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India’s Snub to China on OBOR: Unwise to Ignore Economic Interests

Are you even permitted to have debates in china ? :lol:

No wonder you are shocked to hear people practice free speech openly.



You certainly have different truth about tastes .......... most of the stuff you eat is nauseating for a civilized man.

BTW are you bragging that you dream of Poo :woot:
The only freedom i see is your ability to create filth.
 
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The only freedom i see is your ability to create filth.

That is one more freedom, not desirable, but a freedom never the less.

However you ability to see is restricted by your narrow vision and a more narrow mind.
 
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No wonder you are shocked to hear people practice free speech openly.

You certainly have different truth about tastes .......... most of the stuff you eat is nauseating for a civilized man.
BTW are you bragging that you dream of Poo :woot:
Sure. I am utterly shocked to see hundreds of millions of people in broad daylight practice free defecation OPENLY.
eh . . . Pooing
Apparently normal stuff is nauseating for someone living in a land of everywhere free Pooing.
 
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http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatime...tive-india-has-succeeded-in-isolating-itself/

Backed in a corner: By staying away from China’s Belt and Road Initiative, India has succeeded in isolating itself
Kanti Bajpai
India has backed itself into a foreign policy corner. And it is difficult to see how it will come out. Three years of a buccaneering approach to the world have brought the country to this sorry pass.

India’s isolation was clear enough at China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) forum. Not a single country of note was absent from the meeting. New Delhi’s contention it was staying away because the China Pakistan Economic Corridor violates Indian sovereignty in Kashmir was unconvincing. China has been in occupation of Indian-claimed territory in the disputed state since 1963. This has not stopped India from doing normal business with Beijing. Nor has Chinese occupation of Aksai Chin and other areas along the contested border prevented New Delhi from working with China.

The real reasons for India’s absence from BRI are quite different. It is galling to New Delhi that the entire world is lining up to do business with a rampant China and no one is paying India much attention. Envy apart, there is the strategic worry that China will ‘encircle’ India. That China, with an economy five times the size of India, needs the BRI and an encirclement of India to deal with its weak neighbour is unlikely, but clearly this assumption motivates Indian strategic thinking.

In fact, BRI has little to do with India. It is about using excess Chinese capacity, financial and industrial. It is about ensuring that China has alternative markets for its exports given that the West and Japan could turn protectionist. It is about reviving China’s status as a great power, culturally and geopolitically. The land routes in Eurasia and Pakistan are, in addition, about dealing with Muslim extremism in areas adjacent to China’s restive Xinjiang. Beijing hopes that its massive investments in Pakistan will lift the Pakistani economy and drain the swamp of extremism – which, incidentally, is in India’s interest.

At least part of New Delhi’s calculations about BRI were that the burgeoning relationship with the US would counterbalance China’s ambitions. However, Donald Trump has cosied up to Xi Jinping because he needs his help on the US economy and dealing with North Korea. Trump also wants to ensure that China and Russia don’t get too close and so flirting with both suits him. In any case, US companies want a piece of the action in BRI.

Where does this leave India? More than ever, New Delhi has been pushed into America’s orbit and is losing strategic leverage. Being taken for granted by Washington is never a good idea. This loss of flexibility is being compounded by the fact that Russia is drawing closer to China and Pakistan.

Moscow has its worries about both countries, but its greatest worries are the US and Islamic extremism. It needs China against the West, and it hopes, like Beijing, that engaging Pakistan will stave off extremism. India is a market for Russian weapons, but it has gone too far into the US camp for Moscow’s comfort. Vladimir Putin doesn’t therefore care much about Indian sensitivities on China and Pakistan.

Finally, relations with Pakistan have hit the lowest ebb since the 1960s. Dialogue has ended. New Delhi for the first time has utterly refused to discuss Kashmir. Terror attacks from across the border continue. An Indian national may be hanged in a Pakistani jail, allegedly for spying. The government’s mishandling of protests in Kashmir and of PDP-BJP coalition politics are creating openings for Islamabad. With Chinese investments, potential Russian arms sales, and continuing US support, Pakistan is in quite a happy place strategically. All India’s gains over the Rao, Vajpayee, and Manmohan periods have been squandered.

As the prime minister gets on his plane to Israel, Russia, Germany, Spain and Kazakhstan over the next few weeks, he will have much to ponder.
 
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http://blogs.economictimes.indiatim...nomic-corridor-how-india-lost-an-opportunity/

China-Pakistan Economic Corridor: How India lost an opportunity
Economic Times
By Pinaki Bhattacharya

In the aftermath of what can be called the ‘Dai Bingguo Formula’, named after the Chinese special representative for the Joint Working Group on the India-China boundary dispute, floated in March this year, it was argued that New Delhi not concurring with a Chinese request to join the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) would be a gigantic folly. It can now clearly be said China has snatched away Indian primacy in the region.

It all happened over two days this week as China hosted the Belt and Road Forum in Beijing. Over May 14 and 15, even as India sought and failed to reconcile its desire for material largesse that can accrue from the Chinese Belt Road Initiative (BRI) and its desire to maintain its strategic autonomy in relation with the US, 110 countries signed on to the Beijing Plan to provide ‘cooperative capitalism’ to developing and underdeveloped nations.

What India now has to focus on is to claw back through an activist oceanic maritime policy.



Odd one out
The corridor would run from Xinjiang in China’s south-west where the minority Uyghur community lives. A section of them are separatists. So, the ’s route would be through areas that are contentious, rights over which are contested by communities, none of which would align their ‘ideology’ with China’s or Pakistan’s — or even India’s via Kashmir. The part of Kashmir through which the CPEC will run falls under Pakistan-Administered Kashmir/Azad Kashmir since the 1948 incursion of Pakistani regular and irregular troops. They were beaten back by Indian forces, but after giving up some territory to Pakistan.

If one plots the corridor along this path, one will see it actually runs parallel to the Line of Control (LoC) between India and China, as clearly differentiated from any international boundary. So, if India joined up in the CPEC project, in geopolitical terms, Pakistan would have had to face aquandary — and India gained access to Azad Kashmir. In other words, it would have seemed that the LoC had melted away. Instead of an everyday exchange of fire across the LoC between India and Pakistan, we could have enjoyed quiescence in the context of one of the most incendiary of all international disputes.

But, alas, that has not happened. The current managers of India’s security policy thought that a clear alignment with China, Russia and possibly Iran would cause them to lose traction in the West (read: the US). “Let’s wait for the Modi-Putin meeting,” V Siddhartha of the National Institute of Advanced Studies (NIAS), Bengaluru, had stated. Now, Vladimir Putin and Narendra Modi can meet only on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) Summit.

Being held in Kazakhstan, the Russian president will have a lot on his plate at the SCO. But now Putin has to live up to the promise of making India and Pakistan full voting members. So, it is going to be fun watching how a Russo-centric organisation switches gears.
 
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http://blogs.economictimes.indiatim...nomic-corridor-how-india-lost-an-opportunity/

China-Pakistan Economic Corridor: How India lost an opportunity
Economic Times
By Pinaki Bhattacharya

In the aftermath of what can be called the ‘Dai Bingguo Formula’, named after the Chinese special representative for the Joint Working Group on the India-China boundary dispute, floated in March this year, it was argued that New Delhi not concurring with a Chinese request to join the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) would be a gigantic folly. It can now clearly be said China has snatched away Indian primacy in the region.

It all happened over two days this week as China hosted the Belt and Road Forum in Beijing. Over May 14 and 15, even as India sought and failed to reconcile its desire for material largesse that can accrue from the Chinese Belt Road Initiative (BRI) and its desire to maintain its strategic autonomy in relation with the US, 110 countries signed on to the Beijing Plan to provide ‘cooperative capitalism’ to developing and underdeveloped nations.

What India now has to focus on is to claw back through an activist oceanic maritime policy.



Odd one out
The corridor would run from Xinjiang in China’s south-west where the minority Uyghur community lives. A section of them are separatists. So, the ’s route would be through areas that are contentious, rights over which are contested by communities, none of which would align their ‘ideology’ with China’s or Pakistan’s — or even India’s via Kashmir. The part of Kashmir through which the CPEC will run falls under Pakistan-Administered Kashmir/Azad Kashmir since the 1948 incursion of Pakistani regular and irregular troops. They were beaten back by Indian forces, but after giving up some territory to Pakistan.

If one plots the corridor along this path, one will see it actually runs parallel to the Line of Control (LoC) between India and China, as clearly differentiated from any international boundary. So, if India joined up in the CPEC project, in geopolitical terms, Pakistan would have had to face aquandary — and India gained access to Azad Kashmir. In other words, it would have seemed that the LoC had melted away. Instead of an everyday exchange of fire across the LoC between India and Pakistan, we could have enjoyed quiescence in the context of one of the most incendiary of all international disputes.

But, alas, that has not happened. The current managers of India’s security policy thought that a clear alignment with China, Russia and possibly Iran would cause them to lose traction in the West (read: the US). “Let’s wait for the Modi-Putin meeting,” V Siddhartha of the National Institute of Advanced Studies (NIAS), Bengaluru, had stated. Now, Vladimir Putin and Narendra Modi can meet only on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) Summit.

Being held in Kazakhstan, the Russian president will have a lot on his plate at the SCO. But now Putin has to live up to the promise of making India and Pakistan full voting members. So, it is going to be fun watching how a Russo-centric organisation switches gears.
 
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True, looks like india wants to retain its tradition of being a nation of beggars.
 
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True, looks like india wants to retain its tradition of being a nation of beggars.
Why don't you go to school and read some history about the region first, before embarrassing yourself with your usual stupidity?
 
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Go beg for attention somewhere else indian.
From your posting history it's not difficult to guess who is the attention seeking beggar here. But am not surprised. Expected from an evident moron.
 
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I don't understand, why the hell China, Chinese and Chinese paid trolls are so much butt-hurt. India does not want Chinese Belt or what ever so get lost. Shoo!
 
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