India's Tejas and China's Xiaolong fighters compared

[Tipu7]

so is that your jealousy for IAF and india or your frustation deu to detiruating situtaion in your nation ora mixture of both

None of them. Too lazy to share

 

[HariPrasad]

Morons like you would deduce that aircraft design is about color and aesthetics. LCA is so super advanced that it was not even invited for the MMRCA deal, yea it is so cool an aircraft. But you would have a ready made answer that because of "kick backs" the LCA was left behind.

How can LCA (light aircraft) Be invited in Medium category aircraft?

 

[Indian Patriot]

How can LCA (light aircraft) Be invited in Medium category aircraft?

The same way Grippen was invited.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

It's Indian trolling.

then you will called 5th gen plane made by Russian also an Indian plane like India invested in design and also funded in the project , like what PAK did, funded the project?

 

[aliaselin]

the Xiaolong is the aircraft of today and the Tejas is the aircraft of tomorrow.

It seems the Indian guys do not understand Chinese humor. In China we often highlight "WILL" as 将 for Indian project, so this sentence is another way to make fun of it
Or make it clear, Tejas is the aircraft of tomorrow, but never today

 

[ares]

55% Thunder is prepared in Kamra. Pakistan and China have jointly designed and prepared Thunders.more over we will be primary users and we will sell them to friendly nations. so its better to call them Pakistani Thunders instead of labelling it permanently with Chinese label.
Su30MKI case is different. Su30 is Russian project and its MKI variant is prepared by Russians and Indians jointly. so its case is a bit different...........................

MKI is entirely build in India, avionics on MKI like RWR are of Indian design,

Please enlighten us, what exactly was the Pakistani contribution to JF-17.
If it was a 50-50 joint venture, Pakistani contributions should be readily visible.

Don't ask us to looks through a thousand pages of JF-17 thunder threads, to look for a minute contribution.

 

[slapshot]

MKI is entirely build in India, avionics on MKI like RWR are of Indian design,

Please enlighten us, what exactly was the Pakistani contribution to JF-17.
If it was a 50-50 joint venture, Pakistani contributions should be readily visible.

Don't ask us to looks through a thousand pages of JF-17 thunder threads, to look for a minute contribution.

Do you guys get a share from sales Russia does for Su30? Pakistan gets a share from sales done on its joint ventures with china. For example K8 trainer jet. Same goes for thunder. No one needs to enlighten every Kumar and shukla who is ignorant by choice.

 

[GURU DUTT]

If bisons are such a super cool aircraft then why is IAF so keen to replace them? Why even come up with the concept of LCA to replace bisons?

Jags do not stand a chance against F-16 in air combat, if you think otherwise then you watch too much of action movies. Jags are designed as strike aircraft. Yes they might carry A2A missiles for self-defence but they are not meant to fight dog-fights.

The embarrassment of Mig-21 is that it is a effing flying coffin. Go and tell the parents of dead pilots that the Mig-21 is a modern, advanced fighter. Unless you got the balls to do than then I suggest you keep your bollywood logic to yourself.



Yea, who cares about aircraft design right?

Do you even know what the hell is wing configuration? Do you even understand the difference between canards and delta wing and what purpose these different wing designs achieve? And we are only taking about wings here not even the things like air intakes and exhaust.

Morons like you would deduce that aircraft design is about color and aesthetics. LCA is so super advanced that it was not even invited for the MMRCA deal, yea it is so cool an aircraft. But you would have a ready made answer that because of "kick backs" the LCA was left behind.

Why do yu even bother posting if you don't have any idea?

IAF is replacing bisons as they are past there intended lifes though they are still good and have a decnt radar and wepons pakage for its point defnce role they are showing there age now

jags are not for dog fights with F16s (the ones PAF has are already too less and way too many strings are attached to them) to keep 18+42+13 F16s bizzi we already have 108 MKIs+63 Mig 29s & 54M2ks so no worries there

as for delta wing well bro the "pure delta dsign" like those on mirage or rafale are good for speed and canards are added to increase lift and manuvarability but have a sserous RCS issue while cranked delta not onli increases lift but is great for manuvarability & speed to so its not an issue the issue is with the drag which with MK2 is already adressed wait for some time

 

[SpArK]

If bisons are such a super cool aircraft then why is IAF so keen to replace them? Why even come up with the concept of LCA to replace bisons?

Jags do not stand a chance against F-16 in air combat, if you think otherwise then you watch too much of action movies. Jags are designed as strike aircraft. Yes they might carry A2A missiles for self-defence but they are not meant to fight dog-fights.

The embarrassment of Mig-21 is that it is a effing flying coffin. Go and tell the parents of dead pilots that the Mig-21 is a modern, advanced fighter. Unless you got the balls to do than then I suggest you keep your bollywood logic to yourself.



Yea, who cares about aircraft design right?

Do you even know what the hell is wing configuration? Do you even understand the difference between canards and delta wing and what purpose these different wing designs achieve? And we are only taking about wings here not even the things like air intakes and exhaust.

Morons like you would deduce that aircraft design is about color and aesthetics. LCA is so super advanced that it was not even invited for the MMRCA deal, yea it is so cool an aircraft. But you would have a ready made answer that because of "kick backs" the LCA was left behind.

Why do yu even bother posting if you don't have any idea?

So what are the factors that's obsolete or not modern in LCA?

Is it the design?
Is it the structure?
Is it the avionics?
Is it the GE engine?
Is it the weapons package?
Is it the Radar and sensors?
Is it the EW suites,Pods and countermeasures?
Is it the data links?
Is it the ejection seat?
Is it the composites?
Is it the DASH HMDS?
Is it the cost?

What is it that you dont like or consider not worthy of a modern fighter.?

Please be specific and talk on basis of technicals rather than beating around the bush so that we can conclude its a bad choice to build a fighter on our own.

 

[Tipu7]

So what are the factors that's obsolete or not modern in LCA?

Is it the design?
Is it the structure?
Is it the avionics?
Is it the GE engine?
Is it the weapons package?
Is it the Radar and sensors?
Is it the EW suites,Pods and countermeasures?
Is it the data links?
Is it the ejection seat?
Is it the composites?
Is it the DASH HMDS?
Is it the cost?

What is it that you dont like or consider not worthy of a modern fighter.?

Please be specific and talk on basis of technicals rather than beating around the bush so that we can conclude its a bad choice to build a fighter on our own.

Design........................
Loved the way u mentioned Composites

 

[@RV]

I have many inside source, i confirmed the indigenous SSN and SSK development way back in 2011-12. Don't doubt me puny human.

These informations are kept secret for a reason, so you should not reveal on an enemy country forum.

 

[cerberus]

https://twitter.com/x/status/595933368149147651

 

[GURU DUTT]

https://twitter.com/x/status/595933368149147651

now what does this means or is intended for ?

 

[duhastmish]

So what are the factors that's obsolete or not modern in LCA?

Is it the design?
Is it the structure?
Is it the avionics?
Is it the GE engine?
Is it the weapons package?
Is it the Radar and sensors?
Is it the EW suites,Pods and countermeasures?
Is it the data links?
Is it the ejection seat?
Is it the composites?
Is it the DASH HMDS?
Is it the cost?

What is it that you dont like or consider not worthy of a modern fighter.?

Please be specific and talk on basis of technicals rather than beating around the bush so that we can conclude its a bad choice to build a fighter on our own.

The jet is not out yet with all these configuration.

Radar is under process
Ge engine is not installed
Etc etc.

Yes the day lca will be complete. It will be better but I am waiting for decades.
lca in current situation is not combat ready.
If they will take due course of time it will be too late since it's already too late.

Lca is not inducted the way a fighter jet is meant to be

 

[ZooZoo]

JF 17 has come a long way since its induction, one of the reason why Pakistan is inducting in numbers.

Tejas capabilities will improve.

Yes after many years of induction fc1 can fly at night and fire few missiles and bombs.

FC1 project started in 1982, LCA started in 1991