India's biggest Lie exposed, "No Surgical Strike" says World Body

[Lion-King]

Thread after thread..Take rest fellows..
Replacing UN with world body wouldn't make it relevant..
No country gives rats arse on this including UN body. They aren't powerful enough or by intention won't take any decision.Whether proof or not this issue will get diluted after few days.Major powers will only reply the moment they see their interest lies on this..

Tell me which powerful enough country has verified your sir g kal strike? We showed you US and UN not verifying it either.

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See how their PM reacted immediately after India's announcement. He condemned the operation but didn't deny it. It is their army chaps who started the denial.

It is very possible that India is not releasing evidence for providing Pakistan a window by which to escape without needing to go to war.

You should better read what he said in his statement. He condemned violation of ceasefire by Indian army and rejected the claim of sir g kal strike. So how can you say that he didn't deny it? Who are you fooling?

 

[Vapnope]

So everyone is wrong and only India is right. Makes sense SMH

 

[PakSword]

Why are you so disturbed? You were not invaded, or were you?

Not disturbed, but concerned that the liars were conveying a wrong message to 22 countries about presence of the non-existent "terror camps". Pakistan had to respond and she responded responsibly. We have exposed the lies of your government in front of the world. We had the courage to take international media to the places "invaded" by your Hanuman army, in front of LoC. You can't even take them to Srinagar.

Pakistani public doesn't care two hoots about the Indian sir-ji-kal strikes. See the above image of a webpage of a popular Pakistani forum. What was being discussed in that forum is a true representation of what general public was discussing on 30-Sep-2016. It was the same day when your army crossed LoC in their dreams.

 

[zebra7]

Desperate India is furious at the United Nations and World Observer bodies for rejecting its black propaganda of surgical strike along the Line of Control in Kashmir.

The UN mission monitoring the ceasefire said it “has not directly observed” any firing along the LoC.
Responding to a question on the “surgical strikes” claim of Indian Army in Kashmir, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon’s spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said at a daily press briefing that the UN Military Observer Group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) had not “directly observed” any firing.

“They are obviously aware of the reports of these presumed violations and are talking to the relevant concerned authorities,” he said.

Read more: UN mission finds no proof of Indian ‘surgical strike’ claims

But Indian leadership led by hardliner Prime Minister Narendra Modi is still tweaking the script of the loosely choreographed drama in a desperate bid to fix plot holes in the storyline.

Showing anger at the UNMOGIP in extreme frustration, India’s Permanent Representative to the UN Syed Akbaruddin said the facts on the ground do not change whether somebody has “observed” it or not.
“I have nothing to say because what (Dujarric) said was ‘directly observed’. It’s a call that they have to take. I cannot place myself in their boots and directly observe something,” said the Indian envoy, when asked to comment on Dujarric’s remarks.


Akbaruddin said the “facts on the ground do not change whether somebody acknowledges or not. Facts are facts, we presented the facts and that’s where we stand.”

Meanwhile, Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh after inaugurating a ‘smart toilet’ in New Delhi on Sunday when quizzed by reporters on doubts raised by Pakistan over the operation as India did not release the footage of the operation, said, “Just wait and watch,” Indian Express reported.

Read more: ‘Just wait and watch’, says Indian Home Minister about evidence of surgical strikes
India claimed on September 29 that it conducted surgical strikes inside Kashmir in revenge attack in Srinagar that killed 18 soldiers.

On the other hand, a Japanese magazine issued a report ruling out the possibility of surgical strikes at the LoC, in the presence of Pakistan’s missile system. “Pakistan’s air surveillance is also highly advanced,” it stated.

The report further said that Indian military is not capable of conducting surgical strikes in the first place, for it lacks the defence equipment required in such operations.

Quite contrary to India’s coward attitude , Pakistani military took local and foreign journalists on a rare visit to forward locations along the Line of Control to debunk the myth of Indian surgical strikes.

The Pakistan Army vehemently rejected all the Indian claims of the so-called surgical strikes, saying that no such incident had taken place and the Indian lies had been exposed before the world.

It said anyone who tried any misadventure inside Pakistan will get response beyond his imagination.
“No such incident has taken place nor any such will be allowed to happen in future and if the adversary attempted so, it will be responded to with an ever strongest force,” Director General (DG) Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Lieutenant General Asim Saleem Bajwa said.

Briefing the visiting journalists, representing both foreign and local media, at two different locations along the LoC, Boxor and Hotsping, he said the Indian claims of carrying out surgical strikes across the LoC were baseless, absurd and unfounded, which were meant to not only misguide the Indian people but also the international community.

“No physical violation of the LoC has taken place, nor it will be allowed to happen by our resilient forces,” he reiterated in reply to a question.

“The Pakistan Army is fully prepared to tackle any misadventure and any such attempt will be responded to in a more effective and forceful manner,” he said.

Read more: Denial won’t bring back the dead

General Officer Commanding of Bhimber Sector Major General Chiragh Haider apprised the journalists that no physical violation of the LoC happened on the night between September 28 and September 29 as claimed by the Indian Director General Military Operations.

The journalists were earlier given a full picture about the geographical and physical location at the Boxor Formation by Brigade Commander Brigadier Furqan Moazam. The entire scenario was drawn to make them understand that how the Indian forces had carried out unprovoked firing due to which a Pakistani soldier embraced Shahadat.

At the foothills of Boxor Formation, two villages of about 130,000 inhabitants are situated whose residents have no clue about any intrusion by the Indian troops. They confirmed that only crossfire had taken place on the particular night and nothing else.

The DG ISPR said the visit of media persons was arranged with the purpose that they should independently probe the Indian claim.

The DG ISPR said the ceasefire violation along the LoC was a routine affair and labelling it as a surgical strike was totally baseless and a pack of ‘white lies’. He said in 2003 Pakistan had announced unilateral ceasefire which was later ratified by India. Pakistan, he said, had been exercising maximum restraint by not initiating fire. The Pakistan side, he said, hardly initiated fire while in most of the cases it was the other side which had initiated firing and then it became necessary for Pakistan to silence the guns of the adversary through an effective response.

Lieutenant General Asim Bajwa said same was the case of the night between September 28 and Sept 29 when the Indian side opened fire of small to medium calibre at around 02:00 hours and the same was responded in a befitting manner. The fire from across the LoC continued till 08:00 hours with a matchless response from the Pakistani side and the same morning it was named as a “surgical strike”.

In that specific case, he questioned as to how Indian special forces personnel landed on the Pakistani soil and then left the area without coming into the knowledge of Pakistani troops who were deployed in an alert state.

“If they had sent paratroopers, what was their purpose or aim to be here and how they returned to their country?” he posed another question, referring to the Indian claims.

When asked to comment on the hotline contact between the DGMOs of the two countries, he said they did speak on the issue and the Pakistani DGMO lodged a protest on the incident of unprovoked Indian firing that claimed the lives of two Pakistani soldiers. He had straightaway rejected the claim of Indian DGMO regarding the surgical strike, stating that no such incident had taken place.

The DG ISPR stated that the UNMOGIP with seven posts on the Pakistani side of the LoC had been observing the situation while India had not been offering them access to locations on its side.

Answering a question, he said inadvertent crossing of the LoC was a routine matter and if any such case was found, it would be treated in accordance with the standing order procedures (SOP).

“We are prepared for any eventuality. The other side had been escalating the situation which is being minutely observed by the world forums,” he added.

Pointing out the situation in the Indian Held Kashmir (IHK), he said it was the 84th consecutive day of curfew in the IHK where the people had been demanding their right to franchise in accordance with the UN resolutions.

He said the struggle of the IHK people was completely indigenous. The present situation along the LoC, he added, was an Indian attempt to divert the attention of the world forums from the situation in the IHK, especially at the time of UN General Assembly session.

And the Source is Pakistanitoday.pk

India not capable of surgical strike: UK media

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  • October 1, 2016 11:32 pm

LONDON (Web Desk) – A surgical strike by Indian forces at Line of Control (LoC) begs the question of whether Indian forces have the capability to launch such a sophisticated and coordinated attack, The Diplomat reported.

On Thursday India claimed it had conducted a “surgical strike” in Pakistan controlled Kashmir across the Line of Control (LoC).

Pakistan denied that India carried out a surgical strike and ISPR Director General Lieutenant General Asim Saleem Bajwa said the unprovoked fire was painted as a surgical strike by senior Indian officials apparently a move to satisfy the public.

Surgical strikes can be conducted through airborne or artillery based precision guided strikes or ground force based assaults; both of which require sophisticated intelligence collection, platforms to conduct collections, and surveillance of target sites and objectives.

India is still on the cusp of building a sophisticated and modernized asymmetrical capability to conduct counterterror operations, while much of its forces are still organized and trained on Cold War models, the paper revealed.

Over the last decade, India has spearheaded efforts to modernize her military to include domestic production of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). Rostum I and Rostum II could provide India with an air platform capable of surgical strikes, long loiter times for target surveillance, and intelligence collection. However, these platforms are still in development and Rostum II just began test trials this summer. India’s drone development program is still in its infancy.

As for artillery, in 2015, India and BAE finalized contracts for the sale and development of new M777 155 mm howitzer system, capable of firing the new Excalibur GPS guided shell. However, development and production of the artillery system is not slated to begin until 2018.

India does currently field a Russian GPS guided munition called the Krasnopol, though its precision fire support is within a 30-40 km radius and its accuracy is far less when compared to the new Excalibur shell.

As far as precision strike missile capability, India has recently acquired the U.S. anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) Hellfire, which has frequently been used for targeting operations by U.S. forces. India is currently producing a domestic ATGM called the Helina, a helicopter launched precision strike missile, though this missile is still undergoing testing.

In other words, much of India’s asymmetrical warfare capability is still being developed and tested. The examples above are by no means an exhaustive list but it certainly details a capacity not fully developed by Indian forces.

Furthermore, a cross border air raid by either heliborne assets or drones would still prove exceedingly difficult as Pakistan boasts an incredibly impressive air defense system. Pakistan controlled Kashmir is a high threat area for shoulder fired surface to air missiles. Any air operation over the territory would be under threat from these weapon systems.

India, was also not capable, of singly handed created a country named Bangladesh, with U.S and U.K Carrier fleet ready to foiled the indian attempt. Leave aside our capablity (military) but only thing we need is the Political Will.

Lol we have killed 30-35 of your soldiers in cross border firing and injured alot of them. What on earth are you talking about?

Still watching the Propaganda video spread by ISPR, of the Artillery Shell distroying 3 Indian Post, which is 4 year old video, of the CRPF post attacked by Naxals.

indians have been totally & utterly exposed. Now I'm just wondering when will india make a bollywood fantasy movie about the raid......lol

You are the one who intialy even denied the Op Neptune Spear aka OBL raid, rest assure you will get what you want, when the right moment comes, till then live in fantasy and Lala Land.

Give it a rest guys....Their MASS PROPAGANDA has been countered successfully...Every media outlet in world exposed their lies...Now we should go back to their atrocities in Kashmir which is the main issue...!

LOL

International slap to Indian media Arab goswami ajit doval parrikar and last but not the least pm modi

Who let the dogs out who who who who
Who did the surgical strike who who who
Indians prooof stop creating proofs in Bollywood studios

Just look arround yourself, tell which country is standing beside you in

1. UN
2. Uri Attack
3. Saarc
4. Post Surgical Strike by SF
5. Sabre ratting support of Nuke Nuke.

 

[cerberus]

Over the last decade, India has spearheaded efforts to modernize her military to include domestic production of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). Rostum I and Rostum II could provide India with an air platform capable of surgical strikes, long loiter times for target surveillance, and intelligence collection. However, these platforms are still in development and Rostum II just began test trials this summer. India’s drone development program is still in its infancy.

After reading this I have serious doubt about Professionalism by UK Media Though the Original Title is Misquoted Like obivious

The back Bone of indian UAV Reconnaissance inventory are IAI Heron & IAI searcher which are over 200+in Inventory

 

[Lion-King]

so why are such threads popping up every 5 minutes ? And your DG taking the jornos to LOC to show them god knows what. And your diplomats going around pleading that nothing of this sort happened. This shows utter desperation.

Looks like your Army, which claimed to be superhuman likes, are scared that they will be caught for what they are really.

Yes DG ISPR gave a media briefing in two areas where India claimed to have carried out stage drama. It was to show the world that nothing has happened and nothing can happen except Indian government fooling their own poor people.

 

[Khan_21]

Still watching the Propaganda video spread by ISPR, of the Artillery Shell distroying 3 Indian Post, which is 4 year old video, of the CRPF post attacked by Naxals.

Talking about when we roasted your soldiers during 2013 -2015 cross border firing incidents. You might want to read those.

 

[SSG commandos]

 

[PakSword]

Thread after thread..Take rest fellows..
Replacing UN with world body wouldn't make it relevant..
No country gives rats arse on this including UN body. They aren't powerful enough or by intention won't take any decision.Whether proof or not this issue will get diluted after few days.Major powers will only reply the moment they see their interest lies on this..

Hey are you the same person who works in one of the Big4s in UAE?

 

[zebra7]

Talking about when we roasted your soldiers during 2013 -2015 cross border firing incidents. You might want to read those.

LOL leave aside Indian Army, the BSF, Border Security Force have the muscle and the fire power to silence, which we have displayed to queit you unprovoke firing and shelling which forces your PM to run to UN, crying. I.A is only deployed along the LOC, its only BSF which are deployed along the international borders.

Is this the same group, which under the Command on the world's no. 1 General Mushraf tried hard to take over Siachin, and get the Blow back by our Regular forces.

Yes DG ISPR gave a media briefing in two areas where India claimed to have carried out stage drama. It was to show the world that nothing has happened and nothing can happen except Indian government fooling their own poor people.

Don't worry, they will not tell you that those Dead bodies are dumped now, and the Saint Hafiz Sayeed carried out Janaza in Lahore on Friday, and give Gigad Babkhi to take revenge, and give order to Nawaz and Raheel Sharif Brother and Co.
Read the Poster behind him, you will get the Answer, for whom they are doing such condolence.

 

[vermaac]

Yes DG ISPR gave a media briefing in two areas where India claimed to have carried out stage drama. It was to show the world that nothing has happened and nothing can happen except Indian government fooling their own poor people.

Why is it so important to do that? Who benefits? The Pak army? and then how do we know that he skipped the actual area? who would know that?

Why don't you realise that it is in India interest to provide an escape route to pakistan so that war is not forced, and at the same time to strengthen Pak PM's hands vis a vis the army which has a vested interest in keeping relations with India tense.

 

[SHAH07]

Such desperation to prove that nothing happened ! whatever Pakistanis do, there will always be a reasonable suspicion that they were invaded but could not retaliate out of fear.

Not just us but the whole world is rejecting your foolish claims so don't come up with stupid arguments

 

[Tipu7]

Don't worry, they will not tell you that those Dead bodies are dumped now, and the Saint Hafiz Sayeed carried out Janaza in Lahore on Friday, and give Gigad Babkhi to take revenge, and give order to Nawaz and Raheel Sharif Brother and Co.
Read the Poster behind him, you will get the Answer, for whom they are doing such condolence.

What Hafiz Saeed?
He was killed in Surgical strike

 

[vermaac]

Not just us but the whole world is rejecting your foolish claims so don't come up with stupid arguments

The world gives two hoots about what India or pakistan do......

 

[iby32]

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where is the proof? I thought pakistanis always produced proofs for everything.....

where is your proof of sir jee kal strike with intursion from 5-7 points of your heliborn paratroopers came and went back undetected unhurt during the operation of 4 to 5 hours no one heard any firing no deadbodies of militants no destruction in area still your stealth para comandos done an operation when whole world is denying your claim