Indo-Pak ties: Who will end up on the losing side?

[GURU DUTT]

It is not just India and Pakistan that will loose.

The whole WORLD will loose.

Both being adjacent , agricultural economies just cannot tolerate a nuclear fallout.
Both are dependent on rivers,
Both have water scarcity problems
Both have huge populations, that are growing still

Make a nuclear strike, one country per strike, and even the fallout from that is impossible.
The resultant contamination will leave both countries useless. Causing economic blackout and a humanitarian disaster
which will impact central asia, as well as Middle east and far east.
None of which can absorb the shock waves and will crumble.

As a test case, take punjab ( eastern and western) out of economic equation, and see how both the countries will start collapsing in a few months just due to food shortages.

birader azeez no one is going to loose but those punjabi arab genrrails whose dana pani works on this indo pak hostility as under no circunstances from now on there wont be any INDO -PAK WAR PERIOD but

India is "NOT "going to "TALK" with Pakistan or keep relations with Pakistan the way they always were they will in time will tricel down to almost nill mark my words those who want to meet ther relatives would have to come to wagah toursists zones to meet them in future and thats it no more visas to any pakistanies the way things are going please dont take it as im war mongring or makinking absurt claims

so and the economic scales will keep growing and a point will come pakistani side will loose its relevence not just to india but to nations like bangladesh and even afghanistan and iran in near future keep watching im not joking and you know it SIR and have a great day and if i have said saoeming wrong please do tell me and care to corect me with logic

 

[Sinnerman108]

birader azeez no one is going to loose but those punjabi arab genrrails whose dana pani works on this indo pak hostility as under no circunstances from now on there wont be any INDO -PAK WAR PERIOD but

India is "NOT "going to "TALK" with Pakistan or keep relations with Pakistan the way they always were they will in time will tricel down to almost nill mark my words those who want to meet ther relatives would have to come to wagah toursists zones to meet them in future and thats it no more visas to any pakistanies the way things are going please dont take it as im war mongring or makinking absurt claims

so and the economic scales will keep growing and a point will come pakistani side will loose its relevence not just to india but to nations like bangladesh and even afghanistan and iran in near future keep watching im not joking and you know it SIR and have a great day and if i have said saoeming wrong please do tell me and care to corect me with logic

You need to think a little more broadly.

Pakistan and India are not the center of the world;
we are a consumer market to the world. Those who are sellers will do everything to keep it that way.

anyway I doubt i can reason with you.

 

[[Bregs]]

i personally feel Imran khan must be given one chance too after seeing the work of PPP and NS by pakistanis

 

[Fledgingwings]

maybe but pakistan will never have a soul or land to hold on to.. keep that in mind, India can take a hit and survive but not pakistan

And what makes you say that?

It,ll be Hell on both sides.

 

[GURU DUTT]

You need to think a little more broadly.

Pakistan and India are not the center of the world;
we are a consumer market to the world. Those who are sellers will do everything to keep it that way.

anyway I doubt i can reason with you.

well we are making most of what we need only high end electricals and defnce needs are imported medicens , food items clothing books mostly we make them all educational aids iron and steel we have skilled labour and right working envoirment and best of all eager english skeang work force which MNCs need to work in the factories which they are setting up in horedes in indian mega industrial corridoars connecting all major metros and ports with each other with dedicated fright corridoars and water and elictriscty genrating units and all this is excluding infra which is already inplace

ppint is we are not just a buyres market with a great forien policy and foriegn house and and a great lobbiest in USA what your ISPR fed media tries to potray or your people beleve there are more reasons why despite all fixatiosn China-Japan , Iran-Irsael-GCC staes, USA-Russia , Germany-France-UK or all such legacy opposing power blocks are working and investing with us

hey would not have invested hard earned billions of dollars with us if they think we are a loosing side @Sinnerman108 would they

 

[Jacob Martin]

Thus far India is the lone loser. There is nothing which Pakistan is losing because of Indian madness. Infect our economy doesn't depend on India (or trade through it) but reverse of that is true. India's eastern side has smaller countries and miniscule economies which are already saturated with Indian content. If India would ever expand, it would be because it grows its trade westwards West or North which is not possible as it is bad terms with Pakistan and China.

On geopolitics, again, India is standing alone. On Kashmir, intentionally and externally, they are are loser. Pakistan can sit with the same situation and what would it lose? But for India, it is feeling heat of CPEC and Kashmir everyday more. Indian influence over Pakistan is down to a point that ,no military threat, no fake surgical strike, no parliamentary statement from India has any effect on Pakistan. Rather India's decade old terrorist who it used to control in Karachi, FATA and Baluchistan are dead, which is another reason why India is down to its last option of show of power at LOC.

If a war breaks out, 10 years battle hardened army will teach Indian army a lesson it would never forget. Muslims are waiting for GhazwatulHind as well, which will eventually eliminate Hindustaan the way it exists, liberate Kashmir and bring Indian ruler in Chians.

Don't listen to Muslim eschatology, go read your Gandhi.. he too predicted 4 wars with Pakistan but stopped short of telling results of 4th battle with Pakistan.

The rest of your post is a matter of personal opinion, to which you are definitely entitled. So I won't address that. However, I wonder how you reached the conclusion that status quo is in Pakistan's favour?

There is a singular claim of Kashmir, to which Pakistan has staked its relations with India. Kashmir is with us. You want it. That is the status quo. And that suits us fine. I think you are confusing yourself by equating the cost of holding on to Kashmir as the status quo. That is a cost we willingly absorb and will continue to do.

The ball has always been in Pakistan's court on this one, and will continue to remain so.

 

[Sinnerman108]

well we are making most of what we need only high end electricals and defnce needs are imported medicens , food items clothing books mostly we make them all educational aids iron and steel we have skilled labour and right working envoirment and best of all eager english skeang work force which MNCs need to work in the factories which they are setting up in horedes in indian mega industrial corridoars connecting all major metros and ports with each other with dedicated fright corridoars and water and elictriscty genrating units and all this is excluding infra which is already inplace

ppint is we are not just a buyres market with a great forien policy and foriegn house and and a great lobbiest in USA what your ISPR fed media tries to potray or your people beleve there are more reasons why despite all fixatiosn China-Japan , Iran-Irsael-GCC staes, USA-Russia , Germany-France-UK or all such legacy opposing power blocks are working and investing with us

hey would not have invested hard earned billions of dollars with us if they think we are a loosing side @Sinnerman108 would they

So they invest their money because they love you ? or they invest because they can make a profit out of it ?
and since you are a kid I must explain that for them to make a profit they money they take home > they money they invest.

After you solve above, then you can go on and ponder why would billions of dollars be pumped in if everything you need was being produced at home ?

 

[GURU DUTT]

So they invest their money because they love you ? or they invest because they can make a profit out of it ?
and since you are a kid I must explain that for them to make a profit they money they take home > they money they invest.

After you solve above, then you can go on and ponder why would billions of dollars be pumped in if everything you need was being produced at home ?

thats my point if your super hi intellegence guys think we are going to loose a war with you and south asia is going to ve vapourised with nuclear fire why would all internation firms or smart nations investing in India which is major part of "south asia" @Sinnerman108 ?

now thing is we do not beg for money as AID but we are doing diplomacy and making relation on mually benfical terms with them all so they can share profits cause onlt fools beleave that there is LOVE and Brother hood in ineternation diplomacy no sir there is no such thing as love or bortherly relations in diplomacy only thing that matters is or only glue that bonds two nations is mutually benefical terms hope you get it sir

now as for WAR with Pakistan well days of militarry war with Pakistan is all but over and what is happening in LOC or WB and few other sectors is what will keep happeneing and if things escalate india will use its a thurity and use all 36 acre feet of water allotted to it under IWT of which right now it has capacity only to utilise some 4.5 acre feet for elctristy that too in run up the river projects rest you can speculate yourself but make no mistake india is a responsible nation and will never do anything that goes against the world triteas it has already signed so to give pakistan a point to play victim card

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

I am very thankful to Mr Modi, under his (un) able leadership India will surely disintegrate. Modi is for India what Taliban was for Afghanistan

Yes we all sud be thankful to Mody of RSS who draw a strong clear wall between 2 nation theory.

 

[Vazir]

Not commenting on the several troll wars going on here, it is evident that who will lose.
Both governments will remain at an impasse. Both militaries shall keep going back and forth without any progress. Media of both sides will keep spreading propaganda, either with or without the governments' nudge. But the people, oh the people in both countries will lose. They will lose a portion of their income as more taxes will be required to power the military. They will lose lives as a result of terrorism powered by both sides. But most of all, they will lose hope for peace, and love for brothers across the border. That is, unless this madness stops.

 

[volatile]

We know we have to destroy all of india, every inch and alongside it all of hinduism

We are working towards that aim

Keep reminding our enemies we can do this

 

[Tom M]

well whats the point of living if you have been bombed into the stone age

like we have said countless times we may get destroyed or wiped out but we will make sure we will bomb you into the stoneage even if we dont wipe you out completely

And you think there is no way back from there ???? Japan and Germany are classic examples.

 

[graphican]

There is a singular claim of Kashmir, to which Pakistan has staked its relations with India. Kashmir is with us. You want it. That is the status quo. And that suits us fine. I think you are confusing yourself by equating the cost of holding on to Kashmir as the status quo. That is a cost we willingly absorb and will continue to do.

If you don't want to look at your wounds then why should I remind you about those. You can enjoy the way Kashmiris are treating your soldiers (and other Indians) while Pakistan will keep supporting them using the means possible.

You like it or not, Pakistan is at much ease with this kind of status quo in which one Indian camp is blown every few months.

 

[jermankill]

lol both sides won on each others on PDF now go sleep well all of u
every other day dick measuring contest .... we will do this we will do that we have this we got this
i mean seriously we don't have anything else to do then this dick measuring contest ?????

 

[Leviza]

India will be the main looser and they are not understanding it properly ..
Pakistan as in current geo political , does not have much to loose.

Indian on the other hand , everything to loose, they are claiming to over take British economy in coming years.. If they choose to start a war with Pakistan.. that will defiantly take india at least 50 years back..

Indian space program will also get a hit and from satellite launching country they will drop down... and they will loose alot.

USA also starting hitting indian IT sector by changing it H1B visa policies.

this is the long list , i am just highlighting what's sort of disaster they are heading towards