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In term of long term planning I guess it is 20 frigate, even in the past this number has been come up from The Navy.

As for Today, from recent news it said that Navy wants to order another 2 frigates after the initial 2 finishes in 2017 (according to plan).

Step by step buddy as PT PAL (state owned enterprise) is the only one which is responsible on it. They currently only have 2 dock for frigate building. PT PAL is the only shipyard in Indonesia who has design capability for big vessel.

PT Lundin (private owned) on the other hands is very good in designing smaller vessel.
I am hearing good news again and again when it comes to Indonesian Navy.The news which I hear about your Air Force makes me laugh like only 16 SU-35 for Indonesian Air Force
 
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I am hearing good news again and again when it comes to Indonesian Navy.The news which I hear about your Air Force makes me laugh like only 16 SU-35 for Indonesian Air Force


Air Force want to add addition four to three squadron of fighter until 2024
 
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and now we are developing Midget Sub with Croatia. does this has something to do with "Diversity"?
Drakon 220 isn't a midget submarine since its over 150 tons... Croatian shipyards will deliver you bigger and superior submarines than what Iran can produce.
 
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Drakon 220 isn't a midget submarine since its over 150 tons... Croatian shipyards will deliver you bigger and superior submarines than what Iran can produce.

hmmm i want to know other recently designed Croatian military products are Croatian made some ATGM and RPG's?
 
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Drakon 220 isn't a midget submarine since its over 150 tons... Croatian shipyards will deliver you bigger and superior submarines than what Iran can produce.

150ton would be midget, compared to changbogo, 1400ton submarine we ordered from korea.
 
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Indonesian defense minister visits Chinese defense industries
Rabu, 14 Oktober 2015 21:05 WIB | 329 Views

Beijing (ANTARA News) - Indonesian Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu visited several Chinese defense industries on Wednesday morning as part of his visit to China that is aimed at forging defense cooperation between the two countries.

Ryamizard visited China North Industries Corporation (Norinco) that produces high-technology military and defense equipment and China National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC).

Indonesia and China have forged defense cooperation since they established a bilateral consultation forum in the defense field in 2007 as part of the strategic partnership declaration agreed upon on April 25, 2005. The two countries agreed to form a comprehensive partnership in October 2013.


As part of cooperation in the defense industry, the Indonesian Defense Ministry and the State Administration of Science, Technology and Industry for National Defence of the Peoples Republic of China (SASTIND) signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) on March 22, 2011.

The MoU covers the procurement of military equipment in certain fields based on government-to-government mechanism.

Under the MoU, they also agreed to transfer of technology for certain military equipment encompassing assembling, testing, maintenance, modification, upgrading, and training.

After visiting the Chinese defense industries, Ryamizard paid a courtesy visit to Deputy Chairman of the Central Military Committee Fan Changlong. He is also scheduled to hold talks with his Chinese counterpart Chang Wanquan on Thursday (Oct. 15).

While in China, he will also visit the Chinese Special Police Station and attend the China-ASEAN Defense Ministers Informal Meeting on October 15-16 and the sixth Xiangshan Forum on October 16-18.(*)

Indonesian defense minister visits Chinese defense industries - ANTARA News

@cnleio :cheers:

hope Indonesian can bought some artillery rockets and armored vehicles from China this time
 
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Indonesian defense minister visits Chinese defense industries
Rabu, 14 Oktober 2015 21:05 WIB | 329 Views

Beijing (ANTARA News) - Indonesian Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu visited several Chinese defense industries on Wednesday morning as part of his visit to China that is aimed at forging defense cooperation between the two countries.

Ryamizard visited China North Industries Corporation (Norinco) that produces high-technology military and defense equipment and China National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC).

Indonesia and China have forged defense cooperation since they established a bilateral consultation forum in the defense field in 2007 as part of the strategic partnership declaration agreed upon on April 25, 2005. The two countries agreed to form a comprehensive partnership in October 2013.


As part of cooperation in the defense industry, the Indonesian Defense Ministry and the State Administration of Science, Technology and Industry for National Defence of the Peoples Republic of China (SASTIND) signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) on March 22, 2011.

The MoU covers the procurement of military equipment in certain fields based on government-to-government mechanism.

Under the MoU, they also agreed to transfer of technology for certain military equipment encompassing assembling, testing, maintenance, modification, upgrading, and training.

After visiting the Chinese defense industries, Ryamizard paid a courtesy visit to Deputy Chairman of the Central Military Committee Fan Changlong. He is also scheduled to hold talks with his Chinese counterpart Chang Wanquan on Thursday (Oct. 15).

While in China, he will also visit the Chinese Special Police Station and attend the China-ASEAN Defense Ministers Informal Meeting on October 15-16 and the sixth Xiangshan Forum on October 16-18.(*)

Indonesian defense minister visits Chinese defense industries - ANTARA News

@cnleio :cheers:

hope Indonesian can bought some artillery rockets and armored vehicles from China this time
Indonesia can get all wants from China, many options from the Norinco ... especially welcome to join SAC FC-31 stealth fighter project. :-)
 
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Happy Holiday to my fellow Indonesian (1st Muharam holiday)
What I don't understand is you have build helicopter carrier on your own but never build a Frigate or Destroyer. That is strange
Its not Helicopter Carrier if you referring to LHD type but its only and LPD (Landing Platform Dock) way smaller than LHD bro, only about 10,000-11,000 tons.
 
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hmmm i want to know other recently designed Croatian military products are Croatian made some ATGM and RPG's?

Croatia produces multi use ATGM that fires 90 mm caliber rockets...

150ton would be midget, compared to changbogo, 1400ton submarine we ordered from korea.

Drakon 220 is a 220 ton submarine... Croatian shipyards has capability to produce 800 ton submarines...
 
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Drakon 220 is a 220 ton submarine... Croatian shipyards has capability to produce 800 ton submarines...

220 ton would still be considered as midget sub. In general we are looking to boost our submarine forces, to a minimum of 12 units. We have 2 upgraded 209 plus 3 improved changbogo subs ordered already. Today, we are looking to supplement our submarine forces with kilo sub from russia or 1000 ton scorpene, and midget subs.

3 changbogo subs from korea will be aquired together with transfer of technology. And the 3rd sub will be built by PT. PAL in Indonesia. We are currently building the submarine production facilities.

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Croatia produces multi use ATGM that fires 90 mm caliber rockets...



Drakon 220 is a 220 ton submarine... Croatian shipyards has capability to produce 800 ton submarines...


can you show us the great pics of them? i would appreciate it
 
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PT Pindad, PT LEN Industri to collaborate on vehicle comms systems

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Indonesian land systems specialist PT Pindad and defence electronics firm PT LEN Industri have agreed to jointly develop communications equipment for military vehicles.

A PT Pindad official confirmed to IHS Jane's on 14 October that the memorandum of understanding (MoU), signed recently in Bandung, centres on the two state-owned companies developing communications systems for PT Pindad's two main vehicle types: the 4x4 Komodo and 6x6 Anoa, both of which are manufactured in various configurations.

Specifications of the required communications system were not revealed but are likely to be based on existing PT LEN designs for land vehicles that feature technologies related to Voice-over IP (VoIP) and digital signal processing.

PT Pindad, PT LEN Industri to collaborate on vehicle comms systems - IHS Jane's 360

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Indonesian military visits PH Army in Maguindanao, exchange knowledge

By: Philippines News Agency
October 14, 2015 12:16 PM

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InterAksyon.com
The online news portal of TV5

CAMP SIONGCO, Maguindanao -- A contingent from Indonesian National Army or the Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angktan Darat (TNI-AD) on Tuesday paid a courtesy call to Maj. General Edmundo R. Pangilinan, commander of the 6th Infantry Division based in Maguindanao, as part of the Army reciprocal Personnel Exchange Program (PEP) of the Philippines and Indonesia.

Capt. Joann Petinglay, 6th ID spokesperson, said the PEP delegates was composed of Captain Agung Cahyono, Instructor at Infantry Training Center; Captain Arief Handoko Usman, Section Chief, Individual Training of Infantry Weaponry Center; First Lieutenant Rahmat Lin Suryana, Supporting Element, Headquarters Detachment of Infantry Weaponing Center; and Second Lieutenant Saryono, Supporting Element, Headquarters Detachment of Infantry Weaponing Center.

Upon their arrival at 6ID, military honors were rendered to the visiting contingents.

A detailed information briefing comprising the 6ID’s major accomplishments, operational matters, and best practices were shared following the arrival honors.

During their four-day visit, which ended today, the delegates shared their skills in a live firing demonstration and witnessed an exhibit on War Fighting Competency Training at 6th Division Training School of the Command.

To personally experience the training competency and facilities of 6th ID, they underwent the sit hip rappel, slide for life, mortar gunnery firing, 200-meter firing, and combat vehicle driving.

They also toured the training camp of 38th Infantry (Cadre) Battalion Training in Taviran, Datu Odin Sinsuat, Maguindanao.

The personnel of 6th ID also brought the contingent at some of the well-known tourist and adventure destinations in Mindanao.

The Indonesian Army toured Lake Sebu and Baras Bird Sanctuary in South Cotabato as well as the Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah Masjid in Cotabato City, which is considered the largest mosque in the Philippines.

The 11th Special Forces Company also hosted an airboat river tour along the stretch of Tamontaka River in Cotabato City which traverses the boundaries of Cotabato City and Maguindanao.

Petinglay said Captain Cahyono, who led the Indonesian Army contingent, lauded the 6th ID’s passion in bolstering the exchange program of both countries.

PEP is an srmy-to-army bilateral training activity between the Philippines and Indonesia which aims to exchange military expertise, for the participants to learn from each other and exchange knowledge on each Army’s organization, mission, training activities, and management.

Indonesian military visits PH Army in Maguindanao, exchange knowledge

US Soldier Reconnects With Indonesian Roots

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U.S. Army Capt. Michelle Sukardi Kania and Maj. Zulhamidi Lubis of the Indonesian air force during Exercise Gema Bhakti in Jakarta, Indonesia, Sept. 16, 2015. (U.S. Marine Corps/2nd Lt. Michael Maggitti)
Army.mil/News | Oct 13, 2015 | by Marine Corps 2nd Lt. Michael Maggitti


JAKARTA, Indonesia — Deploying to a country where 237 million inhabitants from more than 300 distinct native ethnic groups speak over 700 different languages sounds like a daunting mission.

For one U.S. soldier, however, navigating the Indonesian culture and understanding the local dialect is easier than it sounds.

U.S. Army Capt. Michelle Sukardi Kania, who grew up Jakarta, Indonesia, has returned home for the first time since childhood to participate in Exercise Gema Bhakti 2015.

more at US Soldier Reconnects With Indonesian Roots | Military.com
 
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House to discuss state defense issue with senior minister
Selasa, 13 Oktober 2015 19:11 WIB | 823 Views

Jakarta (ANTARA News) - House Speaker Setya Novanto will invite Chief Political, Legal and Security Minister Luhut Pandjaitan to seek an explanation on the discourse of his state defense program idea.

"We should not hurry to arrive at a conclusion on the polemics of the idea of the coordinating minister for political, legal and security affairs to introduce his state defense concept. We should first hear out his explanation, and we will summon him to discuss it," Novanto noted at the Parliament Building here on Tuesday.

He said if the state defense program had a good goal with regard to patriotism and dedication to the state and nation, the House will be ready to deliberate on it and its budget.

There has been a discourse that a state defense program will need a budget of Rp500 trillion. However, Novanto claimed to have not yet heard about it. In a meeting with Novanto on Monday, Pandjaitan did not make any mention of the program and its budget.

"I think Pak (Mr) Luhut Pandjaitan has not yet thought about such a large amount of budget, and he did not speak about the matter in yesterdays meeting when we discussed the handling of forest and land fires in the country," explained Novanto.

Deputy House Speaker Agus Hermanto has forecast that the amount of budget required for the development of a state defense program will be large, and thus, it should be studied before it is implemented.

Hermanto pointed out that the state defense program bore similarity to the conscription program and what differed was its intensity and curriculum.

"Once in the past, I had attended a state defense training program, and it was almost the same as the conscription program. What makes it different is its intensity and curriculum," Hermanto pointed out.

He affirmed that Indonesia also now needs to modernize its weaponry system, and so, the implementation of a state defense system, which needs a large amount of funds, was not yet timely.(*)

House to discuss state defense issue with senior minister - ANTARA News

i think if the money diverted into military modernization it will be a game changer in region
 
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