Go to Indian forums. Check threads about terror attacks inside Pakistan. Check the celebrations and check how mods and admins allow it.
@Joe Shearer
It is the truth. You have too much filth in your country. Not everyone is like that but still a big number is.
There are two Indian fora I know about which are filthy. Truly filthy. Stomach-turning filthy. Nobody decent will go there; I don't know of anybody who has been an Indian member of PDF who has gone there.
There is another Indian forum I know about and joined at the same time that I joined PDF (2009), where last week I had a post count of 3 - or was it 4? That has a lot of members who were Indian members at PDF; many continue at PDF but with a hugely reduced profile. As you might notice, they've left me pretty much isolated.
Many - most of them - are decent people who fled PDF because they couldn't take the hostility and anger; emotions that have suddenly sharpened and worsened over the last two months. Under normal circumstances, they would be happy to stay here and have decent discussions; some of them have mischievous streaks and have been trolling here, some of them have got -ve ratings from me, but overall, they aren't bad people.
I'm a lone guy, and both Pakistanis and Indians pretty much dislike me, because I don't sing the same song; Indians are pissed off because they feel I am not as blunt and direct with Pakistanis as a patriotic Indian should be. Pakistanis are pissed off because they hear me say that Indians are human beings, and they don't want to be reminded of that, because that makes them bullies and bigots.
If I plead with the Indians to stay back, nobody cares, they will keep moving out. I made the mistake of telling some of them that they belong here, that they've invested here, that this forum has invested in them, and got told some pretty nasty things for my pains.
It's not up to me. It's up to you, chief. You have to take your call on it. I can't help you. I can hold up a mirror but I can't help what it shows. People start rape threads, 19 year olds quote stuff showing the Indian Army in a bad light, members have nasty signatures, or horrible names, like Endyashainin, Indian members of good standing (not I) report posts and are told not to misuse the report button, Arabs come on board this forum and use coarse and filthy and religiously oriented bad language - it's happened to me, it continues to happen to me - and nobody bothers.
You want Indians to get the hell out, a one-liner will do. Something on the lines of "Dear Indian member, we don't need you here any longer, so **** off, right now." That will do. No need to protract things. No need to keep us hanging around so that everyone can take out a bad day with the missus, with the boss, with the colleagues, with traffic, with the share market, with the system, with the broadband connection, with the weather, with the local lunatic in a bomb-vest, with the traffic cops, with the cops in general - you get the point - on the nearest handy Indian.
I'm here because after the Bombay attacks, I wanted to find out what kind of country would send people over to kill over a hundred unarmed men, women and children, killing some of them in cold blood, torturing a pregnant woman (she doesn't really count, she was Jewish) and butchering commuters at a train station with automatic weapons. I found out to my shock that Pakistanis were nice people; I made friends, some of whom have offered to lend me money when I was in serious trouble (which is most of the time; guess how I get along in real life with people who need to be buttered up to maintain a relationship at work or outside?). I started hoping for peace, and hoping that by trying to communicate with Pakistanis, I could contribute in some tiny way. It's all falling around my ears now.
And you know what? It was worth it. Chances of war breaking out are getting brighter by the day. We have our bigoted right wingers in charge, with a cowboy doing what we had never, ever done before, behaving more and more like the sick idiots we looked at and felt superior about, getting to be like them every hour; you have what I don't need to tell you about, every Pakistani knows in his or her heart what's going on, leave aside the weak excuses. It was still worth it. Every effort for peace and for building bridges will have been worth it. Even when we fail. I don't regret a minute of it.
Bottom line?
We have too much filth in our country. Far too large a number. And I get some help from some of you to help with that situation. Others are happy to point it out and feel good.
Thanks a lot.
