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Indians Burning over success of Waar.

I am not sure with all the innuendo about RAW that it would be released in India.

By the way if the movie has not made any profit then how can you call it a hit. A super hit is one which makes about 5 times its making cost. So, if Waar cost 20 crores and add 10 crores for marketing then it should make receipts of 150 crores to be considered a super duper hit.
I do agree that there is no chance the movie will be screened in India. I was just merely trying make a point that even a small south India movie makes more.
 
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an avrege normal budget bollywood movie is released with at least 150 prints they say and for tamil/telegu they release 50-75 prints and mostly they recover there costs within first 1.5 week of there relase and from then on its "kamai" but a hit movie recovers its cost well within a week some times there are movies which recover there cost before release thru advance booking and musik rites and over seas rites aloneand there are avrage 50-75 hitsa year(Hindi/tamil/telegu combined)...tell me how many hit movies on these scale pakistan produces every year
 
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Ummmm i don't think your explanation is correct. A movie is super-hit or a flop by comparing it with other films of the same industry, no??...For example - do we compare our hits with that of Holywood hits like Matrix etc?? Pakistan film industry as well as their market is way too small as compared to Indian market and therefore WAAR is by all means a big hit in Pakistan. Obviously being a hit it wiaaaaaaaa ll surely cover the production cost and then make profits on top of it, however it would be unfair to compare the time frame with Indian industry...reason is simple....we do come up with big-budget, big-banner movies every now and then however same can't be said about Pakistan...Thus WAAR has enough time and hardly any competition to make up the money...
Movie is a business and the motive of every business man is to make profits,
Ummmm i don't think your explanation is correct. A movie is super-hit or a flop by comparing it with other films of the same industry, no??...For example - do we compare our hits with that of Holywood hits like Matrix etc?? Pakistan film industry as well as their market is way too small as compared to Indian market and therefore WAAR is by all means a big hit in Pakistan. Obviously being a hit it will surely cover the production cost and then make profits on top of it, however it would be unfair to compare the time frame with Indian industry...reason is simple....we do come up with big-budget, big-banner movies every now and then however same can't be said about Pakistan...Thus WAAR has enough time and hardly any competition to make up the money...
A movies success is calculated by the money it collects in the box office or should be appreciated by critics .
 
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an avrege normal budget bollywood movie is released with at least 150 prints they say and for tamil/telegu they release 50-75 prints and mostly they recover there costs within first 1.5 week of there relase and from then on its "kamai" but a hit movie recovers its cost well within a week some times there are movies which recover there cost before release thru advance booking and musik rites and over seas rites aloneand there are avrage 50-75 hitsa year(Hindi/tamil/telegu combined)...tell me how many hit movies on these scale pakistan produces every year

as someone just mentioned we should not measure success with the same yardstick that we use here. We have more cinema and multiplexes in my city alone than entire Pakistan. Let them enjoy their success and lets hope they make some good movies which we can all watch and we can all share their enjoyment.
 
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A movies success is calculated by the money it collects in the box office or should be appreciated by critics .

and who challenged that?? But who decides the number after which one will call Movie a success?? 100 crore, 200 crore or 500 crore?? In other words what should be the percentage profit - 100%, 500%. 1000%....think about that and then look at what i wrote...therafter please tell me what part you don't agree.
 
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Indian movies spends much more than just 2 million. In India, blockbuster means those movies who recovers the production cost along with huge profit within 2 weeks of release.

Your waar only have collections of just 50% of production cost even after 2 weeks.
And u have comprehension problems?
This film is released in just 42 screens and will be released in 25 countries worldwide. And yr films r released in more then just 42 screens lets not forget that plus u have population of 1.2 billion have have close to 200 million.

In this scenario the people with a little brain actually calculate average business/ratio of revenue. If this film can recover 50% of its budget in just 42 screens then this means its if we had more screens or a population like u it would have got more then 150% of its total total revenue till now.

But such estimates r done from people u know a little maths.:omghaha:
 
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Problem with Pakistan film industry is that it comes with some gems on and off. Even when a big budget movie like Waar comes along it cannot be shown through out the country because of lack of cinema screens. Most of the cinema was demolished during zia period when there was an embargo on Indian content. Not enough Pakistani content means you cannot sustain cinema for 365 days. If you take on an average 2 weeks of showing for a new movie then it means you should be making about 25 movies annually. They make about 10 to 15 movies a year. Right now they are filling the gaps with Indian and foreign content and are allowing about 15 Indian movies a year. I just hope the producer of Waar makes money and spawns more copy cats. They have to find their niche or formula as we call it in order to revive their industry and bring in the families to cinema. They found their niche in the Gujjar type of movies but it is not for everyone.:D
In Zia era even our films used to beat yr films in yr country, We had Thriving industry up to 90s. Since then it started declining so when there were very less films or prints variable then the private cinema center bosses decide to demolish then and make Plazas and Malls in their places.........Thats all
 
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And u have comprehension problems?
This film is released in just 42 screens and will be released in 25 countries worldwide. And yr films r released in more then just 42 screens lets not forget that plus u have population of 1.2 billion have have close to 200 million.

In this scenario the people with a little brain actually calculate average business/ratio of revenue. If this film can recover 50% of its budget in just 42 screens then this means its if we had more screens or a population like u it would have got more then 150% of its total total revenue till now.

But such estimates r done from people u know a little maths.:omghaha:

Releasing in 25 countries, how many countries can understand Urdu. It was released in 42 screens because you don't have enough cinema halls in Pakistan.

Here is something for you from a so called jealous Indian. :omghaha::omghaha:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_Bollywood_films
 
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Releasing in 25 countries, how many countries can understand Urdu. It was released in 42 screens because you don't have enough cinema halls in Pakistan.

Here is something for you from a so called jealous Indian. :omghaha::omghaha:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_Bollywood_films
LOL the video in article speaks for itself and u can keep yr wikipedia claims to yrself we arnt interested on that.

abd i didnt knew i was talking to a person about our film who even dont know what language this film was released in!:omghaha::yahoo::yahoo:
 
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In Zia era even our films used to beat yr films in yr country, We had Thriving industry up to 90s. Since then it started declining so when there were very less films or prints variable then the private cinema center bosses decide to demolish then and make Plazas and Malls in their places.........Thats all

LOL , it was the opposite genius , pakistani cinema saw a downfall during zia time , you are highly ignorant ! following is from wikipedia article on "pakistani cinema"

President Zia-ul-Haq's Islamisation, Gandasa culture and the downfall (1979–1987)
Following Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq's military coup, he began to Islamicise the country and one of the first victims of this socio-political change included the film industry.[16] Imposition of new registration laws for film producers requiring filmmakers to be degree holders, where not many were, led to a steep decline in the workings of the industry. The government forcibly closed most of the cinemas in Lahore.[17] New tax rates were introduced, further decreasing cinema attendances.

Films dropped from a total output of 98 films in 1979, of which 42 were in Urdu, to only 58 films (26 in Urdu) in 1980.[citation needed] The filmmakers that remained employed flaccid storylines to present Punjabi cult classics like Maula Jatt in 1979, telling the story of a gandasa-carrying protagonist waging a blood-feud with a local gangster. Growing censorship policies against displays of affection, rather than violence, came as a blow to the industry[18] and as a result violence-ridden Punjabi films prevailed and overshadowed the Urdu cinema.[18] The middle class neglected the 'increasingly dilapidated and rowdy cinemas'.[18] This film sub-culture came to be known as the ‘gandasa culture’ in the local industry.

Where veterans of this culture Sultan Rahi and Anjuman, became iconic figure in the Punjabi films, Pashto cinema took on a contrasting façade. Backed by powerful politicians, Pashto filmmakers were able to get around the censor policies and filled their films with soft-core pornography to increase viewership.[18] This threw away the romantic and loveable image of Pakistani cinema and less people were attracted to the prospect of going to a cinema. Being a female actor associated with film productions became an understandable taboo.[citation needed] Nevertheless influx of refugees from across the Afghani border, who were denied the entertainment in their country, kept the industry strongly active.[19]

When it seemed the industry could not be further deteriorated, following years saw yet another blow to the fatal collapse. Waheed Murad, oft termed the chocolate hero[20] died in 1983 due to alcohol abuse and stomach cancer, some however say he committed suicide.[21] Media attributes the film star's death to his disheartened view in the wake of Pakistani cinema's collapse.[20] Director of his unfinished film Hero, employed cheat shots[18] to complete the last of this legend's memorable films to a packed audience. This enthusiasm soon disappeared and not even Pakistan's first science fiction film Shaani in 1989,[22] directed by Saeed Rizvi employing elaborate special effects could save the industry from failing. The sci-fi film received an award at the Moscow Film Festival [23] and even in Egypt and Korea,[23] but sadly was shelved in its country of origin.[23]
 
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In Zia era even our films used to beat yr films in yr country, We had Thriving industry up to 90s. Since then it started declining so when there were very less films or prints variable then the private cinema center bosses decide to demolish then and make Plazas and Malls in their places.........Thats all
You may have had thriving industry once but with less competition from across the border and less movies to show you guys stifled your movie industry and cinema in general. From 400 to 500 movie theaters in 90's you guys have been reduced to some 150 now. For a population of 180 million people you should have about three to four thousand cinema and multiplexes. Protectionist policies does not work in our globalized world anymore and It is better to accept change and move forward.
 
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LOL , it was the opposite genius , pakistani cinema saw a downfall during zia time , you are highly ignorant ! following is from wikipedia article on "pakistani cinema"

President Zia-ul-Haq's Islamisation, Gandasa culture and the downfall (1979–1987)
Following Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq's military coup, he began to Islamicise the country and one of the first victims of this socio-political change included the film industry.[16] Imposition of new registration laws for film producers requiring filmmakers to be degree holders, where not many were, led to a steep decline in the workings of the industry. The government forcibly closed most of the cinemas in Lahore.[17] New tax rates were introduced, further decreasing cinema attendances.

Films dropped from a total output of 98 films in 1979, of which 42 were in Urdu, to only 58 films (26 in Urdu) in 1980.[citation needed] The filmmakers that remained employed flaccid storylines to present Punjabi cult classics like Maula Jatt in 1979, telling the story of a gandasa-carrying protagonist waging a blood-feud with a local gangster. Growing censorship policies against displays of affection, rather than violence, came as a blow to the industry[18] and as a result violence-ridden Punjabi films prevailed and overshadowed the Urdu cinema.[18] The middle class neglected the 'increasingly dilapidated and rowdy cinemas'.[18] This film sub-culture came to be known as the ‘gandasa culture’ in the local industry.

Where veterans of this culture Sultan Rahi and Anjuman, became iconic figure in the Punjabi films, Pashto cinema took on a contrasting façade. Backed by powerful politicians, Pashto filmmakers were able to get around the censor policies and filled their films with soft-core pornography to increase viewership.[18] This threw away the romantic and loveable image of Pakistani cinema and less people were attracted to the prospect of going to a cinema. Being a female actor associated with film productions became an understandable taboo.[citation needed] Nevertheless influx of refugees from across the Afghani border, who were denied the entertainment in their country, kept the industry strongly active.[19]

When it seemed the industry could not be further deteriorated, following years saw yet another blow to the fatal collapse. Waheed Murad, oft termed the chocolate hero[20] died in 1983 due to alcohol abuse and stomach cancer, some however say he committed suicide.[21] Media attributes the film star's death to his disheartened view in the wake of Pakistani cinema's collapse.[20] Director of his unfinished film Hero, employed cheat shots[18] to complete the last of this legend's memorable films to a packed audience. This enthusiasm soon disappeared and not even Pakistan's first science fiction film Shaani in 1989,[22] directed by Saeed Rizvi employing elaborate special effects could save the industry from failing. The sci-fi film received an award at the Moscow Film Festival [23] and even in Egypt and Korea,[23] but sadly was shelved in its country of origin.[23]
LOL Bullshit kiddo.

How old r u? That u post wikipedia as a source knowing that it is nowhere close to being authentic and credible as people can edit any info their by just tagging a news source from any website.
And for yr info Waheed Murad Died in 85 not 83. And do u know how much he was famous in yr country? None of yr films could stand with his ones. And he started his carrier in late 60s and he remained a start in 70s along with Mohammad Ali, Nanna, Sultan Rahi, Nadeem etc etc
 
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LOL the video in article speaks for itself and u can keep yr wikipedia claims to yrself we arnt interested on that.

abd i didnt knew i was talking to a person about our film who even dont know what language this film was released in!:omghaha::yahoo::yahoo:

I asked you simple question how many people watch it in 25 countries when people don't understand Urdu in those countries. :woot:

from IMDB website, see how much we Indians are jealous of your movies. :omghaha::omghaha:

TOP HIGHEST GROSSING INDIAN MOVIES (Hindi, Tamil, Telugu)
http://www.imdb.com/list/CmtkLXOJKo0/
 
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