airbus offering us much better than dassault

 

[Chestnut]

Well, atleast that's what i saw. Pantsir has been requested by Marines and waiting for further situation even tho i would suggest marines and army to operate k30 together

Looking at current situation on us, procuring refurbished typhoon instead of F15 on boneyard/NGA really confused me tho. Noone in MoD has such idea? In terms of commonality, feature and long term avaibility it's much better to procure refurbished eagle or falcon tho

Let's just wait the situation, does viper, osprey and other possible procurement from US like awacs, SAM system, Poseidon could provide us caatsa waiver?

Atleast for now what i know is we're going to contract MRTT this year

I think people should just forget about getting a CAATSA waiver. It's not going to happen. In the grand scheme of geopolitics the US does not see China as an immediate threat to our sovereignty compared to say India or Vietnam.

 

[NEKONEKO]

During the roadshow, in which the consortium brought a full-scale replica to state-owned aircraft maker PT Dirgantara Indonesia’s plant in Bandung, West Java, the consortium offered to move an assembly line from Spain to Bandung should Indonesia decide to procure the Typhoons.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/amp/...fers-to-buy-austrias-typhoon-jetfighters.html

throwback in 2015 when eurofighter resting in PT.DI Hanggar :
https://aviatren.com/2015/04/17/ini...ditawarkan-eurofighter-diproduksi-di-bandung/
https://bandung.kompas.com/read/201...Jet.Tempur.Typhoon.yang.Bisa.Diproduksi.PT.DI

offset offer for indonesia back then :
1.CFT production line in indonesia with export permission
2.Canard Wings
3.internal Hardware And Software transfer of technology

Ayyy

Apakah tawaran EF dulu juga dimasukkan dalam pertimbangan rencana pembelian EF Austria?

 

[ardezzo]

well, I don't care which plane we choose in the end as long it's beneficial to us (both military n defence industry)

Su35 or other Russian system couldn't be integrated to our network link, and that includes those panstir garbage. In addition I highly doubt any ToT or offset from them. so that's a big NO.

better stick to NATO system.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

During the roadshow, in which the consortium brought a full-scale replica to state-owned aircraft maker PT Dirgantara Indonesia’s plant in Bandung, West Java, the consortium offered to move an assembly line from Spain to Bandung should Indonesia decide to procure the Typhoons.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/amp/...fers-to-buy-austrias-typhoon-jetfighters.html


Ayyy

Apakah tawaran EF dulu juga dimasukkan dalam pertimbangan rencana pembelian EF Austria?

Kayanya gk sih kalo cuma one-off gini.

 

[san.geuk]

During the roadshow, in which the consortium brought a full-scale replica to state-owned aircraft maker PT Dirgantara Indonesia’s plant in Bandung, West Java, the consortium offered to move an assembly line from Spain to Bandung should Indonesia decide to procure the Typhoons.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/amp/...fers-to-buy-austrias-typhoon-jetfighters.html


Ayyy

Apakah tawaran EF dulu juga dimasukkan dalam pertimbangan rencana pembelian EF Austria?

Is EF still relevant in next decade, when their country start develop 6th gen?

 

[Alex898]

Apakah tawaran EF dulu juga dimasukkan dalam pertimbangan rencana pembelian EF Austria?

I believe there must be. it just doesnt make sense that MOD out of nowhere just going for pricy jet like typhoon. besides, Dahnil when asked about Sukhoi procurement a while ago, he said that prabowo is looking for jets that affordable for us (maintenance cost, etc), it would not cause any geopolitical problems, and the most important thing it must be included ToT or Offset. thats why I believe this EF Typhoon thing has something to do with what Airbus already offered for DI.

 

[Chestnut]

@Alex898

>Typhoon
>Affordable

Pick one my guy.

 

[Lasa-X]

TNIAU doesnt want su35 or sukhoi family from beginning..
its will EF 1 ska, i still hope its rafale..
Maybe airbus offering us much better than dassault

When you said "from beginning"...is it 1997 beginning? 2003 beginning? Or Around 2017 beginning?

 

[Alex898]

@Alex898

>Typhoon
>Affordable

Pick one my guy.

thats why I said, there must be some offering Airbus made for DI, whether it ToT for maintenance, or basically any offer that made the jet worth to considered. cause, there's just no way that we are going to buy that jet in normal situation.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

thats why I said, there must be some offering Airbus made for DI, whether it ToT for maintenance, or basically any offer that made the jet worth to considered. cause, there's just no way that we are going to buy that jet in normal situation.

We got 15 ready made fighters if we buy it. That seems to be the main reason why.

It's like the bung Tomo frigate deal.

Better in 1 hand kinda stuffs.