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only than we can be on par in defence with india
The very article on which the thread is based has mentioned how India's Cold Start is to be addressed by Pakistan.
To be on par with India in defence, one has to be economically strong with political stability.
Currently a Pakistani Minister is in Saudi Arabia asking them to bolster the Pakistani Budget.
2008 and especially 2002 were not the right time to attack for India because simply put India lacked the capabilities that were needed to ensure a comprehensive defeat that was politically acceptable. Even if India managed to kill more Pakistani troops as compared to hers, what exactly were the objectives? I have read that the objectives were to punish Pakistan, but even if India manages to do exactly that but in the end withdraws from the land she captures, that is still a propaganda victory for Pakistan.
2002 was absolutely the right time for India to attack and if things would have gone right for India, trust me she would have attacked.
It failed big time because it took 3 weeks for Indian strike formations to reach their war time positions against Pakistan, while in less than 2 weeks Pakistani divisions from as far away as Balochistan and KP were at the Indian borders. By the time the Indian strike formations reached their war time positions, Pakistani troops were well dug in taking the advantage away from India. Without firing a single bullet, the Indians lost almost 800 soldiers.
Same goes for what happened in 2008, the Indian Army could not deliver a victory that was politically acceptable for the Indian people and that is why the Indian Army stood still.
I dont know where did you get the idea that PA is loosing its sleep because of the Cold Start, infact it has only helped our Armed Forces in opening their eyes and forcing them to engage in their modernization plans. After staying static for a decade, they are finally acquiring technology to close in the gaps where the Indians previously enjoyed absolute superiority. Its quite clear to me that the Indian Army is loosing its sleep and that is why your senior officers are raising concerns in the media, i dont see the same happening on our side of the border. But than again, if you close one of your eyes to reality this is exactly what is going to happen.
The thread was going pretty good with very informed discussions until a couple of people ( blackops,BRIC,relativiti, SR blackbird)) showed up sh*t all over it. I think the MODS really need to do something about this. I am sick and tired of every thread being turned into a d**k measuring contest. Regardless of the flags, tehy should be punished.
Now, India can thrust in at the word go, even before the world reacted, and go to the limit
You have the right to unleash your "freedom fighters" which we disprove of. We have the right to react and you will have the right to retaliate with what is left.
Is Cold Start something that ads a burden upon Pakistan, is inherently dangerous? If you agree that Cold Start is something to be avoided - how can Pakistan avoid it ??
2002: India makes huge hue and cries and launches Operation Parakram, Pakistan mobilizes at a much faster rate than India and reaches the border long before India can. India is left red faced and made to look impotent against a much more smaller enemy.
2008: After the Mumbai attacks, Indian FM is threatening Pakistan with war by saying 'All Options are on the Table". IAF AVM comes out on TV and states that they have earmarked 5000 targets inside Pakistan. Pakistan calls out India's bluff and starts to mobilize, the Indian leaders realizing that they cannot force Pakistan into military submission, start coming out with statements such as "War is not the answer". India is again made to look impotent infront of a much more smaller enemy.
The results are right infront of you, you just have to open your eyes to see them. Unfortunately if you close your eyes to the reality and start believing whatever propaganda your Government feeds you, obviously you wont be able to see the reality.
Well i once got a chance to talk to a major genral as i live in his city he told me in a very light way that india is doing the same what USA did to soviets just put preasure on the economy reast all will follow and yes it looks like it is working to counter india pakistan did raise its defence budget by 17% while as india reduced it to a more lower % of its gdp at the end to counter india pak will buy plus the money being dpent on wot