What's new

Indonesia Defence Forum

Give it some religious name I mean new Gun like SAIF ( SWORD ) or something like that

What is important is that the motive on why we use the gun and who is the man behind the gun itself.... ;)

It should be something that is easy to remember like SS2, AK, M 16

Saif is easy to understand as well but it will make people confused with previous Pindad Rifle which is SS-1, SS- 2

Please Mr President, dont use difficult name, it will be bad for the selling.........:partay:
 
What is important is that the motive on why we use the gun and who is the man behind the gun itself.... ;)

It should be something that is easy to remember like SS2, AK, M 16

Saif is easy to understand as well but it will make people confused with previous Pindad Rifle which is SS-1, SS- 2

Please Mr President, dont use difficult name, it will be bad for the selling.........:partay:
By the way post videos of Gun when they come
 
Once upon a time...
12508809_1668234140091427_509824842355491997_n.jpg



Upcoming Next Sea Trial KRI NALA 363....
Plus uji penembakan kanon 40 mm...

12507118_1018712911508609_2449118075838470314_n.jpg


946465_1018713048175262_6614417184605422503_n.jpg


12522948_1018713314841902_443505669606291929_n.jpg


10295699_1018713664841867_1760545551878353222_n.jpg
 
Last edited:
Gregetan bgt dah, Ayolah kapan Dealnya :D Duitnya ada dan calonnya juga.
------
Ryamizard menambahkan kementerian akan membeli pesawat tempur, kapal laut, dan membangun pelabuhan. Dia berharap setelah semua terealisasi dapat dipelihara dengan baik.

"Pesawat tua akan diganti, F5 jadi Sukhoi," katanya.

Ryamizard juga berharap masyarakat mendukung pertahanan negara lewat keikutsertaan dalam program bela negara.

"Sudah ada dananya, dan tentunya bersama rakyat akan semakin kuat, apalagi kalau didukung oleh alat yang modern," katanya.

Perkuat Wilayah Terluar, Kemhan Tingkatkan Belanja Alutsista
 
France Offers Indonesian Navy’s Diesel-Electric Sub New Combat System
French shipbuilder DCNS is offering a new combat system also used on board French nuclear submarines.

thediplomat_2015-01-06_12-04-00-36x36.jpg

By Franz-Stefan Gady
January 12, 2016
thediplomat_2016-01-11_15-50-03-386x257.jpg

The Indonesian submarine KRI Nanggala (402) participates in Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) Indonesia 2015
Image Credit: U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Alonzo M. Archer

The French defense contractor DCNS is offering Indonesia a new submarine combat management system in use aboard French nuclear submarines for one of the Indonesian Navy’s German-made Type 209/1300 diesel-electric attack submarines (known as Cakra-class in Indonesia), IHS Jane’s Navy International reports.

The new combat system has been specifically designed for the Indonesian Navy’s needs by DCNS subsidiary Underwater Defense System. According to IHS Jane’s:

Sources close to the TNI-AL [Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, the Indonesian Navy] told IHS Jane’s that the CMS, known as Submarine Tactical Integrated Combat System (SUBTICS), is being offered as part of DCNS’s proposal to carry out maintenance, repair, and overhaul (MRO) work on KRI Cakra (401). The TNI-AL is looking to extend the life of the 59.5 m German-built vessel to 2024 with the MRO.

The last time the Indonesian Navy received new submarines was in the 1980s with the delivery of two German-made Type 209/1300 diesel-electric Cakra-class attack submarines, the Cakra and its sister ship the Nanggala. Both vessels underwent several major refits modernizing the subs’ propulsion systems and detection and navigation systems, and adding new fire control and combat systems by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft (HDW) and South Korea’s Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME), which is building Type 209 variants under license.

The new French-made combat system for the Cakra-class “was designed to be integrated with a Thales sonar suite and Whitehead Alenia Sistemi Subacquei’s (WASS’) torpedoes and fire control system. However, the CMS features an open architecture and interface design that allows options from other manufacturers as well,” according to IHS Jane’s Navy International.

The move by DCNS could be part of an overall sales strategy to convince Indonesian defense officials to procure French-built Scorpene-class 1000 diesel-electric attack submarines for the Indonesian Navy.

As I reported previously (See: “Will Indonesia Buy French Stealth Submarines?”), Indonesian-French government-to-government talks over the procurement of diesel-electric attack submarines took place at last year’s Pacific International Maritime Exhibition. According to naval analysts, Indonesia will need at least six submarines to secure its key maritime straits (Malacca, Sunda and Lombok).

DCNS officials have been lobbying hard to convince Jakarta that the Scorpene-class 1000 diesel-electric attack submarine, with its ability to operate in shallow waters, is the ideal solution for Indonesia, given the country’s archipelagic geography.

Back in October, I also reported that the Indonesian government appears to be also interested in procuring a number of Russian-made Kilo-class attack submarines and is expecting a license-built variant of the German Type 209/1,300 sub:

In December 2011, DSME was awarded a contract for the construction of three 1,400-ton Chang Bogo-class (a license-built variant of the 209) diesel-electric attack submarines. The boats are expected to be delivered between 2015 and 2016 with a commissioning date set for the first half of 2018.

The Indonesian Navy has not made a decision on either of the French offers yet.

France Offers Indonesian Navy’s Diesel-Electric Sub New Combat System | The Diplomat
 
France Offers Indonesian Navy’s Diesel-Electric Sub New Combat System
French shipbuilder DCNS is offering a new combat system also used on board French nuclear submarines.

thediplomat_2015-01-06_12-04-00-36x36.jpg

By Franz-Stefan Gady
January 12, 2016
thediplomat_2016-01-11_15-50-03-386x257.jpg

The Indonesian submarine KRI Nanggala (402) participates in Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) Indonesia 2015
Image Credit: U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Alonzo M. Archer

The French defense contractor DCNS is offering Indonesia a new submarine combat management system in use aboard French nuclear submarines for one of the Indonesian Navy’s German-made Type 209/1300 diesel-electric attack submarines (known as Cakra-class in Indonesia), IHS Jane’s Navy International reports.

The new combat system has been specifically designed for the Indonesian Navy’s needs by DCNS subsidiary Underwater Defense System. According to IHS Jane’s:

Sources close to the TNI-AL [Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, the Indonesian Navy] told IHS Jane’s that the CMS, known as Submarine Tactical Integrated Combat System (SUBTICS), is being offered as part of DCNS’s proposal to carry out maintenance, repair, and overhaul (MRO) work on KRI Cakra (401). The TNI-AL is looking to extend the life of the 59.5 m German-built vessel to 2024 with the MRO.

The last time the Indonesian Navy received new submarines was in the 1980s with the delivery of two German-made Type 209/1300 diesel-electric Cakra-class attack submarines, the Cakra and its sister ship the Nanggala. Both vessels underwent several major refits modernizing the subs’ propulsion systems and detection and navigation systems, and adding new fire control and combat systems by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft (HDW) and South Korea’s Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME), which is building Type 209 variants under license.

The new French-made combat system for the Cakra-class “was designed to be integrated with a Thales sonar suite and Whitehead Alenia Sistemi Subacquei’s (WASS’) torpedoes and fire control system. However, the CMS features an open architecture and interface design that allows options from other manufacturers as well,” according to IHS Jane’s Navy International.

The move by DCNS could be part of an overall sales strategy to convince Indonesian defense officials to procure French-built Scorpene-class 1000 diesel-electric attack submarines for the Indonesian Navy.

As I reported previously (See: “Will Indonesia Buy French Stealth Submarines?”), Indonesian-French government-to-government talks over the procurement of diesel-electric attack submarines took place at last year’s Pacific International Maritime Exhibition. According to naval analysts, Indonesia will need at least six submarines to secure its key maritime straits (Malacca, Sunda and Lombok).

DCNS officials have been lobbying hard to convince Jakarta that the Scorpene-class 1000 diesel-electric attack submarine, with its ability to operate in shallow waters, is the ideal solution for Indonesia, given the country’s archipelagic geography.

Back in October, I also reported that the Indonesian government appears to be also interested in procuring a number of Russian-made Kilo-class attack submarines and is expecting a license-built variant of the German Type 209/1,300 sub:

In December 2011, DSME was awarded a contract for the construction of three 1,400-ton Chang Bogo-class (a license-built variant of the 209) diesel-electric attack submarines. The boats are expected to be delivered between 2015 and 2016 with a commissioning date set for the first half of 2018.

The Indonesian Navy has not made a decision on either of the French offers yet.

France Offers Indonesian Navy’s Diesel-Electric Sub New Combat System | The Diplomat

Denger2 yg dipilih pake CMS -nya Kongsberg Jerman bro

IF"X" kan nama prototype yak, nanti kl dah produksi namanya jadi "IF" (Indonesian Fighter) aja. Mungkin ada tambahan angka macam IF-22 atau IF-35
 
By the way your Air Force is really not big that is a known fact but what about your Air Defense Systems I have never heard about them
 
By the way your Air Force is really not big that is a known fact but what about your Air Defense Systems I have never heard about them
Our Air Force still at average comparison with all ASEAN country except Singapore that must have large airforce to compensate their situation as small country and Vietnam since they are face to face with China.
Same thing with Air Defense most ASEAN country use SHORAD missile except Singapore and Vietnam for the same reason above.
 
Denger2 yg dipilih pake CMS -nya Kongsberg Jerman bro


IF"X" kan nama prototype yak, nanti kl dah produksi namanya jadi "IF" (Indonesian Fighter) aja. Mungkin ada tambahan angka macam IF-22 atau IF-35
I prefer our fighter next will using "N" series, like N-22, N-35 or N-15 (double Digit):D
 
Denger2 yg dipilih pake CMS -nya Kongsberg Jerman bro


IF"X" kan nama prototype yak, nanti kl dah produksi namanya jadi "IF" (Indonesian Fighter) aja. Mungkin ada tambahan angka macam IF-22 atau IF-35

Kongsberg is a Norwegian's mas bro',,

Seingat saya dari awal project ini berjalan baik KF-X maupun IF-X rencananya akan diberi designasi F-33, sebagai kode bahwa pesawat ini nantinya berada satu level dibawah F-35.. Tapi gak tau juga apakah nantinya akan berubah..
 
Back
Top Bottom