Indo-Pak Cooperation - Options

[Spectre]

Trade is a Necessity ; when their Textile factories dont have cotton they buy it from us

When we need onions ; we buy it

Cooperation is a MATTER of choice

In cooperation both sides must GAIN ie their knowledge and expertise must be ENHANCED

India will not gain anything even by Producing FILMS with Pakistan

Because our films have very high technical quality ( but poor stories )

And our film technicians LEARN from Hollywood people

That is why our films run there and THEIR Actors come here

Let China help them with Knowledge; Technology and expertise

Who is stopping them

Won't cooperation smoothen exist trade, remove middle-men and open newer areas like auto, IT and Pharma? Wont cooperation allow Bollywood to essentially increase their business by 20-30% seeing as Indian films and content are increasingly getting banned

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Won't cooperation smoothen exist trade, remove middle-men and open newer areas like auto, IT and Pharma? Wont cooperation allow Bollywood to essentially increase their business by 20-30% seeing as Indian films and content are increasingly getting banned

NO it will not benefit India

It will only benefit Pakistan

Pakistan HAS a HUGE trade deficit ; they cannot buy anything more than what they are doing

You must read a LOT about Pakistani economy ie their WEAKNESSES

In fact China is taking full advantage of their weaknesses

AND you are ADVISING Indians to strengthen India's enemy

Even Man mohan Singh DID NOT DO THAT

 

[Nicky G]

No one can destroy you from outside unless, ofc your own foundation are weak and crumbling. So please stop with this cheap *** ranting

Do read to learn - 'seeking to destroy'. Idiots seek to destroy what they can never actually achieve all the time. That doesnt mean one should subsidize them in their foolish misadventures.

Stop wasting my time and don't quote me without adequate understanding.

 

[ebrahym]

No You don't.

this is the map of countries who have either free or prefential trade with Pakistan
guess MFN gives this highlight

 

[Nilgiri]

this is the map of countries who have either free or prefential trade with Pakistan
guess MFN gives this highlight

Its very limited "preferential trade" given to India through a small basket of goods.

MFN is not granted by Pakistan to India.

http://thediplomat.com/2015/02/india-pakistan-the-curious-case-of-the-mfn-status/

 

[ebrahym]

MFN is not granted by Pakistan to India.

First of all any country is not bound to give you MFN only because they have given it you
but the thing is
it is indeed curious why Zardari did not do it
but Pakistan never intended to it was only the pressure of IMF
there were also calls for MFN to china but that did not happen either

Its very limited "preferential trade" given to India through a small basket of goods.

MFN is not granted by Pakistan to India.

http://thediplomat.com/2015/02/india-pakistan-the-curious-case-of-the-mfn-status/

just asking
went on google regarding the MFN status just now
it says india has given it to only Bangladesh and Vietnam

 

[Nilgiri]

First of all any country is not bound to give you MFN only because they have given it you
but the thing is
it is indeed curious why Zardari did not do it
but Pakistan never intended to it was only the pressure of IMF
there were also calls for MFN to china but that did not happen either


just asking
went on google regarding the MFN status just now
it says india has given it to only Bangladesh and Vietnam

Check full list here:

https://aric.adb.org/fta-country

MFN and FTA are not equivalent.

Heck we have a full integrated customs union with Nepal and Bhutan for example.

 

[Spectre]

First of all any country is not bound to give you MFN only because they have given it you
but the thing is
it is indeed curious why Zardari did not do it
but Pakistan never intended to it was only the pressure of IMF
there were also calls for MFN to china but that did not happen either


just asking
went on google regarding the MFN status just now
it says india has given it to only Bangladesh and Vietnam

MFN basically means I wont treat you worse than I treat others. Thats it.

FTA agreement indicates free movement of goods and services barring some caveats which are covered in agreement.

 

[ebrahym]

MFN and FTA are not equivalent.

Heck we have a full integrated customs union with Nepal and Bhutan for example.

i was talking about Indian MFN to Pakistan
it says India gives MFN to Vietnam and Bangladesh only

MFN basically means I wont treat you worse than I treat others. Thats it.

FTA agreement indicates free movement of goods and services barring some caveats which are covered in agreement.

yes thats it
better to have an FTA than a MFN
MFN is between small countries and large countries
Pakistan although not as large as India is also not as small as Bangladesh
but vietnam is quite large

 

[Nilgiri]

i was talking about Indian MFN to Pakistan
it says India gives MFN to Vietnam and Bangladesh only

It was given by India to Pakistan in 1996

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...nt-mfn-status-to-india-yet/article7903550.ece

India granted the MFN status to Pakistan in 1996 but Pakistan is yet to reciprocate.

 

[ito]

1. Media and Entertainment - Is least controversial one. Cooperation possible and I guess is already happening.
2. Governance and Democracy - ???
3. Space Applications - A big no as space has military applications
4. Sports - Possible, but in Indian sub continent sports and politics are intertwined
5. Agricultural Research - Again a big no.
6. Common Markets - Pakistan will be reluctant as local industries can suffer a lot under Indian onslaught
7. IT - India will be reluctant to give space to Pakistan in IT.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Cooperation in varied fields sounds good on paper and can be done if we have at least neutral relationship. But when two parties are at each others throat and hell bent on harming each other then so called cooperation is next to impossible

 

[CBU-105]

entertainment and sports, nothing else.

 

[ebrahym]

India granted the MFN status to Pakistan in 1996 but Pakistan is yet to reciprocate.

so if it was a mutual agreement to be
and Pakistan never conceded it
then it means MFN status never was implemented?????
but still it shows Pakistan and India do have some preferential trade already going on
nevertheless hope for the best , prepare for the worst
hope Dispute resolves
than no one will have to speculate about possible trade as it will be a necessary trade

 

[Nilgiri]

so if it was a mutual agreement to be
and Pakistan never conceded it
then it means MFN status never was implemented?????
but still it shows Pakistan and India do have some preferential trade already going on
nevertheless hope for the best , prepare for the worst
hope Dispute resolves
than no one will have to speculate about possible trade as it will be a necessary trade

Basically India has given the commitment that Pakistan wont be treated any differently to another country (under SAARC agreement)....but Pakistan has not reciprocated and maintains a small basket of items that can be traded with India normally.

Everything else (mostly from India to Pakistan) is routed through UAE and payment often channeled through hawala sometimes too.

So yes as Musharraf said....you can't clap with one hand. For MFN to work, Pakistan must reciprocate.

From an MFN, one can eventually work a proper FTA....India is a huge market and Pakistan can benefit a lot in the long run....but it needs Pakistan to open up her own market to India as well.....but politics, fear and protectionism gets in the way.