India's Military Wants to Buy 1500 UAVs

[ptltejas]

Friend, i didnt say mig35, its mig skat range 4000km payload 2000kg, this is enough for us but there is some treaty which bans this.
So we can get that tech and we can develop our own.
Does IAF has any UCAV's of 2000kg and 2000k

This will cure the heel of mmrca? what it means sir?
UAV are possible to built by India just weight and watch.

 

[ptltejas]

We do not need much baging. UAVs and UCAVs battalion will be there. build a fighter planes like LCA much difficult than UAVs. wait for some time. Join hand with Israel and find a plane in a yr. more powerful than other countries.

 

[tvsram1992]

This will cure the heel of mmrca? what it means sir?
UAV are possible to built by India just weight and watch.

I mean russians are some what angry over mmrca deal as it made future of mig dark.
Ya UCAV's can be built by India no doubt but at what rate? And it takes some years to develop such a good tech with semi stealth design etc.

We do not need much baging. UAVs and UCAVs battalion will be there. build a fighter planes like LCA much difficult than UAVs. wait for some time. Join hand with Israel and find a plane in a yr. more powerful than other countries.

Building fighter and UCAV are different.
Fighter has multi role capabilities where as UCAV's are used for special purposes and they have restricted roles. UCAV's are mostly used to destroy some specific targets like radars etc and they can be used as suicide bombers(not in all cases).
UCAV's cant take own decisions and more over it is difficult to control them at longer ranges like 2000km so new arfificial intelligence softwares should be developed and many new things should be installed in UCAV's . More over we have tejas but not unmanned tejas since high technology is required to make a plane pilotless to make good and own decisions.
US may restrict tech transfer in case of israel with russia, no tot issues.

 

[ptltejas]

I mean russians are some what angry over mmrca deal as it made future of mig dark.
Ya UCAV's can be built by India no doubt but at what rate? And it takes some years to develop such a good tech with semi stealth design etc.

Building fighter and UCAV are different.
Fighter has multi role capabilities where as UCAV's are used for special purposes and they have restricted roles. UCAV's are mostly used to destroy some specific targets like radars etc and they can be used as suicide bombers(not in all cases).
UCAV's cant take own decisions and more over it is difficult to control them at longer ranges like 2000km so new arfificial intelligence softwares should be developed and many new things should be installed in UCAV's . More over we have tejas but not unmanned tejas since high technology is required to make a plane pilotless to make good and own decisions.
US may restrict tech transfer in case of israel with russia, no tot issues.

Dear PM my grievance was onthe same. if rus burning on mmrca its their problem. dont act like mohanman singh. be bravo on your decision. why they did not sent the mig35 in aero India 11? they knew that they shall lost the race. well mig scat yet not ready. not much typical technology. Design may choose from existingvworld UAVs, stealthy is not typical NAL can provide design in a month. we need to copy design only. other sub systems like communication directly and by satelite not a hard task simple tech for communication engineers. SAR raddar is typical. generally there is no need continue direction its follow pre planned path and changing is possible. we have tech in searcher to long range communication. not much hard pm. for drdo.
well LCA tejas UAV? it could be better as limit of g force stop its maneouvers so pilot did not get problems. If UAV might do better. F-22 has not this tech. but efforts need more than imagination. just LCA UAV idea not enough think about tech and specially of problems.

however i like this damn good idea we may sent them in very dangers zone to not to loss pilots.

 

[tvsram1992]

Dear PM my grievance was onthe same. if rus burning on mmrca its their problem. dont act like mohanman singh. be bravo on your decision. why they did not sent the mig35 in aero India 11? they knew that they shall lost the race. well mig scat yet not ready. not much typical technology. Design may choose from existingvworld UAVs, stealthy is not typical NAL can provide design in a month. we need to copy design only. other sub systems like communication directly and by satelite not a hard task simple tech for communication engineers. SAR raddar is typical. generally there is no need continue direction its follow pre planned path and changing is possible. we have tech in searcher to long range communication. not much hard pm. for drdo.
well LCA tejas UAV? it could be better as limit of g force stop its maneouvers so pilot did not get problems. If UAV might do better. F-22 has not this tech. but efforts need more than imagination. just LCA UAV idea not enough think about tech and specially of problems.

however i like this damn good idea we may sent them in very dangers zone to not to loss pilots.

I agree that it was expected that mig is lost. But the things cannot happen good if a war happens before 2017-2020. Hence we should take bold decisions. searcher is UAV but we need advanced UCAV's that can be used alternatively for strike roles instead of aircrafts. Yes NAL can provide design but how long will it take and at what rate can we produce it? So we need various types of UAV's the only problem is to induct them sooner ...
unmanned tejas? They are trying to develop it.One official said it might take 10 years. But unmanned fighters will not have the capability for good a2a combat. They are best options for strike roles at armed places.

Like AF its always good to have heavy class and medium class aircafts.

 

[Tshering22]

Let's wait for the plan to materialize. Last time we got excited about some major aerospace deal, I was a student. Hope this time we don't have to wait until my son or daughter is grown up enough to respond on this forum. .

 

[ptltejas]

I agree that it was expected that mig is lost. But the things cannot happen good if a war happens before 2017-2020. Hence we should take bold decisions. searcher is UAV but we need advanced UCAV's that can be used alternatively for strike roles instead of aircrafts. Yes NAL can provide design but how long will it take and at what rate can we produce it? So we need various types of UAV's the only problem is to induct them sooner ...
unmanned tejas? They are trying to develop it.One official said it might take 10 years. But unmanned fighters will not have the capability for good a2a combat. They are best options for strike roles at armed places.

Like AF its always good to have heavy class and medium class aircafts.

what about the Nirbhay missile. many missiles may better as cruz stealthy long range strike.

Can UAV mig scat launch brahmos 2.5 ton we need UAV like that.

 

[tvsram1992]

what about the Nirbhay missile. many missiles may better as cruz stealthy long range strike.

Can UAV mig scat launch brahmos 2.5 ton we need UAV like that.

Sure we can make like that. That can make brahmos range to 2300 km. It can launch kh-31 missiles which our mki's can launch.
Not all cases nirbhay is useful. Like if u want to bomb the tanks. U can use mig skat like UCAV to bomb on it accurately by locating the position of target.A missile cannot search for target and destroy it at lesser distances.
A missile can atmost destroy a whole building. We can destroy multiple targets slowly and steadily with UCAV's we can mount guns. We can equip it with a2a missiles etc. Missiles are used for special purposes to destroy a specific target or area.
And the best thing is Mig skat range is 4000km so it can be reovered ie we can use it again and again unlike missile once used which will be destroyed.
More over nirbhay can be carried by mig skat by making some changes.

 

[ptltejas]

Sure we can make like that. That can make brahmos range to 2300 km. It can launch kh-31 missiles which our mki's can launch.
Not all cases nirbhay is useful. Like if u want to bomb the tanks. U can use mig skat like UCAV to bomb on it accurately by locating the position of target.A missile cannot search for target and destroy it at lesser distances.
A missile can atmost destroy a whole building. We can destroy multiple targets slowly and steadily with UCAV's we can mount guns. We can equip it with a2a missiles etc. Missiles are used for special purposes to destroy a specific target or area.
And the best thing is Mig skat range is 4000km so it can be reovered ie we can use it again and again unlike missile once used which will be destroyed.
More over nirbhay can be carried by mig skat by making some changes.

there r different targets with different bombs and munition. nirbhay may be used to distroy those targets. there r more than 30 types munitins will be used in it. see tomahawk on you tube.
anti tank missiles are enough. on battle field tbere lies 100 tanks at a time UAV hardly have 3-4 missiles. at that time ballistic missiles can destroy many targets.
missiles like Israels long range spike and nimrod may used to distroy targets. they have range 25 and 36 respectively compare to nag 12km.

 

[rajusri]

hmm

good

Pak should offer them our UAV.good chance for integrated dynamics and satuma

lol Our university students make better UAV than you. Read about Netra UAV built by some students.

 

[sahanshu]

there is also a bunch of IIT ians who have formed a company called aurora integrated systems nd they make UAV's 100% indigenous built out of indian material and technology.... these guys are funded by ratan tata nd he is taking personal interest in the company.

 

[RealNapster]

this type of mini UAVs made by universities for experiment

Do you have any thing like Rustam or Lakshya PTA ot DRDO Nishant ?????

Do you have them ??
If yes !

Then why to buy 1500 from another country ??

 

[The_Sidewinder]

Do you have them ??
If yes !

Then why to buy 1500 from another country ??

We have them. And if you look at the thread its 4 years old. No further development took place about importing the UAVs. So we are going to make them ourselve.

 

[RealNapster]

We have them. And if you look at the thread its 4 years old. No further development took place about importing the UAVs. So we are going to make them ourselve.

Good to see that..

 

[SpArK]

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