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[Nike]

Can someone please explain why Prabowo is so reluctant with buying newer models of the F-16 but with the
T R A N C H E O N E Eurofighters he's absolutely on board with the idea?

Is it because of the delivery time or what? I honestly can't understand why this option was even brought up...

If you see,there is interim programme to fill the blank ob the glaring number of platform we are lacking on number of several main platform which taking longer time to be build and starting operational, this including Warships and Fighter. The interim programme for fighter mention the number not stopped at one squadron only.


For F16V , that's other whole matter actually. The offer will be competed actually against Rafale.

 

[joesatriyono]

Can someone please explain why Prabowo is so reluctant with buying newer models of the F-16 but with the
T R A N C H E O N E Eurofighters he's absolutely on board with the idea?

Is it because of the delivery time or what? I honestly can't understand why this option was even brought up...

because it's procurement to replace F-5 remember? the sqn that retired freaking 5 years ago and still mbulet up until now. you don't replace interceptor sqn with multirole aircraft. but if you big fans and really want viper, don't worry

Hawk TNI AU Kemungkinan Diganti F-16V, Skadron Tempur Baru Akan Dibentuk di Kupang

TNI Angkatan Udara telah merencanakan penggantian pesawat tempur taktis Hawk 100/200 yang kini masih dioperasikan oleh Skadron Udara 1 Lanud Supadio di Pontianak dan Skadron Udara 12 Lanud Roesmin Nurjadin di Pekanbaru.

www.airspace-review.com

 

[wahyusurya2020]

Can someone please explain why Prabowo is so reluctant with buying newer models of the F-16 but with the
T R A N C H E O N E Eurofighters he's absolutely on board with the idea?

Is it because of the delivery time or what? I honestly can't understand why this option was even brought up...

procuring Eurofighters from Austria to pursue the fulfillment of the MEF target which the previous defense minister also had not achieved.
reluctance to buy F 16 V because Ausie and SG already have F 35 or have planned it, so we also bought f 35 to balance it, so Pak Luhut also hoped that we were allowed F 35 during a meeting with the Acting Under Sectretary of Defense for Policy US Department of Defense James Anderson

 

[umigami]

because it's procurement to replace F-5 remember? the sqn that retired freaking 5 years ago and still mbulet up until now. you don't replace interceptor sqn with multirole aircraft. but if you big fans and really want viper, don't worry

Hawk TNI AU Kemungkinan Diganti F-16V, Skadron Tempur Baru Akan Dibentuk di Kupang

TNI Angkatan Udara telah merencanakan penggantian pesawat tempur taktis Hawk 100/200 yang kini masih dioperasikan oleh Skadron Udara 1 Lanud Supadio di Pontianak dan Skadron Udara 12 Lanud Roesmin Nurjadin di Pekanbaru.

www.airspace-review.com

@Nike and AH said hawk will still fly for TNI for decades to come.

 

[Nike]

Karpet Merah' Austria untuk Prabowo Borong Eurofighter
Muhammad Iqbal, CNBC Indonesia
NEWS

21 October 2020 06:00
1. 'Karpet Merah' Austria untuk Prabowo Borong Eurofighter 2. Keinginan Prabowo 3. Kritik oposisi di Austria 4. Dinilai tidak realistis

Foto: Pertemuan antara Menteri Pertahanan RI Letnan Jenderal TNI (Purn) Prabowo Subianto dan Menteri Pertahanan Austria Klaudia Tanner (Dokumentasi Kementerian Pertahanan Austria via Kronen Zeitung)

Jakarta, CNBC Indonesia - Rangkaian kunjungan kerja Menteri Pertahanan Republik Indonesia Letnan Jenderal TNI (Purn) Prabowo Subianto ke sejumlah negara masih terus berlanjut. Kemarin, Prabowo menemui Menteri Pertahanan Republik Austria Klaudia Tanner di kantor Kementerian Pertahanan Austria di Wina, Austria, Selasa (20/10/2020) waktu setempat.

Pertemuan Tanner dan Prabowo bertujuan membicarakan rencana penjualan 15 unit jet tempur Eurofighter Typhoon milik Austria. Seperti dilaporkan media terkemuka Austria Kronen Zeitung, pertemuan pada Selasa (20/10/2020) pagi diawali oleh penghormatan militer dari militer Austria kepada Prabowo. Kemudian dilakukan pembicaraan terkait 15 unit jet tempur Eurofighter Typhoon.

Baca: Prabowo Mulai Nego Awal 15 Eurofighter Austria, Diterima?

"Hari saya dapat berbicara secara langsung dengan counterpart saya asal Indonesia untuk pertama kali. Kami membicarakan ketertarikan (Indonesia) membeli Eurofighter yang kami miliki," ujar Tanner.

"Ini merupakan titik awal untuk diskusi permulaan dalam level teknis," lanjutnya.

Di sisi lain, tidak ada pernyataan resmi dari Juru Bicara Menhan RI, Dahnil Anzar Simanjuntak, terkait pertemuan antara Prabowo dan Tanner. CNBC Indonesia pun telah mencoba mengonfirmasi Dubes RI untuk Austria Darmansjah Jumala perihal persamuhan itu. Ia berjanji akan segera mengirimkan rilis pers terkait momen tersebut.


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'Karpet Merah' Austria untuk Prabowo Borong Eurofighter

Menteri Pertahanan Austria Klaudia Tanner menyatakan pertemuan ini merupakan titik awal.

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From the news itself, it seems Austrian very eager to dump the Typhoon to Indonesia

 

[Nike]

New APC fleets for Brimob

https://t.tiktok.com/i18n/share/vid...lient_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=sms

 

[¿Por qué?]

So if everything goes to Prabowo's plan, we'd have this :

Sq.1 Pontianak : Hawk
Sq.3 Madiun : F-16 EDA
Sq.11 Makassar : Rafale (Sukhoi will be phased out)
Sq.12 Pekanbaru : Hawk
Sq.14 Madiun : EF Typhoon
Sq.15 Madiun : T-50
Sq.16 Pekanbaru : F-16 EDA

Sq.3 & 16 will still fly F-16 for years/decades to come.

Sq.1 & 12 will still fly Hawk probably until 2030. After that it's everybody's guess. F-16V, Rafale, EF T3, F-35, etc.

I believe TNI-AU also had plan to build another fighter squadron in Eastern Indonesia.

 

[umigami]

So if everything goes to Prabowo's plan, we'd have this :

Sq.1 Pontianak : Hawk
Sq.3 Madiun : F-16 EDA
Sq.11 Makassar : Rafale (Sukhoi will be phased out)
Sq.12 Pekanbaru : Hawk
Sq.14 Madiun : EF Typhoon
Sq.15 Madiun : T-50
Sq.16 Pekanbaru : F-16 EDA

Sq.3 & 16 will still fly F-16 for years/decades to come.

Sq.1 & 12 will still fly Hawk probably until 2030. After that it's everybody's guess. F-16V, Rafale, EF T3, F-35, etc.

I believe TNI-AU also had plan to build another fighter squadron in Eastern Indonesia.

No no no...
There is no way we will operate Rafale and Typhoon at the same time!
Kayak kebanyakan duit aja!

I think our new procurement worth 3 skadron fighter either EF+Viper or Rafale+Viper or full Rafale.

Operating new species of Fighter will most likely make Flanker operational drop significantly and force us to withdraw it from operational status early.

 

[Aghost132483]

New APC fleets for Brimob

https://t.tiktok.com/i18n/share/video/6885620912863988993/?_d=secCgsIARCbDRgBIAMoARI+CjzVN46sBFL9ygC/rkxMA7Sdjoz1V06bJ3DPX6qUinuIY8ZEClTg4pKISsTxcaWxNhuGlSWBXFvANMqzoiwaAA==&language=en&mid=6853248745522350850&preview_pb=0&region=ID&sec_user_id=MS4wLjABAAAAqMpJAg3GcfKGlQcvnP83xtKt4Op0WPQ82JCgTuOWxW3UFmzGl4OTXFCMumxLUhgm&share_app_name=musically&share_item_id=6885620912863988993&share_link_id=0dc298c5-556f-4af1-9485-f710889fe0a4&timestamp=1603208857&u_code=df4h86l49cel10&user_id=6885722512618816517&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=sms

Is it P2 APC from PT Surya Sentra Ekajaya, or another imported stuff?

 

[NEKONEKO]

So if everything goes to Prabowo's plan, we'd have this :

Sq.1 Pontianak : Hawk
Sq.3 Madiun : F-16 EDA
Sq.11 Makassar : Rafale (Sukhoi will be phased out)
Sq.12 Pekanbaru : Hawk
Sq.14 Madiun : EF Typhoon
Sq.15 Madiun : T-50
Sq.16 Pekanbaru : F-16 EDA

Sq.3 & 16 will still fly F-16 for years/decades to come.

Sq.1 & 12 will still fly Hawk probably until 2030. After that it's everybody's guess. F-16V, Rafale, EF T3, F-35, etc.

I believe TNI-AU also had plan to build another fighter squadron in Eastern Indonesia.

Questionable.

 

[¿Por qué?]

No no no...
There is no way we will operate Rafale and Typhoon at the same time!
Kayak kebanyakan duit aja!

The airframe of those 15 Austrian EF Typhoon can still last for decades. Are you seriously saying that we'll wait until the EF Typhoon phased out before we're ordering Rafale?

 

[Chestnut]

The airframe of those 15 Austrian EF Typhoon can still last for decades. Are you seriously saying that we'll wait until the EF Typhoon phased out before we're ordering Rafale?

We don't have money to introduce 2 platforms AND maintain the F-16's.

 

[Raduga]

Is it P2 APC from PT Surya Sentra Ekajaya, or another imported stuff?

korean daejicar promoter 4x4 apc .

i dont like this kind of procurement at all to be honest ......

 

[umigami]

The airframe of those 15 Austrian EF Typhoon can still last for decades. Are you seriously saying that we'll wait until the EF Typhoon phased out before we're ordering Rafale?

We have to choose! Not both!

 

[wahyusurya2020]

So if everything goes to Prabowo's plan, we'd have this :

Sq.1 Pontianak : Hawk
Sq.3 Madiun : F-16 EDA
Sq.11 Makassar : Rafale (Sukhoi will be phased out)
Sq.12 Pekanbaru : Hawk
Sq.14 Madiun : EF Typhoon
Sq.15 Madiun : T-50
Sq.16 Pekanbaru : F-16 EDA

Sq.3 & 16 will still fly F-16 for years/decades to come.

Sq.1 & 12 will still fly Hawk probably until 2030. After that it's everybody's guess. F-16V, Rafale, EF T3, F-35, etc.

I believe TNI-AU also had plan to build another fighter squadron in Eastern Indonesia.

if it happens will be the showroom Airforce