What would have happened if we did not enter the picture in 1971??? What would have happened if we sent back some ten million refugees??
Rag tag cadre of mukti bahini would not have been able to contain tide of refugees pouring from E. Pakistan into India. they were contributing to the exodus because they were waging a war. They were not in position to take care of their needs because they had no institutional frame work in place. It would have been tragedy of epic proportion.
Pakistan would have had opportunity to send backups and ammunition through sea and air. There would have been more deaths and mayhem and wanton destruction of your property.
Indian contribution for BD liberation:
Indian public contributed their time and money to feed and shelter the refugees. Many of the families were given shelter in their own homes.They saw first hand the atrocities committed by Pakistani army and saw the need to teach them a lesson. They raised funds for war effort. Indian leaders got into the act and started supporting MB financially and morally.
India did all the legwork to garner world sympathy. We persuaded the world leaders to back us up in case of war.
While you guy were fighting to contain Pakistani troops in your neighborhoods, our Indian air force and Navy was containing Pakistan navy and air force.
We handled both western and eastern fronts and made both Pakistan air force and navy ineffective.
When we finally advanced into your country we pretty much sealed the fate of retreating Pakistani army who were already low in ammunition and moral. They were totally cut off and could not go on fighting and had to surrender. It was a win win situation for both of us. We were successful in breaking up Pakistan into two with much needed contribution from MB and you guys got what you were demanding, your own country.
1. You have a very hazy idea about what you are talking about.
a. The refugees were 100% Hindus. As such there was a tremendous pressure on GOI from Tripura, W Bengal and Indians in general to assist them. It was not that India was footing the bill; the world community, UNHCR, etc were doing that mostly.
b. India's masters, the Soviets had been approached by our Communist leaders, Moni Singh and Muzaffar Ahmed for assistance. And they in turn asked India to be on our side.
c. The bulk of the weapons we used were Czechoslovakian or from Eastern Bloc, not Indian.
d. Yes, many Indians contributed funds and helped in raising this - like late Nawab Patuadi and his Begum Sharmila Thakur. Like the Beetles. Like Pandit Ravi Shankar. Like Johnstnehoue, British MP, etc.
2. This was a golden opportunity for India to break-up Pakistan, and Indira Gandhi did not loose that opportunity. In fact, many say India had a hand in creating differences / suspicions between the two wings leading to 1971 War.
3. After the pathetic and miserable performance of IA in 1962, Ran of Kutch and 1965, Indian military was looking for an opportunity to redeem itself. It was too easy for Manekshaw to steal victory from us.
4. You forget Mukti Bahini was led by professional officers of ex-PA. IA officers were no patch on them in terms of professionalism. We worked out our own strategy working under huge adversity. For instance, we didn't have any weapons of our own except SAs that we carried when defecting. Indians ensured we received only SAs from the Eastern bloc. Our communication sets were confiscated by Indians and we had to make do with IA wireless operators provided during ops. We were not allowed to organize any Intel.
5. By and large, as of Sep '71, PA troops had realized that they were fighting a wrong war for all the wrong reasons. Gross indiscipline and immorality at the higher level totally broke the morale factor. Satisfactory logistics was impossible to maintain. Pakistan's treasury had become empty. Diplomatically Pakistan was isolated. Sensible Pakistanis like Asghar Khan and others were speaking out against the war on own population. Cases were reported where officers were refusing to obey unlawful orders like killing civilians. Even USA,China and Iran were asking for an end to the war.
6. By Sep PA troops had become too dispersed to be of any use for set battles. Isolated outlets, even commanded by NCOs, became easy prey for us. The total population of BD was helping us in one way or the other. Even many Razakars were quick to come over to our side whenever they got a break. Civil functionaries, apparently pro-Pak, were mostly working for us. Only a small marginal population belonging to Jam'at, ML, PDP and N e I, and Urdu speaking people were supporting Pakistan. On the other hand, almost the entire 10 mlln Hindus who had fled into India, refused to take up arms for our cause.
7. As such it is no wonder that the final conventional phase push did not find much opposition. Hili was one exception. We hardly fired a bullet till reaching Daudkandi near Dhaka from the east. Similar was the situation in the north where Kader Siddiqui was dominating the area. Jessore fell the first day. All this was due to our guerrilla activities.
8. Osmani was to launch his attack all by himself at the onset of the next monsoon - that is in another 6 months. We had already organized 3 X Bdes. By that time another 3 would have been added.
9. FYI, Osmani had also drawn up various contingencies. One of them was an Indo-Pak understanding sacrificing our cause.
10. In short, we had realized then and know it fully well now, that Indians are insincere, unreliable who would stab us in the back given an opportunity.
What would have happened if we did not enter the picture in 1971??? What would have happened if we sent back some ten million refugees??
Rag tag cadre of mukti bahini would not have been able to contain tide of refugees pouring from E. Pakistan into India. they were contributing to the exodus because they were waging a war. They were not in position to take care of their needs because they had no institutional frame work in place. It would have been tragedy of epic proportion.
Pakistan would have had opportunity to send backups and ammunition through sea and air. There would have been more deaths and mayhem and wanton destruction of your property.
Indian contribution for BD liberation:
Indian public contributed their time and money to feed and shelter the refugees. Many of the families were given shelter in their own homes.They saw first hand the atrocities committed by Pakistani army and saw the need to teach them a lesson. They raised funds for war effort. Indian leaders got into the act and started supporting MB financially and morally.
India did all the legwork to garner world sympathy. We persuaded the world leaders to back us up in case of war.
While you guy were fighting to contain Pakistani troops in your neighborhoods, our Indian air force and Navy was containing Pakistan navy and air force.
We handled both western and eastern fronts and made both Pakistan air force and navy ineffective.
When we finally advanced into your country we pretty much sealed the fate of retreating Pakistani army who were already low in ammunition and moral. They were totally cut off and could not go on fighting and had to surrender. It was a win win situation for both of us. We were successful in breaking up Pakistan into two with much needed contribution from MB and you guys got what you were demanding, your own country.
1. You have a very hazy idea about what you are talking about.
a. The refugees were 100% Hindus. As such there was a tremendous pressure on GOI from Tripura, W Bengal and Indians in general to assist them. It was not that India was footing the bill; the world community, UNHCR, etc were doing that mostly.
b. India's masters, the Soviets had been approached by our Communist leaders, Moni Singh and Muzaffar Ahmed for assistance. And they in turn asked India to be on our side.
c. The bulk of the weapons we used were Czechoslovakian or from Eastern Bloc, not Indian.
d. Yes, many Indians contributed funds and helped in raising this - like late Nawab Patuadi and his Begum Sharmila Thakur. Like the Beetles. Like Pandit Ravi Shankar. Like Johnstnehoue, British MP, etc.
2. This was a golden opportunity for India to break-up Pakistan, and Indira Gandhi did not loose that opportunity. In fact, many say India had a hand in creating differences / suspicions between the two wings leading to 1971 War.
3. After the pathetic and miserable performance of IA in 1962, Ran of Kutch and 1965, Indian military was looking for an opportunity to redeem itself. It was too easy for Manekshaw to steal victory from us.
4. You forget Mukti Bahini was led by professional officers of ex-PA. IA officers were no patch on them in terms of professionalism. We worked out our own strategy working under huge adversity. For instance, we didn't have any weapons of our own except SAs that we carried when defecting. Indians ensured we received only SAs from the Eastern bloc. Our communication sets were confiscated by Indians and we had to make do with IA wireless operators provided during ops. We were not allowed to organize any Intel.
5. By and large, as of Sep '71, PA troops had realized that they were fighting a wrong war for all the wrong reasons. Gross indiscipline and immorality at the higher level totally broke the morale factor. Satisfactory logistics was impossible to maintain. Pakistan's treasury had become empty. Diplomatically Pakistan was isolated. Sensible Pakistanis like Asghar Khan and others were speaking out against the war on own population. Cases were reported where officers were refusing to obey unlawful orders like killing civilians. Even USA,China and Iran were asking for an end to the war.
6. By Sep PA troops had become too dispersed to be of any use for set battles. Isolated outlets, even commanded by NCOs, became easy prey for us. The total population of BD was helping us in one way or the other. Even many Razakars were quick to come over to our side whenever they got a break. Civil functionaries, apparently pro-Pak, were mostly working for us. Only a small marginal population belonging to Jam'at, ML, PDP and N e I, and Urdu speaking people were supporting Pakistan. On the other hand, almost the entire 10 mlln Hindus who had fled into India, refused to take up arms for our cause.
7. As such it is no wonder that the final conventional phase push did not find much opposition. Hili was one exception. We hardly fired a bullet till reaching Daudkandi near Dhaka from the east. Similar was the situation in the north where Kader Siddiqui was dominating the area. Jessore fell the first day. All this was due to our guerrilla activities.
8. Osmani was to launch his attack all by himself at the onset of the next monsoon - that is in another 6 months. We had already organized 3 X Bdes. By that time another 3 would have been added.
9. FYI, Osmani had also drawn up various contingencies. One of them was an Indo-Pak understanding sacrificing our cause.
10. In short, we had realized then and know it fully well now, that Indians are insincere, unreliable who would stab us in the back given an opportunity.
What would have happened if we did not enter the picture in 1971??? What would have happened if we sent back some ten million refugees??
Rag tag cadre of mukti bahini would not have been able to contain tide of refugees pouring from E. Pakistan into India. they were contributing to the exodus because they were waging a war. They were not in position to take care of their needs because they had no institutional frame work in place. It would have been tragedy of epic proportion.
Pakistan would have had opportunity to send backups and ammunition through sea and air. There would have been more deaths and mayhem and wanton destruction of your property.
Indian contribution for BD liberation:
Indian public contributed their time and money to feed and shelter the refugees. Many of the families were given shelter in their own homes.They saw first hand the atrocities committed by Pakistani army and saw the need to teach them a lesson. They raised funds for war effort. Indian leaders got into the act and started supporting MB financially and morally.
India did all the legwork to garner world sympathy. We persuaded the world leaders to back us up in case of war.
While you guy were fighting to contain Pakistani troops in your neighborhoods, our Indian air force and Navy was containing Pakistan navy and air force.
We handled both western and eastern fronts and made both Pakistan air force and navy ineffective.
When we finally advanced into your country we pretty much sealed the fate of retreating Pakistani army who were already low in ammunition and moral. They were totally cut off and could not go on fighting and had to surrender. It was a win win situation for both of us. We were successful in breaking up Pakistan into two with much needed contribution from MB and you guys got what you were demanding, your own country.
1. You have a very hazy idea about what you are talking about.
a. The refugees were 100% Hindus. As such there was a tremendous pressure on GOI from Tripura, W Bengal and Indians in general to assist them. It was not that India was footing the bill; the world community, UNHCR, etc were doing that mostly.
b. India's masters, the Soviets had been approached by our Communist leaders, Moni Singh and Muzaffar Ahmed for assistance. And they in turn asked India to be on our side.
c. The bulk of the weapons we used were Czechoslovakian or from Eastern Bloc, not Indian.
d. Yes, many Indians contributed funds and helped in raising this - like late Nawab Patuadi and his Begum Sharmila Thakur. Like the Beetles. Like Pandit Ravi Shankar. Like Johnstnehoue, British MP, etc.
2. This was a golden opportunity for India to break-up Pakistan, and Indira Gandhi did not loose that opportunity. In fact, many say India had a hand in creating differences / suspicions between the two wings leading to 1971 War.
3. After the pathetic and miserable performance of IA in 1962, Ran of Kutch and 1965, Indian military was looking for an opportunity to redeem itself. It was too easy for Manekshaw to steal victory from us.
4. You forget Mukti Bahini was led by professional officers of ex-PA. IA officers were no patch on them in terms of professionalism. We worked out our own strategy working under huge adversity. For instance, we didn't have any weapons of our own except SAs that we carried when defecting. Indians ensured we received only SAs from the Eastern bloc. Our communication sets were confiscated by Indians and we had to make do with IA wireless operators provided during ops. We were not allowed to organize any Intel.
5. By and large, as of Sep '71, PA troops had realized that they were fighting a wrong war for all the wrong reasons. Gross indiscipline and immorality at the higher level totally broke the morale factor. Satisfactory logistics was impossible to maintain. Pakistan's treasury had become empty. Diplomatically Pakistan was isolated. Sensible Pakistanis like Asghar Khan and others were speaking out against the war on own population. Cases were reported where officers were refusing to obey unlawful orders like killing civilians. Even USA,China and Iran were asking for an end to the war.
6. By Sep PA troops had become too dispersed to be of any use for set battles. Isolated outlets, even commanded by NCOs, became easy prey for us. The total population of BD was helping us in one way or the other. Even many Razakars were quick to come over to our side whenever they got a break. Civil functionaries, apparently pro-Pak, were mostly working for us. Only a small marginal population belonging to Jam'at, ML, PDP and N e I, and Urdu speaking people were supporting Pakistan. On the other hand, almost the entire 10 mlln Hindus who had fled into India, refused to take up arms for our cause.
7. As such it is no wonder that the final conventional phase push did not find much opposition. Hili was one exception. We hardly fired a bullet till reaching Daudkandi near Dhaka from the east. Similar was the situation in the north where Kader Siddiqui was dominating the area. Jessore fell the first day. All this was due to our guerrilla activities.
8. Osmani was to launch his attack all by himself at the onset of the next monsoon - that is in another 6 months. We had already organized 3 X Bdes. By that time another 3 would have been added.
9. FYI, Osmani had also drawn up various contingencies. One of them was an Indo-Pak understanding sacrificing our cause.
10. In short, we had realized then and know it fully well now, that Indians are insincere, unreliable who would stab us in the back given an opportunity.
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