What's new

India's First indigenous aircraft carrier to be launched this December.

I doubt: Most of the components are tested on Destroyers and frigate India makes.. Indian navy is not like IAF, Many components are already operational...

Barrack 8 SAM will be operational by nest year on next Kolkata class destroyer... I am hopeful that by 2014, We can see INS Virat floating...

What you say might be true ....but one of the major components are electrical cabling and wiring of the entire system...plus to integrate all the different systems even if they are tested on other ships takes time....and we dont even know whether all of these systems have been integrated together ever before ...it is not easy as it sounds....anyways lets hope that it comes around in 2014...
 
besides the 3 we r currently making for the Vikrant class doesn't anyone else think we should go for nuclear powered supercarriers like US has? like the other dude posted a CBG consists of 1 supercarrier 2 destroyers 2 or more frigates 2 or more subs 1 support ship etc, the best thing about nuclear powered carriers are that they don't have to be refueled.... for 20 years
 
Just having an aircraft carrier isn't enough. The Indian Navy's CBG (Carrier Battle Group) usually consists of two destroyers (usually of the Delhi Class, previously Kashins were used) and two or more frigates, (usually a combination of Brahmaputra, Talwar or Shivalik class) and one support ship and possibly a submarine. The question is, would this battle group be viable for sea control in the Indian Ocean or South China Sea?

Let's take a look at a typical US Navy CSG (Carrier Strike Group):

> A supercarrier, which is the centerpiece of the strike group and also serves as the flagship for the CSG Commander and his staff.

> A carrier air wing (CVW) typically consisting of up to nine squadrons including AWACs.

> One to two Aegis guided missile cruisers (CG), of the Ticonderoga class—a multi-mission surface combatant, equipped with BGM-109 Tomahawk missiles for long-range strike capability.

> A destroyer squadron (DESRON) commanded by a surface community captain (O-6) who commands the escort destroyers, with two to three guided missile destroyers (DDG), of the Arleigh Burke class—a multi-mission surface combatant, used primarily for anti-aircraft (AAW) and anti-submarine (ASW) warfare, but which also carries Tomahawk missiles for long-range strike capability.

> Two to three attack submarines, usually of the Los Angeles-class used to screen the strike group against hostile surface ships and submarines, but which also carry Tomahawk missiles for long-range strike capability.

> A combined ammunition, oiler and supply ship (AOE/AOR), usually Supply-class (T-AOE); provides logistic support.

800px-Abraham-Lincoln-battlegroup.jpg

The Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group

India's CBGs just having a couple of destroyers and one or two frigates is a formality. Unless we are fully equipped on the lines of the American CSGs it would just be a charade to show the world we are a 'blue water' navy! So, do we have the wherewithal for a lethal and potent CBG? The jury is out on that one!

You make a very valid point- a ACC is only as powerful as the CBG she is part of. But with the IN inducting 100+ ships in the next decade including advanced tankers, stealth frigates and destroyers aswell as lethal subs and potent air assets, I think by the time the navy is operating multiple ACCs they will be well commented and protected.

The IN isn't stupid and their induction process and acquisitions seem very sensible.
 
dont think it will be operational any time before 2017 and INS Vishal before 2020.
there is a lot of work still pending. actually making it fully functional will take 2-3 years, then it will be tested for at least 2 years.

It will not be delayed like P-17 and P-15A because those ships are built with Russian steel and Russia usually delayed sending them to India. but in case of IAC, it is Indian everything, even the steel which is better than the Russian supplied one.
 
What about Naval LRTR in First Pic?

I think it is naval version of LRTR radar for tracking missiles and fighters at longer ranges. New version of LRTR said to have 1500 km range.

Its Israeli. We will also bve using same MF-STAR as in Kolkatta class destroyer.

MF-STAR is the 4 static AESA, not the large rotating one. The large one could be naval LRTR.
 
A wonderful news guys... Waiting for that very moment...
 
And Is the AESA radar a Naval version of the "Arudra Radar"
 
And Is the AESA radar a Naval version of the "Arudra Radar"

There are two different types of AESA Elta MF-STAR and a large Indian AESA for long range early warning. I think like in the photo it will be naval version of LRTR-2. It will be very powerful radar.

Something like this. It is S1850M radar on the Type-45 destroyers.

ThalesS1850MonDaringIMG_0654.jpg




Arudhra is Israeli Elta 2084. there is an Indian MPR prototypes taking shape though.
 
The carrier itself is ultra modern with latest weapons and sensors but not the aircraft it will carry! Mig-29K! :hitwall:
 
The carrier itself is ultra modern with latest weapons and sensors but not the aircraft it will carry! Mig-29K! :hitwall:
Unless we expect to be facing F-35's at high seas, these are sufficient. Remember these are smaller sized carriers. Even the Chinese are struggling to get a suitable aircraft for their carrier.
 
India's CBGs just having a couple of destroyers and one or two frigates is a formality. Unless we are fully equipped on the lines of the American CSGs it would just be a charade to show the world we are a 'blue water' navy! So, do we have the wherewithal for a lethal and potent CBG? The jury is out on that one!
Indian CBG may not need as many extra ship because the carrier will be self-sustaining with full package. Yes it may need one or two extra destroyers and one or two submarines. But the carrier itself will be capable of long range early warning and surface to air missile a modern combat management system.
 
There are two different types of AESA Elta MF-STAR and a large Indian AESA for long range early warning. I think like in the photo it will be naval version of LRTR-2. It will be very powerful radar.

Something like this. It is S1850M radar on the Type-45 destroyers.

ThalesS1850MonDaringIMG_0654.jpg




Arudhra is Israeli Elta 2084. there is an Indian MPR prototypes taking shape though.

are we going to put AESA radar on Vikrant?
 
are we going to put AESA radar on Vikrant?

Yes. two types.

1> MF-STAR (4 AESA panels). Same mounted on the P-15A destroyers.
2> A large early warning AESA radar similar to S1850M radar on the Type-45 destroyers. It could be naval version of LRTR-2.



MF-STAR on P-15A
project15akolkataclass0.jpg
 
Yes. two types.

1> MF-STAR (4 AESA panels). Same mounted on the P-15A destroyers.
2> A large early warning AESA radar similar to S1850M radar on the Type-45 destroyers. It could be naval version of LRTR-2.



MF-STAR on P-15A
project15akolkataclass0.jpg

will it be indigenous?
 

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom