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According to former navy chief, we need 12 subs to guard our vast water

i think more than that number

12 is the most minimum vessels we are intend to operate

with the recent trend here and most of our naval planner thinking the use of submarine to disrupt enemies logistical line via Sea route especially considering the so called country who is built so many man made Islands and outpost in South China Sea, 12 number is the most minimum number to ensure the effectiveness of the tactics
 
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Old news from navyrecognition in 2014:

DCNS announces partnership with Indonesian shipyard PT Pal during Indo Defence 2014

At Indo Defence 2014, the international defence exhibition currently held in Jakarta, DCNS revealed it has signed a partnership with local shipyard PT Pal to co-develop future Indonesian Defence Vessels. As part of the agreement, the future vessels should be built in Indonesia and would include a high level of local industrial content, through Indonesian-French long term cooperation.

At Indo Defence 2014, the DCNS stand showcases:

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Scorpene 100 SSK scale model on DCNS stand at Indo Defence 2014

• The Scorpene 1000: a compact submarine specially designed to operate in coastal waters, a theatre of growing importance to all maritime nations. Being also a fearsome adversary in deep water, Scorpene 1000 combines a state-of-the-art design with stealth, agility and power. It is remarkably effective in any underwater role that a client navy may wish to assign to it.

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Subtics workstation on DCNS stand at Indo Defence 2014

• SUBTICS®: a combat management system that can be installed on any type of submarine. It combines long-range capabilities in all navigation conditions with powerful weapons (torpedoes, anti-ship missile, counter-measures, land-attack capability). As a fully-integrated system, all functions are operated from Multifunction Common Consoles and its open architecture and modularity guarantee that the system can be adapted to every type of submarines and configured according to operational requirements. It can also be upgraded during its lifetime to fulfil new missions and keep its operational superiority.

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Gowind 2500 scale model on DCNS stand at Indo Defence 2014

• The Gowind® 2500: a multi-mission corvette (100 metres, over 2,000 tonnes). A fully militarised platform, she has a comprehensive Mission Management System for full-scale multi-threat missions, including a complete ASW suite with towed array sonar and improved stealth and survivability.

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DCNS services as presented during Indo Defence 2014

• Services: DCNS offers a wide range of support services during the entire lifecycle of both surface ships and submarines. These services stretch from the simplest order of spare parts to the through-life support of complete fleet. On top of current support operations, DCNS can carry out modernisation and life extension programmes to maintain fleet availability at optimal cost. DCNS also offers a complete set of courses and solutions designed to train all levels of naval and industrial personnel, from the start of a project through decommissioning and/or dismantling. Finally, DCNS proposes services in naval bases and shipyards from the Design, Engineering, Construction, and Operation to the maintenance of these infrastructures. This global offer is designed to help navies to maintain and expand their self-sufficiency within technology transfer programmes.

I think it's a good news that our navy defence planner think smarter not to say for the regional balance but for defending our interest and our sovereignity from escalating tension in SCS.

If our ToT from Changbogo project run well-the plan to purchase Kilo class for ocean going mission and the plan for the Scorpene comes true, we can realize the minimum vessels we intend to operate. Maybe we can dream about the glorious moment in the past when we operate many subs.


 
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mehh... kd altantuya ke? kapal selam tak boleh tenggelam ek? bloody hell.
 
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Watch This Amphibious Assault Vehicle Leap Off A Pier Into The Water At High Speed

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It is not every day that you see a 30-ton armored amphibious assault vehicle launch off an elevated concrete pier at high speed into the water, but for the 70th anniversary of the Indonesian Armed Forces, this was apparently part of the spectacle.

The vehicle shown is the AAV-P7, also known as “Landing Vehicle, Tracked, Personnel-7” (LVTP-7). Often times they are just refereed to as AAVs or “Amtracks.” The AAV-P7 was originally designed and built by United Defense and is been used by the USMC and a dozen other marine arms from around the globe.

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The AAV-p7 carries a crew of up to four plus up to 25 troops internally, depending on the variant. It is usually equipped with a 40mm grenade launcher and a .50 caliber m2 machine gun. Upgraded variants are equipped with smoke grenades and can burn their fuel to create a smokescreen. The AAV-P7 has a range of around 300 miles on land and 20 miles while “swimming” through the water, during which it can handle up to sea-state five, although it would not be pretty inside.

Most famously, many U.S. Marines pushed their way through Iraq in Amtracks, the results of which were controversial. The vehicles, although they could wade through rivers, gave much less protection to its crew and soldiers inside than the M2 Bradley used by the Army. Still, comparing the two vehicles is not exactly fair, as the AAV-P7 could carry many more troops than the Bradley and it was meant for amphibious operations, not for traveling hundreds of miles inland during a sandy blitzkrieg. Since its introduction in the 1970s, the AAV-P7 also saw action in Argentina during the Falklands War, the first Gulf War and in Beirut, Grenada and Somalia.

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The USMC has rebuilt and greatly upgraded many AAV-p7s over the years as a replacement for them has never come to fruition. A new program called the Amphibious Combat Vehicle aims at correcting this. Still, even if the ACV makes it into production, Amtracks will be a central part of the UMSC’s inventory for decades to come. It will also continue to serve with various militaries around the world long after it leaves service with the Marines.

You know — come to think of it, the Amtrack could be the ultimate ship-to-shore tender for the super-yacht owning mega-rich. Just turn the AAV’s interior into a VIP lounge and give it a nice paint job and oligarchs would have the safest, most flexible way to visit shores around the globe.

Bottom line, the Amtrack is one versatile vehicle.

 
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Lockheed Martin is in discussions with Indonesia over a potential sale of the F-16V Fighting Falcon, a company spokesperson confirmed to IHS Jane's on 9 October.

The spokesperson was speaking one day after Lockheed Martin displayed a cockpit demonstrator of the F-16V in Jakarta to promote the aircraft to meet air combat capability requirements in the Indonesian Air Force (TNI-AU).

"We are currently in discussion with the [Indonesian] government on the F-16V and ran the event to provide an understanding of its capabilities on Wednesday," said the spokesperson.

In a press release to accompany the event Lockheed Martin said the F-16V offers Indonesia the "most advanced 4th generation capability" including Scalable Agile Beam Radar and enhancements to the aircraft's mission computer, vehicle systems, aircraft structure, cockpit and electronic warfare system.

Lockheed Martin discussing F-16V deal with Indonesia - IHS Jane's 360
 
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i'm optimist with rupiah strengthening trend, we can secure most of our procurement plan this year.
 
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i'm optimist with rupiah strengthening trend, we can secure most of our procurement plan this year.

i just hope we can hit our 10 billion US dollar defense spending landmark next year, with the current plan to add another 35 trillion rupiah to already 95 trillion defense budget we can hit the scores, and beat the Singkies for the first time since 90's decade
 
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i'm optimist with rupiah strengthening trend, we can secure most of our procurement plan this year.

i just hope we can hit our 10 billion US dollar defense spending landmark next year, with the current plan to add another 35 trillion rupiah to already 95 trillion defense budget we can hit the scores, and beat the Singkies for the first time since 90's decade

Too strong is not good either. I think it will get strengthening further and after that weakening again and stay at Rp 13.000 per USD, it is quite good position. Government has to make sure that all of the oil refinery project is really starting. This will make a good sentiment that we will save huge USD deposit in the long term. Good energy policy like never lowering the price of oil and if necessary make it more expensive is also another key, since we need to make our people use mass transportation instead of cars or motorcycles. As a net oil importer, it is a necessary policy in relation into our currency strength.
 
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Too strong is not good either. I think it will get strengthening further and after that weakening again and stay at Rp 13.000 per USD, it is quite good position. Government has to make sure that all of the oil refinery project is really starting. This will make a good sentiment that we will save huge USD deposit in the long term. Good energy policy like never lowering the price of oil and if necessary make it more expensive is also another key, since we need to make our people use mass transportation instead of cars or motorcycles. As a net oil importer, it is a necessary policy in relation into our currency strength.

A good point for Rupiah is lying around 10.000 to 11.000 rupiah, more than that is quite a burden for most of real sector in Indonesia who still importing machinery from aboard to start their production line and oil to run their project

BTW the latest pic of our newly delivered Caracal, credit to ijal lubis

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@Nihonjin1051 a cool video about our Navy
 
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had been confirmed Indonesian Air Force is ready to bought a squadron of C-130J Hercules

Better to use Airbus product in my opinion. TOT and offset will not be significant and we must be ready for another military embargo.
 
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Better to use Airbus product in my opinion. TOT and offset will not be significant and we must be ready for another military embargo.

The selection of C-130J aircraft is a good option and a very logical decision I think, when compared with other candidates. In addition because of the commonality in terms of operational characteristics with our current inventory, so it can be more easier for our crew members in the transition to the C-130J series. Also, this family Hercules aircraft has had a great track record and has already been proven in running such various operations rather than the Airbus A400M product which is still struggling with technical problems..

And for the embargo issue, IF the US finnaly impose sanctions on Indonesia, we'll still can be affected even if we choose the A400M. Because any sanctions policy issued by the US then it would be affected to all the products that we buy from the west, unless if we buy it from Russia. So what the difference?? :)

But sure its only a big "IF". Although the risk is still there, but I think is highly unlikely to happen with the current political atmosphere in Indonesia now which is far more stable than '99,, Sir.. :)
 
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Better to use Airbus product in my opinion. TOT and offset will not be significant and we must be ready for another military embargo.
ToT? How many dozens does Indonesia want?
Even the EU imposed an embargo simultaneously with the US. You'd still have to prepare for sanctions with Airbus. A400M is of course far less numerous than C-130 and getting 2nd hand black market spares would be impossible. Given Obama's pivot to Asia, unless Indonesia has some more crazy left to do, it should be fine.
 
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