India’s attitude points to desire for war: Sartaj Aziz

[Kompromat]

What exactly do you see from the Indian side that causes you to believe that we are planning to invade?

Real on the ground events would be nice. Not the mouthing off from both sides.

Too many people believing in too many myths having too much power.

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india never invaded anyone .. not in past not in futurre ...
we want weapon to protect ourself ..
why india wil have war when its own economy need money to fund infra

Okay

 

[doppelganger]

That is one of another popular yet silly beliefs Indians hold that India unites Pakistan.

We've never ever seen you fight as one against any other foe.

Too many people believing in too many myths having too much power.

You mean like flying saucers and such?

 

[pursuit of happiness]

That is one of another popular yet silly beliefs Indians hold that India unites Pakistan.

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think why.. kerry meet indina polticiain here
but meet army general in pak..
its your army genral go for foring trips and met head of state
its your army chaginf your own constituion by military court .. is it as per consitution of pak? if yes which article ?
so why any one shoudl not have that percption

 

[SarthakGanguly]

That is one of another popular yet silly beliefs Indians hold that India unites Pakistan.

You are an exception. I know India is not your motivation. Actually to an extent it is not.
For example, had we been a Muslim nation, would there have been an issue? Nope, we would have had problems, no doubt - but not to this level.
The perception of India has now gone deep into the Pak psyche, one that got a terrible bruise in 71. Which is one reason why you desire 'Qisas' so much. Years of 'Pakistan studies' has done the rest.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Too many people believing in too many myths having too much power.



Okay

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we can agree do disagree but we have data to prove
if you have otherwise please do

We were less likely to see a war that no one is going to win. Pakistan won't invade India, that would leave only one option...

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war never won by any side.. its only who lost minimum.. can call win if they think so is it worth it

 

[Kompromat]

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we can agree do disagree but we have data to prove
if you have otherwise please do
war never won by any side.. its only who lost minimum.. can call win if they think so is it worth it

Precisely why the real losers of any war, the civilians should stop men who'd duck in nuclear fall out shelters from waging such a war to begin with. What better way to do it then telling the civilians how costly it would be?

You are an exception. I know India is not your motivation. Actually to an extent it is not.
For example, had we been a Muslim nation, would there have been an issue? Nope, we would have had problems, no doubt - but not to this level. The perception of India has now gone deep into the Pak psyche, one that got a terrible bruise in 71. Which is one reason why you desire 'Qisas' so much. Years of 'Pakistan studies' has done the rest.

Qisas is part of our culture.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Precisely why the real losers of any war, the civilians should stop men who'd duck in nuclear fall out shelters from waging such a war to begin with. What better way to do it then telling the civilians how costly it would be?

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you are right in message .. wrong on choosing of word and messge
see your words and where its directed in post no 2..
no one will deny that people is and are ultimate sufferers.
but calling mass killing is what not acceptabel
civilain cant stop anyone..
let me ask you again ..
who gave mushaf/ or some top genral tape in bijing hotel to usa .in kargil war?

 

[rockstar08]

God save PDF.

The same PDF who made you TT ? lol yeah God save PDF when they made Indians as TT

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time will prove it

how cute is to see Indians chanting here to be so peaceful here and on the other side their National Chutiya Adviser openly speaking about RAW operations in Pakistan, working undercover as imams .. and still Indians living in the delusion on their Angelized civilization ? Indian will try to do this mis-adventure real soon , nothing expect from the nation who bring the mass murderer in power and give him the key to the nukes ... its same as Hitler get the nukes .....

 

[lavenge lavenge]

THAT my friend is called war. Any war in South Asia will not be limited to targeting military installations.

IndoPak Nuclear War Would Kill 2 Billion People, End Civilization with famine | Study

Stop consumping Kool-Aid of Anti-War NGO's, when it suits your agenda.


A 30Kt Nuke has a 240m fireball radius, 800m Airblast radius and 1.5Km Radiation radius and Zero fallout . It would be a miracle if an Indo-Pak nuclear war, with pathetic arsenal of 300 nukes of puny 25-30Kt between them, could kill 100million people. Niether India nor Pak has 1000's of nuke required to cause massive death, nor Nukes like Tsara Bomba which could contaminate enviorment with radioactive fallout.

OTOH, If India has Thermonuclear weapons as India claims, Pakistan is fuc.ked in more ways than a corner street wh.ore. The fallout will kill those who survive intial megaton range blast. It is U-238 Tamper in H-Bombs which gives out maximum energy, and is responsible for most of fallout. A-Bombs/primary charge of H-Bombs, have at max 35-40Kg of U-235/Pu-239 which is laughably small to cause fallout (Newsflash: There is pratically zero fallout from 25-30Kt nukes; The reason why people could live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki even after they were Nuked).

This one won't be the same..

What would not be same?

Artillery strike on Lahore would kill more people than a Nuke. It is not that both countries did not had means to cause mass casualties in past.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

@Abu Zolfiqar @The-Authority @Zaalim @Horus


Why do we even have to prove anything here? Will we gain anything from this discussion or reach a conclusion of this useless discussion except seeing more chest thumping?

For me I am pretty much satisfied with our capability, if they want a war they will get one hell of a war, until then I am signing off from this thread my dose of Indian superiority being fed to me is running dangerously high need to take a Piss so its excreted from my system.

No I was just replying to the dot-heads here who suddenly think they are military experts

like that indiot..sorry i mean indian who claimed that india "taught Pakistan a lesson" and decimated our "military logistical infrastructure" (i got a good laugh from that one)

they'll learn

 

[Cortana]

I think pakistan should bomb out india they have got the technology

 

[I.R.A]

they'll learn

Being optimistic I guess. in their case

I think pakistan should bomb out india they have got the technology

If the need arises and we are forced to defend ourselves against an aggressor then may be we will bomb out hell out of this region including Bangla and others. For the time being we say again we are not the aggressors.

 

[Cortana]

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Nobody ordered you post pictures of your dildo.

Example of Gross insubordination.

REPORTED

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

7+ infantry battalions @ Kargil Heights deployed across frontage of 120 km+ extending to a depth of 11 km; in these 120 km frontage hundreds of posts were established by 5 battalions Northern Light Infantry (NLI) and 2 battalions of Sindh Regiment & AZAD Kashmir Regiment

Of these posts - the smallest was manned by 5, largest manned by 20. There were no bunkers on the heights, just sunkers (made of stones)

These MEN had no overhead cover. It was a covert operation, and even at later stages of the war because of sanctions most of the PAF fleet was grounded due to lack of spares. These MEN contended with about 400+ enemy artillery guns while sitting in exposed positions...A logistics supply system which was faltering. These MEN kept fighting till ammo and food ran out

So to suggest that our military - whether regular or irregular forces at that time - were "frozen in fear" I'd say you or others are just plain RETARDED and don't know a lick bout the fighting spirit in us, or for that matter the types of conditions or the types of considerations you need to keep in mind.....despite an array of difficulty the enemy was kept at bay and while there were material and manpower casualties we still retain the heights (e.g. 5353 @ Drass sector) which do hold some significance for us. People who are scared of death or "Frozen in fear" are not hungry for jihad and martyrdom for their country. Fear alone can be a natural emotion but drive, faith and values you get from training and battle help you overcome those fear and the spirit of jihad is something that you people wouldnt understand.

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Nobody ordered you post pictures of your dildo.

Example of Gross insubordination.

a possible future gift for your giant pu$$y

 

[Cortana]

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Nobody ordered you post pictures of your dildo.

Example of Gross insubordination.

you are such a studpid person GUYS report this person ................. he has no stamina to digest criticism lets bann this person .