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The battle is really going to be for either the SAMP/T against the MIM-104 Patriot. (Forget about THAAD, any country that has THAAD in it's border is operated by US crews.)
Shiet, pardon me that i forgot about the South Korean THAAD shenanigans, seems like the thing is not really just a defense product for sale, but apparently this stuff is part of US' containment strategy through their allied nations.

As China continues to develop and expand its presence in the SCS, the idea of a theater based SAM/ABM system are going to become a hot button issue for the MPR. The S-300/400 series of missiles aren't going to cut it with our current infrastructure being mostly US/EU. You'd more likely see a Pantsir-S1 operated by the marines than a S-300/400 network operated by the army.
SAMP/T and Patriot are both good choices, but i feel that TNI would lean more towards SAMP/T, cause they already gone through a lot of deals with MBDA, and currently operate many of their products ranging from Mistral to the VL MICA and Exocet. I would infinitely prefers SAMP/T more than ground based VL MICA, and to some extent the Patriot, cause looking at the spec, seems like SAMP/T is more modern and is overall a better system duw to it's "better" Aster NT missiles and multirole capability, able to act as Field Air Defence on top of Area Air Defense capability, unlike Patriot which was build mostly for the latter only (for MEADS, i don't really know)

But before that, i think some deals for the Asters would be a good start, perhaps when somehow Iver be fitted with SYLVER i guess ?(i am fine with either Mk41 or Sylver). Of course the problem with MBDA choice would always be the cost, being usually more expensive as their products are often twice the price of American counterpart, but with a slight advantage of the ease of purchase and less political strings attached compared to US arms sales.

The like of JKGR kids would like to see a S400, but i'd like to say that it's a very low probability. Even in 1960s' dire situation, the Army still refuse to use any Russian weapons, when at that time the Navy and the Air Force's inventory were literally dominated by Russian weaponry. Knowing that, it's a no question that the Army would not accept the idea of buying and using Russian made strategic SAM when any other choice is available(but what if the Air Force got it instead?). For the Marines, Pantsir S1 as a tactical SAM would be good i guess, the Marines would happily accept the idea to continue to serve as a gudang senjata Rusia.
 
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About SAM at first i prefer the Patriot for our ARHANUD batt and our network system but recent years i'm just wondering about S-400 because this system selling is like hot-cake and i'm starting ask question why they prefer the S-400 system rather than Patriot is there any situation that we don't know so they prefer that system(even the Patriot user like Saudi Arabia)?and this doubt made me starting to think"well maybe if our armed forces have this S-400 system is not to bad".....Beberapa tahun yang lalu juga pernah tanya ke keluarga yang ada di Arhanud"Mas emang kita nggak tertarik sistem S-300 gitu?" dia jawab singkat "Mahal" LOL
 
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About SAM at first i prefer the Patriot for our ARHANUD batt and our network system but recent years i'm just wondering about S-400 because this system selling is like hot-cake and i'm starting ask question why they prefer the S-400 system rather than Patriot is there any situation that we don't know so they prefer that system(even the Patriot user like Saudi Arabia)?and this doubt made me starting to think"well maybe if our armed forces have this S-400 system is not to bad".....Beberapa tahun yang lalu juga pernah tanya ke keluarga yang ada di Arhanud"Mas emang kita nggak tertarik sistem S-300 gitu?" dia jawab singkat "Mahal" LOL
When even Turkey which have close ties with NATO got into trouble with the US for buying S400 and was threatened to be kicked out from F-35 program, imagine how much trouble Indonesia will get if it wanted S400 while at the same time wanted Viper?
 
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