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Don't read too much into these folks. India wasn't even present at Finger 8, it's the claimed line, Indian post is at Finger 3 and Chinese at finger 8. Issues started when Chinese occupied until finger 4, set up camps Helipads, jetty and other structures at this point until finger 8. Which was the main reason for the standoff, which India then complemented by putting troops in South Bank of Pangong Tso and covering heights at Kailash range and blacktop. This can be claimed as a victory or not, the point is India is not retreating from its position rather China who set up a real military base until finger 4 is retreating back to finger 8. We don't have permanent structures after finger 3.Can some Indian please explain how PLA pushing Indians 8km back to finger 3 is victory?
Any reliable source that they are moving from F4 to F8?China who set up a real military base until finger 4 is retreating back to finger 8. We don't have permanent structures after finger 3.
Sirji, that is the whole disengagement is all about. Soldiers moving out of these areas, from Finger 4 to finger 8 can be seen from the images posted in this thread.Any reliable source that they are moving from F4 to F8?
i have. all indications are India lost. since you live in India, you can tell the retired Indians generals they are wrong to their face and tell them to read. they have so much to learn from you.
Kargil 1999.....Indians, we won because Nawas Shareef said Pakistan lost so many soldiers.....forget what Indian Ministers and media are saying about Six peaks still under Pakistani control. And a single Indian soldier with 5 Rupee coins in his pocket and bleeding from every hole managed to kill dozens of Pakistani soldiers.
2002 Stand Off.......India unilaterally withdrawing after sitting on the border for 12 months. Losing some 1000 soldiers......Indians, we won as it stopped Pakistan from sending militants across the LOC. NOT
Pre- February 2019..... SU-30 over kill of PAF, and MiG-29 enough to take care of entire PAF fleet.
Post- February 2019..... Indians.....We killed over 300 Militants in Balakot.....with bombs that don't destroy infrastructure or cause any smoke or fires.... No Mig-29 in sight however usual Indians.....we only lost a MiG-21 but he shot down an F-16 before that....we even forced PAF to drop bombs NEXT to their targets.....forget how we shot down our own Chopper or what it was doing in the middle of a battle or why Modi was crying for Rafales or where did we pull out the AMRAAM from.
Clash on LAC.....Chinese killed 20 Indian soldiers and captured Ten, the fate of which was unknown until informed by Chinese......Indians.....but we killed 45 but never captured a single one.....
And so the story continues of Indian victories left right and centre.
DOKLUM 2.0 shows how weak the Chinese army was and is.
You try very hard my friend but let me ask you, Pakistani soldiers and other freedom fighters intruded into the Indian side....where all the fighting took place.....what stopped you attacking positions on the Pakistan side.....and you should be thank full to both America and Israel for saving your neck.BS. In Kargil we showed readiness to pay the price. No one in Pak had the brass nuts needed to stop us.
Not looking for validation from outside is something you need to learn from the Chinese, your iron brother let alone an Indian.
Prioritising talks is what sane people do and it was done. However the talks were backed by actions. The videos of Indian and Chinese tanks disengaging from 100 mts apart must give you an idea.
and in modern warfare if an adversary is coming for talks then it means that it has been coerced to start that action and sees a legitimate result but if the defender is weak then talks will never happen as the aggressor has an opportunity to mow down the defender hope you get it.
China taking 1000 sqkm is a complete lie as PLA has now vacated everything they encroached.
The issue of Depsang predates the current situation and can not be alluded to this stand off and rest assured of a talk about that too once they pull back and we pull back from kailash range.
We are not an autocracy to spin things as we wish, be that as a naive(that u might think) as it may, but just that we were able to stand eye to eye with the Chinese and bring about a resolution speaks volumes of our methods.
Now the Chinese honestly don’t have skill for mountain and high altitude warfare. Heck they even can’t match you guys. I’m happy they agreed.