India's Orwellian drift

[53fd]

^^^ you truly seem to take issue with the Muslim under-representation in India and the financial position of Muslims in India. Are you certain that you are not a Congress Party candidate for a future CM post in India???

Are you a candidate for the VHP, RSS or the BJP with a hindutva agenda? India CLAIMING to be a secular democracy should really aspire to follow the principles of one. Pakistan doesn't claim to be a secular democracy, it is the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. It is shameful how Indians are trying to justify the underrepresentation of Indian Muslims in every field of life, despite being the second largest minority of India (150 million people), claiming to be a secular democracy.

 

[angel eyes]

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A typical disgusting muslim mentality!!

Underrepresentation of Indian Muslims is not because of other communities but because of muslims themselves. Unless muslims themselves don't want to progress, they cannot progress. Nobody is here to carry them as burden, there is nothing like a free lunch.

If they want to progress, they themselves should work hard for it rather than always crying about underrepresentation.

 

[Prometheus]

India CLAIMING to be a secular democracy should really aspire to follow the principles of one. Pakistan doesn't claim to be a secular democracy, it is the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. It is shameful how Indians are trying to justify the underrepresentation of Indian Muslims in every field of life, despite claiming to be a secular democracy.

well, Bro.........I one thing stands all over the world................even if you are a non-secular non-republic country ..........

If you are illitrate..............you cannot be made a proffesor

If you run away from doing work.............no one is going to pay you at ur home.

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well its sometimes fascinates me to read comments by my friends claiming and trying very hard to prove India is bad for minorities.............they do this ...they do that......

If you got some talent ..............It cannot be hidden under curtains.

Govt. cannot simply come out and start handing over money to a particular section......................or can they???

let me add some data to the above things..................just few days back result of CAT came out...............and guess what IIM seats are done at 99.81%........................they are not going to allot the seat looking at ur religion....................If you had worked hard and secored the marks...........you got the seat............

and just to make friends happy........................I am a minority ..............Plz save me from India

 

[53fd]

^^^
A typical muslim mentality!!

Underrepresentation of Indian Muslims is not because of other communities but because of muslims themselves. Unless muslims themselves don't want to progress, they cannot progress. Nobody is here to carry them as burden, there is nothing like a free lunch.

If they want to progress, they themselves should work hard for it rather than always crying about underrepresentation.

The conclusions of the Sachar Report disagree with you. It concludes that the Muslims have been discriminated systematically from every field of life, which is the result of their underdevelopment, not because they don't want to progress. It's like saying that it's the fault of a rape victim that they got raped. Sad by the Indian mentality against their own countrymen.

 

[angel eyes]

@ bilalhaider

Have you read sachhar report?? Which points states that muslims lag behind because of discrimination?? I think this it is typical muslim mentality to be anti-social. They themselves don't want to mix and live peacefully. There is no other reason for demanding a separate state. Tell me, why are problem found only those part of the world where muslims live?? E.G.- kashmir, chechenya,palestine.
I think peace is an alian concept to muslim community.

 

[desioptimist]

well, Bro.........I one thing stands all over the world................even if you are a non-secular non-republic country ..........

If you are illitrate..............you cannot be made a proffesor

If you run away from doing work.............no one is going to pay you at ur home.

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well its sometimes fascinates me to read comments by my friends claiming and trying very hard to prove India is bad for minorities.............they do this ...they do that......

If you got some talent ..............It cannot be hidden under curtains.

Govt. cannot simply come out and start handing over money to a particular section......................or can they???

let me add some data to the above things..................just few days back result of CAT came out...............and guess what IIM seats are done at 99.81%........................they are not going to allot the seat looking at ur religion....................If you had worked hard and secored the marks...........you got the seat............

and just to make friends happy........................I am a minority ..............Plz save me from India

We should accept that it is a failure of successive govts and partly muslim leadership. Some of the backward castes within muslims are already given reservation. More needs to be done.

 

[53fd]

@ bilalhaider

Have you read sachhar report?? Which points states that muslims lag behind because of discrimination?? I think this it is typical muslim mentality to be anti-social. They themselves don't want to mix and live peacefully. There is no other reason for demanding a separate state. Tell me, why are problem found only those part of the world where muslims live?? E.G.- kashmir, chechenya,palestine.
I think peace is an alian concept to muslim community.

Yes, I actually have. The report talks about state level underrepresentation for Muslims in all fields of life. Despite having higher education levels than Pakistani Muslims, they are underrepresented in every field of life in India, they are the most backward minority in India (even more than the Dalits), and systematically discriminated in India. The Sachar Report clearly dissolves the Hindu myths about Indian Muslims not wanting to integrate, or wanting to improve their conditions. I'm very surprised Indian Muslims can even take such levels of discrimination at the state and national levels. And I can't believe you would talk this kind of trash against your own fellow countrymen who belong to, and have an ownership of India as much as you do.

Kashmir and Palestine are Muslim territories held by force, and there is a massacre and genocide going on against them everyday. Want examples of peaceful Muslim countries? Malaysia, Turkey, Iran, UAE to name a few.

 

[desioptimist]

Yes, I actually have. The report talks about state level underrepresentation for Muslims in all fields of life. Despite having higher education levels than Pakistani Muslims, they are underrepresented in every field of life in India, they are the most backward minority in India (even more than the Dalits), and systematically discriminated in India. The Sachar Report clearly dissolves the Hindu myths about Indian Muslims not wanting to integrate, or wanting to improve their conditions. I'm very surprised Indian Muslims can even take such levels of discrimination at the state and national levels. And I can't believe you would talk this kind of trash against your own fellow countrymen who belong to, and have an ownership of India as much as you do.

Kashmir and Palestine are Muslim territories held by force, and there is a massacre and genocide going on against them everyday. Want examples of peaceful Muslim countries? Malaysia, Turkey, Iran, UAE to name a few.

Muslims are not in worst shape than lower castes or dalits. But your point noted.
Kashmir is not muslim territory.

 

[53fd]

Kashmir is not muslim territory.

Most parts of Kashmir (except Ladakh) are Muslim majority/dominated regions.

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

why compare indian muslims education level with Pak muslims..compare it with indian non muslims.

 

[angel eyes]

Kashmir and Palestine are Muslim territories held by force, and there is a massacre and genocide going on against them everyday. Want examples of peaceful Muslim countries? Malaysia, Turkey, Iran, UAE to name a few.

please keep your bloody "peaceful muslims" rant to yourself!
we all know how peaceful muslims really are.
They kill others in the name of religion and if there is nobody to fight they kill each other. Its like killing is their favourite time pass.
I wonder what these muslims eat to generate such levels of extreme hate.

 

[53fd]

why compare indian muslims education level with Pak muslims..compare it with indian non muslims.

^^^ The point is, despite the fact that Indian Muslims on a whole are more educated than Pakistani Muslims, they are discriminated systematically on state and national levels, and even treated worse than the Dalits in India. They are also brutally massacred (Malegaon, Ahmedabad, Ayodhya, Bhagalpur, Hyderabad etc) from time to time by Hindutva mobs encouraged by Hindu supremest parties.

 

[53fd]

please keep your bloody "peaceful muslims" rant to yourself!
we all know how peaceful muslims really are.
They kill others in the name of religion and if there is nobody to fight they kill each other. Its like killing is their favourite time pass.
I wonder what these muslims eat to generate such levels of extreme hate.

Is that you Bal Thackeray? Or some other member of the Shiv Sena party? Or maybe you belong to the RSS, VHP or the BJP? Please keep your Hindutva mindset to yourself. You might encourage another Hindu mob to commit a massacre on a minority.

 

[RazorMC]

If someone is unable to find a job because of his religion, how can he feed his children and send them to school to be educated?
The child grows up uneducated and therefore cannot be employed except at the lowest levels of the corporation. He remains poor and like his father, he cannot feed his own children and send them to school.

This is a vicious cycle from which he cannot escape.

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Just for the record, Kashmir is a region with a Muslim majority.

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

why compare indian muslims education level with Pak muslims..compare it with indian non muslims.

^^^ The point is, despite the fact that Indian Muslims on a whole are more educated than Pakistani Muslims, they are discriminated systematically on state and national levels, and even treated worse than the Dalits in India. They are also brutally massacred (Malegaon, Ahmedabad, Ayodhya, Bhagalpur, Hyderabad) from time to time by Hindutva mobs encouraged by Hindu supremest parties.

you are comparing apples and oranges..to get a job in india indians compete each other not with pakistani.