India’s non-military strategic methods explored to wrest back Azad Kashmir & GB

[Path-Finder]

They have been working in all sections for a while now or may be for a very long time. Problem I see in coming years is opening of a combined front against us.
Look at this:
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I guess they will be upping the anti to a new level!

 

[Aspen]

They have been working in all sections for a while now or may be for a very long time. Problem I see in coming years is opening of a combined front against us.
Look at this:
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Well its probably not too hard to make a panel of Indians who disagree with BJP's policies. If they want to pit Pakistani intellectuals against Pakistan, we should pit Indian intellectuals against India.

 

[Amaa'n]

I guess they will be upping the anti to a new level!

No issues, we are here to handle Info War front, we need Boots on ground to handle the Military / Proxy War

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Problem is they have been left behind in developing their Information Warfare strategy. Lucky enough we had few sane voices in our country who started pushing on this more than half a decade ago.
Most of the work on Media Affairs was limited to Electronic Media & print Media, which was handled by a Naval Admiral at a certain organization, i can;t recall his name now (@Bratva , do you remember the name of this guy who used to handle the Media ? )... 2013 things took a little turn when RS came to power, all lot of work was done on developing InfoWar strategy, defining SOPs etc....If you look at last 6-7 yrs you will see how independent social media groups have emerged, all working proactively (or as Russians called it Active Measures) & independently to bust up everything thrown at them, PDF being one of them. (exclude ISPR trolls from the list, no disrespect to them, but they have turned into a joke lately. SOmeone needs to bring them back on line)

A few accounts of balwari chutiyas have also been propped up.

 

[Silverblaze]

you don't understand, they have a Team on ground for handling affairs in person, they want a team on Info War. Let me give you an example.

1. BLA bombs F.C patrol vehicle, 6 men get martyred including Major Nadeem.
2. Indians, dissidents, Affiliated terrorist groups justify the attack by running smear campaign against the deceased Military Officer. I was monitoring the situation very closely so i know the reach of this propaganda. From Indian journalists to Pakistan dissidents, Terrorists to Pro terrorists, all very running malicious propaganda that Major sb was somehow an evil person running death squad & drug trafficking.

3.Outcome of all this? You get to manipulate the foreign media, community
4. You use all that propaganda to raise the issue at U.N level. I do not want to give any names since they all are being monitored but we know they are working with UN Human Right work groups

We can Follow the same principles of warfare in cyber warfare. The tactic of saturation attacks can be used. Bombardment of information.

Getting house in order is vital. Dawn, tribune, the human rights crowd, need to be fought with the same medicine.

Why cant we have a mass media network operated from Pakistan that destroys indias state narrative by showing hindu right wing speeches and videos. Radio, social media groups can churn out material that exposes snakes inside as anti islam and murtads and outside the face of hindutva.

On a diplomatic level, why cant we organize a number of conferences with one agenda - rise of hindutva and anti muslim sentiment in india. IK is also doing a good job when he tweets, but a lot more needs to be done.

Well its probably not too hard to make a panel of Indians who disagree with BJP's policies. If they want to pit Pakistani intellectuals against Pakistan, we should pit Indian intellectuals against India.

You had talked about the need for an infowar or cyber warfare corp very recently and you were spot on.

 

[Path-Finder]

No issues, we are here to handle Info War front, we need Boots on ground to handle the Military / Proxy War

I feel a new wave coming especially with the dam building and they have already acquired the useful idiots from sindh too!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I feel a new wave coming especially with the dam building and they have already acquired the useful idiots from sindh too!

Remember “pashtunistan liberation army” chief

 

[Path-Finder]

Remember “pashtunistan liberation army” chief

PLA?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

PLA?

This ch8ya... he was an indian asset for some time, they recruited him from Afghanistan, gave him airtime.

2 years later he was caught entering Pak with an afghani passport.

PLA?

https://tribune.com.pk/story/204757...banned-outfit-arrested-trying-enter-pakistan/

 

[Aspen]

you don't understand, they have a Team on ground for handling affairs in person, they want a team on Info War. Let me give you an example.

1. BLA bombs F.C patrol vehicle, 6 men get martyred including Major Nadeem.
2. Indians, dissidents, Affiliated terrorist groups justify the attack by running smear campaign against the deceased Military Officer. I was monitoring the situation very closely so i know the reach of this propaganda. From Indian journalists to Pakistan dissidents, Terrorists to Pro terrorists, all very running malicious propaganda that Major sb was somehow an evil person running death squad & drug trafficking.
3.Outcome of all this? You get to manipulate the foreign media, community
4. You use all that propaganda to raise the issue at U.N level. I do not want to give any names since they all are being monitored but we know they are working with UN Human Right work groups

Easy solution for Pakistan is to do the same thing in Balochistan that they are doing in Kashmir. Let western media talk to moderate ordinary Balochis escorted by Pakistan Army and entire Indian narrative will fall apart as soon as world sees it, the same way Indian narrative fell apart when Pakistan invited western media to talk to Kashmiris in Azad Kashmir. Then Pakistan can say we invited foreign journalists to see both Kashmir and Balochistan for themselves while India will never let you see its side of Kashmir.

 

[maverick1977]

Have to give props to them for the vivid imagination like they will convince people of Azad kashmir who live abroad that they should join india GB must not integrate into Pakistani society. it is already integrated into Pakistani society!

there are some real gems mind you!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1267262840978714625

India’s non-military strategic methods explored to wrest back Azad Kashmir & Gilgit
Organised by Law and Society Alliance titled “India's Non-Military Options to Liberate Pak-Occupied Kashmir” on May 29 the participants were Lt. General (R) Ata Hasnain; Dr. Manish, at Gujarat Central University; and Siddharth Zarabi (a senior journalist).

NEW DELHI: A set of non-military strategic methods to wrest back Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan (GB) was explored at a recent webinar attended by a former General and academicians

Organised by Law and Society Alliance titled “India's Non-Military Options to Liberate Pak-Occupied Kashmir” on May 29 the participants were Lt. General (R) Ata Hasnain; Dr. Manish, at Gujarat Central University; and Siddharth Zarabi (a senior journalist).

Gen Hasnain elaborated on the current situation across the LoC and the LAC. Stating that GB has indeed been a fascinating topic for India, he argued that despite the tremendous political consensus of the 1994 resolution, Delhi failed in taking the advantage.

The reason behind India’s moves over GB to date has been lack of strategic culture among Indians. Arguing about the need of developing a long-term strategy amid geopolitical developments taking place in the Covid era, he said, “nothing works overnight. GB is not something that is like to be taken as a low lying issue, rather it is a challenge! A lot of things are changing and panning out during the pandemic and Ladakh is currently going through a rapid development phase. The action of Chinese is to send us and the world a message. It also reflects the fact that actually Pak is too worried.”

The post Covid period is going to witness non-traditional ways of dispute resolution. Due to economic losses, the ways of warfare are definitely going to be non-military.

Gen Hasnain explained the concepts and practical aspects of the ‘Hybrid War’ and Grey War’. He explained that the concept of hybrid war is defined by resorting to deniability, yet using sponsorship. Hybrid is a combination of different aspects of war. It can be a combination of military, economic, cyber, information warfare, and so on and so forth - which Pakistan has been resorting to for more than three decades.

A new concept has emerged called ‘Grey War’ - it is a method in which one finds political and psychological domain dominant. India has started to engage in such warfare very recently - just a few months back.

Information warfare was the focal point of the webinar, which was echoed by every speaker.

Gen Hasnain explained the strength of social media on the strategic front and argued that social media can not be efficient until we do not have a fixed strategy and plan. Unfortunately, we haven’t resorted to it.

The generational integration is going to take place in GB and India must ensure that GB should not integrate into Pakistani society. “We also must explore the Shia connect. We have a Shia connect with Turtuk, Kargil, and 25 million Shias across India. We need to integrate the Shia identity from Lucknow to Kargil. Social media shall indeed be a part of it. Looking at the diaspora, they have a huge GB, Mirpuri, and Azad Kashmir diaspora. We must look for exclusive meetings with those diasporas whenever our leaders visit foreign countries.”

Dr. Manish echoed the views and stated that India apparently lacks strategic culture. He further said, “we are victims of our own history. We should think about developing a strategic culture amongst the youth of this country. India has very rightful claims over Azad Kashmir based on the Instrument of Accession and resolutions passed by the Parliament. The new paradigm has developed because of the addition of the Chinese factor to the issue. There significant developments. By formally revising our claims over Azad Kashmir and Aksai Chin, India has rightly moved in the right direction.”

He quoted that instruments of coercive powers include military aid, propaganda, maritime intercepts, cyber ops, economic sanctions, supporting political oppositions, intelligence operations, etc are instruments. They have the potential to loosen the power of the state and lead to turmoil.

“Two major things that are important in our scenario. Firstly, India should invent most of the cyber tech power and energise and enlarge this domain. The content should be news, ideas, debate, social networking, entertainment, etc. Secondly, it should lend support to adversaries. We can do so by providing non- military and military aid to them. Pro-democracy opposition movements are suddenly increasing that are too intense. Most of the news literature and the research in the past century show that there have been well laid planned and massive efforts to raise pro-democracy movements. Such efforts tend to change the economy for a prolonged period. We should resort to such movements.”

Zarabi focussed on strategies to combat the disinformation campaign regarding GB, Azad Kashmir, and Jammu and Kashmir. He said that the challenge India faces in explaining its point of view to the world. The decision of 370 abrogation was an entirely internal matter of India. “But we were surprised to see the intensity of the global backlash - which was very coordinated and organised. The issues pertaining to Kashmir have been internationalised in Pakistan and indirectly supported by Chineses sponsored global media.”

For the last 30 years or more, Pakistan’s engagement with global media has been done at the level of Foreign Ministry, economic level, strategic level, with a focus on reportage lobby on global issues. We have not chosen to take the issue in an explicit way to take Pakistan to an international level. Pakistan has acted otherwise. Pak has an edge over global media in the misinformation campaign over Kashmir and surrounding areas. “I was surprised by the lack of knowledge and misinformation that senior journalists from the West had on Kashmir as a result of misinformation.”

Zarabi mentioned three points on non-military action on Azad Kashmir and CoK. “Firstly, as the GoI and all of us realised in 2019, that post 5 Aug, there was a barrage of misinformation and ignorance all over the world. Quality information needs to be uploaded over the web, detailed write-ups need to come up, if required- paid advertisements, knowledge-sharing events across knowledge capitals of the world, TV documentaries are a couple of things that are need of the hour. Secondly, supplementing the efforts of disinformation by diplomatic entities is required. Messages should be sent that Azad Kashmir and Cok should be brought in front of the world. Thirdly, a 24*7 researched-based streaming platform should be set up by Prasar Bharati that could work on tackling disinformation on Jammu and Kashmir issue and Punjab- Khalistan issue. The DD should work on the plan of 2016 - to create a 24*7 internet streaming portal by MIB and MEA.“


He concluded by arguing that the primary focus of India in non-military ways should be to work on winning information warfare.

its called creating an unrest, and then pushing terrorist from north of afghan into gilgit Balistan, to try to create bangladesh like situation

 

[Thumboor]

Pretty sickening how they'd rather start a disinformation campaign and try to divide people in AJK rather than make IOK better and give the people justice in such cases as kunan and pushpora mass rapes.

Hell any chance of getting AJK 'back' (lol it has never been controlled by India and never will be iA) has evaporated along with article 370 and the statehood of J&K.

Its obvious which side is occupied and now with the removal of article 370, the Indian side is both dejure and defacto occupied. It was a hilariously stupid move and may many more follow it iA.

Speaking as someone from AJK, it's very clear from the article that Indians have no clue about us or who we are. AJK and GB are separate and the people are separate too.

Any attempt to put them into the same pot is bound to end in failure. Any attempt to bring up sunni vs shia is bound to end in failure. Any Indian propaganda will always fail because it runs counter to the ground realities. Only justice can bring peace.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

https://www.google.com.pk/amp/s/www.thenews.com.pk/amp/522697-bail-plea-of-alleged-agent-rejected

We should have a pro active approach rather than a defensive one.

 

[Aspen]

most people don't know about

One or two years back they managed to lure few people from Kashmir and GB who are residing in West [UK and I think Germany] and financed them heavily to initiate something similar to low intensity violent movement but their contacts in Pakistan were neutralized by local authorities

The best way to deal with these people and pull the rug out from under these exiled Pakistani dissidents is to find holes in their logic.

For example, let's say some Pakistani dissident at an Indian panel decides to follow Indian narrative on Balochistan. They will claim to be speaking for Pakistan but in reality they are representing BLA. If they claim to be a representative of Pakistan, we can ask if they are willing to visit Pakistan, answer to that will obviously be no which will make it clear to everyone at that panel that their narrative is not accepted in Pakistan. Then they can be cornered into saying that they are representing BLA which is a banned organization in Pakistan and make it clear to everyone that their narrative is not Pakistani narrative but Indian narrative. And if they get pressured into visiting Pakistan, then Bam, they get arrested on arrival as representative of BLA which is banned in Pakistan. Win-Win.

 

[Jackdaws]

Webinar seems to want to attract maximum clicks during the Lockdown