India's patience on terror not unlimited: Robert Gates

[naved_kam]

My suggestion to your Indian Brethren is liberate Indian Occupied Kashmir and allow them to choose their own destiny. The day you do that; our contention will remain no more and we all will thrive as two great but separate nations that we actually are.

P.S - The SH-IT will really hit the fan when you have nukes flying over our heads!! Rest everything else is small potatoes! So think about that because our 'meter' will go haywire long before your could say Incredible India!!

Exactly my suggestion Sir. Stop the infilitration across the LOC, stop paying your henchmen, ala Syed Gilani and his ilk and let peace prevail and then see what happens. Ummmm...... remember the turnout at recent assembly and parliamentary election?

Re your P.S - What makes you believe that India has not planned for your low threshold eventuality. Afterall everytime the SH-IT hit the fan before, it always fell on your side.....

 

[gpit]

Do you know in India, we are now using Electronic Voting Machines in elections, what about China.

Does that help reduce 30% your parliament members being criminals?

 

[naved_kam]

Does that help reduce 30% your parliament members being criminals?

Ummmm..... no. But it sure does let us do something about them in future. How do you change corrupt/criminal party members in China (I mean those who hide cash in their ponds or run casinos or have juankets in Macau or who have dual registration cars for H.K + Shenzen)?

Or may be you just hang the people who bring the Party corruption to fore? Isn't it?

 

[gpit]

... How do you change corrupt/criminal party members in China (I mean those who hide cash in their ponds or run casinos or have juankets in Macau or who have dual registration cars for H.K + Shenzen)?

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if you read news from China, once caught they were either jailed or their head chopped off. How about yours? Still in parliment as law makers?

 

[naved_kam]

if you read news from China, once caught they were either jailed or their head chopped off. How about yours? Still in parliment as law makers?

News from China...... are you sure? Oh.... may be you mean the party propaganda.

On chopping of heads/ killing I would agree. I saw some clippings of the Tianamen square somewhere..... You sure do that. Whether of the corrupt/criminal/rapist party members or of those who bring the crimes to fore, is a Chinese mystery.

In our case, we take them to court and try them. They are humans you see. But I thought that you would have learnt that already in the U.S.

 

[Nemesis]

Does that help reduce 30% your parliament members being criminals?

As opposed to the technocrats of the Communist party of China not being criminals? Are you sure about that?

The state suppression of free will is also a criminal act. To claim to adhere to an ideology, and following its complete opposite is a hypocritical act. Not to mention the fact that the entire justification for its rule is based on the ideology it does not follow. Hypocritical criminals. And the entire state machinary , not just a select % is responsible.

PS - I'm well aware that your response will be on the lines on Indian poverty, caste system etc etc. Thanks, we're well aware of it. Do not turn this into a China - India flame thread. Stick to topic.

 

[Barrett]

Watch recorded telecast of discussions in news channels over Mumbai attack or any such major attacks in India. Read columns and opinions by people in newspaper, discussions on international forums, etc.

There are different pov suggesting different things. But since you are so convinced that whatever you saw on news channels and the columns you read are the only ones out there.
I will not quote a pakistani, never, as whatever he says has to be bias, I will not even quote from a netural source, listen to this guy his name is Amaresh Mishra he is a freelance writer, historian and poet, doing his Ph.D in Modern History from Allahabad University on the social and cultural attitudes of the middle classes of north India. He is a political columnist for the Economic and Political Weekly of India, besides contributing regularly to The Times of India. He is also a scriptwriter.

Radio: Amaresh Misra & Ahmed Quraishi on Chicago?s ABN Radio Pak Alert Press

And please make your friends, who also read only what is easy to absorb listen to this.

But as I indicated before, evidence need not always be hard-core, for example, you cannot prove to a blind, in a direct manner, that there exists something called a moon. There are evidences called implicative evidences that leads to such conclusions.

You can say what you believe in based on your knowledge from your sources and I will from mine, in a court of law this is not even enough to file a case against someone.

I would not disagree with this argument. In fact, India will have to make all effort to prevent any future major terrorist attack here, otherwise it would be very hard to hold any retaliatory actions, and that would certainly be not good for either sides.

Atleast we agree on something.

Let me clarify you, India has always talked about surgical strikes in Pakistan on the terrorist camps identified, in case it has to retaliate, certainly, it would never be declaration of war from India unless Pakistan decides to resist such strikes through its own force.

Surgical what?
I think that whatever happening in Pakistan today Narendra Modi is responsible for it, can I go for surgical strikes on Gujrat? this is just absurd how can you attack a country and not expect retaliation?
Once you attack a country the response can not be dictated by you, the ball is not in your court then.


You will find your answer for Surgical strike here

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

India’s patience will be limited if 26/11 recurs, warns Gates

Arriving in India on Wednesday, US Defence Secretary Robert Gates said India’s patience would be limited if it faced another 26/11-like terror attack.

He also warned that militant groups Lashkar-e-Tayyebba (LeT) and Al-Qaeda were working together to destabilise the South Asian region and provoke a confrontation between India and Pakistan.

“I think it is not unreasonable to assume Indian patience would be limited were there to be further attacks,” said Gates.

Gates, who discussed the serious threat posed by terrorism to the region with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Defence Minister A.K. Antony, emphasised the need for “high level of cooperation” from all countries to defeat the “syndicate” of terror, including the LeT, the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. He said the syndicate had “home and safe haven” in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border areas and that there was need to recognise the magnitude of threat to the entire region.

“A victory for any one group is a victory for all,” he said.

Gates hard-pitched for two long-pending military pacts with India. The two countries also discussed China’s military build-up, with Washington urging greater interaction between the Asian giants.

Gates arrived in India on Tuesday on a two-day visit and has met the prime minister and External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna, besides Antony. This is his second visit here since 2006, when he served in the Bush administration. In an unusual move, US President Barack Obama retained him to ensure continuity in policies.

India?s patience will be limited if 26/11 recurs, warns Gates- Hindustan Times

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

I have absolutely no dough now that when the time is rit for india another mumbai saga will happen and the blame will be Put on Pakistan . And this time the yanks may succeed in erupting an Indo-Pak War .
Pakistan as anation must prepare for a scenario like this .


All the lessons of history in four sentences:
Whom the GOD would destroy, they first make mad with power.
The mills of GOD grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly small.
The bee fertilizes the flower it robs.
When it is dark enough, you can see the stars.

 

[Supersonic26]

I have absolutely no dough now that when the time is rit for india another mumbai saga will happen and the blame will be Put on Pakistan . And this time the yanks may succeed in erupting an Indo-Pak War .
Pakistan as anation must prepare for a scenario like this .


All the lessons of history in four sentences:
Whom the GOD would destroy, they first make mad with power.
The mills of GOD grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly small.
The bee fertilizes the flower it robs.
When it is dark enough, you can see the stars.

Take action against terrorist and destroy terrorist camps. Punish those who planned 26/11. Once pakistan do that then if by chance another 26/11 type attack take place then india wont attack pakistan. Right now pakistan done nothing punishing those terrorists and destroying terrorists camps and sending terrorists into india from LoC. So if another attack takes place then india doesn't have much option. India will war and whole world will support it. America already hinted that. Now its upto pakistan to think about it and take action against LeT and all terrorists and terrorist camps.

 

[Peshwa]

News from China...... are you sure? Oh.... may be you mean the party propaganda.

On chopping of heads/ killing I would agree. I saw some clippings of the Tianamen square somewhere..... You sure do that. Whether of the corrupt/criminal/rapist party members or of those who bring the crimes to fore, is a Chinese mystery.

In our case, we take them to court and try them. They are humans you see. But I thought that you would have learnt that already in the U.S.

Whats funny is that the culprits of Tiannmen Square massacre (Read genocide) are yet to punished, yet some delusional brainwashed folks tend to point fingers at the Indian netas accused of petty crimes.....

Tearing pages out of history books to wipe clean their own crimes is how some governments tend to whitewash their actions and keep an entire nation ignorant......Yet we are the demonic "caste democracy"....LOL!!!

 

[gpit]

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... I saw some clippings of the Tianamen square somewhere..... You sure do that. Whether of the corrupt/criminal/rapist party members or of those who bring the crimes to fore, is a Chinese mystery.

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Surely everyone sees that. That was a one time shot and those in charge then were all goners.

But somebody is blind to 2,000,000 killed children yearly, now, this moment. That means 1000-3000 Tiananmen square every year!

As I wrote this paragraph, tens or perhaps hundreds of your innocent children have died. And you forget your 2000 Tiananmen killings every year and are still indulged in pointing feeble finger to 30 years ago China...

And your criminal and rapist parliament members get elected every year, perch on key positions, stipulate your murderous laws, and your 70+ old had intercourse with multiple teens and makes it publically broadcasted...

China isn't a mystery. But India is incredible!

 

[gpit]

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PS - I'm well aware that your response will be on the lines on Indian poverty, caste system etc etc. Thanks, we're well aware of it. Do not turn this into a China - India flame thread. Stick to topic.

Did you hint China doesn't know Tiananmen?

Back to topic, Gates obviously implies that India has been patient. No question about that just by looking at 2,000,000 children murdered yearly.

Why doesn't India patience run out sooner? The only answer is because GOI itself is a murderous terrorist!

 

[gpit]

Whats funny is that the culprits of Tiannmen Square massacre (Read genocide) are yet to punished, yet some delusional brainwashed folks tend to point fingers at the Indian netas accused of petty crimes.....

Tearing pages out of history books to wipe clean their own crimes is how some governments tend to whitewash their actions and keep an entire nation ignorant......Yet we are the demonic "caste democracy"....LOL!!!

India criminals are still adding pages to its brutal history book, patiently.

LOL indeed!

 

[Peshwa]

Surely everyone sees that. That was a one time shot and those in charge then were all goners.

But somebody is blind to 2,000,000 killed children yearly, now, this moment. That means 1000-3000 Tiananmen square every year!

As I wrote this paragraph, tens or perhaps hundreds of your innocent children have died. And you forget your 2000 Tiananmen killings every year and are still indulged in pointing feeble finger to 30 years ago China...

And your criminal and rapist parliament members get elected every year, perch on key positions, stipulate your murderous laws, and your 70+ old had intercourse with multiple teens and makes it publically broadcasted...

China isn't a mystery. But India is incredible!

Can you prove that 2MM children died as a result of the direct actions/orders of the Parliamentarians or were systematically eliminated by the armed forces of India?

Do you have an answer for the Millions slaughtered during the "cultural revolution" to bring communism to China?

And what does a threesome by an insignificant "state" politician have to do with the atrocities of murder that China's leaders were involved with?....How does that reflect the "criminal" attitude of Indian politicians?...Private lives of our politicians are non of your bloody beeswax.....Why not question the multiple flings by JFK or Clinton??....
Doesnt your country call these same leaders the greatest presidents of all time??

Please find some "dirt" other than our poverty, latrine situation and Caste system......