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[ashok321]

Pawan Kalyan rules out joining BJP:

 

[Soumitra]

Haryana assembly invited a digambar jain monk. Vishal dadlani mocked it on twitter that why a nude person invited to address the assembly. Severe backlash from jains and Non Jains. Cases filed against him. Arvind Kejriwal came out in support of the monk.

https://twitter.com/x/status/769575736810299392

now Vishal Dadlani has spent the last 2 hours apologizing for his remarks. He has said that he is quitting active politics

https://twitter.com/x/status/769582082574155776

 

[Shankranthi]

Haryana assembly invited a digambar jain monk. Vishal dadlani mocked it on twitter that why a nude person invited to address the assembly. Severe backlash from jains and Non Jains. Cases filed against him. Arvind Kejriwal came out in support of the monk.

https://twitter.com/x/status/769575736810299392

now Vishal Dadlani has spent the last 2 hours apologizing for his remarks. He has said that he is quitting active politics

https://twitter.com/x/status/769582082574155776

Vishal dadlani is just another "secular" hindu / Indian with british taught "christian values" that associate Nudity with "sin".

Remember Adam and his Fig leaf. The "Original" sin.

This is a clear example of "secularism" under threat and "intolerance" of hindus that forced this poor man to quit politics.

 

[Prometheus]

Phoolka is also getting good response in Dakha.
IMO egoistic guys like Durgesh Pathak & Sanjay Singh have no idea about Punjab. They are totally ignorant about way of life of Sikhs. They are equating Punjab with Delhi.

At the same time BM was on ABP with Debang.

Sadly they are spoiling 3 years of hard work of truthful volunteers. Thousands of volunteers are feeling emotionally low. Many of them sacrificed their jobs, family life, money & everything for party like Jassi Jasraj mentioned in his latest video. My sympathies are with them.

Guys like me & prometheus are not blind followers of AAP. We are just supporting correct options to save Punjab. We will simply support honest AAP & other party candidates & oppose wrong ones.
Political scenarios are changing every week in Punjab but still 3/4 months are there for elections. Plus AAP is not completely finished, despite of these setbacks AAP & Bhagwant Mann are still managing to attract crowd at their rallies. Punjab still has plenty of hardcore Kejri bhakts. I think we should wait for completion of announcement of candidates by all parties to get a clear picture.

Kewal Singh Dhillon (Congress) owner of dhillon group & Rajinder Gupta (SAD) owner of Trident Group. RG is not fully interested but Sukhbir Badal is forcing him. First Sukhbir Badal was analysing this seat for himself but changed his mind after watching dull response of people during his sangat darshans. He is thinking about maur constituency now because it is a rural area.

Not gonna happen because current government's term is ending in Feb. EC has no power to reduce the term.

I hope you are not talking about MLA Dhillon because this time people & congressi workers are quite angry with him for not standing with them during their bad times. He hardly shows his face after winning. But he has chances of winning because of weak opposition & SAD anti incumbency.

Volunteers chased away Anu randhawa from her election office..........and a surprise revolt against Shergill erupted in Mohali........hhhmmmm......lagda bure din suru ho gaye AAP Punjab de

 

[Juggernautjatt]

Volunteers chased away Anu randhawa from her election office..........and a surprise revolt against Shergill erupted in Mohali........hhhmmmm......lagda bure din suru ho gaye AAP Punjab de

From where did u got this news?

 

[JanjaWeed]

Haryana assembly invited a digambar jain monk. Vishal dadlani mocked it on twitter that why a nude person invited to address the assembly. Severe backlash from jains and Non Jains. Cases filed against him. Arvind Kejriwal came out in support of the monk.

https://twitter.com/x/status/769575736810299392

now Vishal Dadlani has spent the last 2 hours apologizing for his remarks. He has said that he is quitting active politics

https://twitter.com/x/status/769582082574155776

Thank fcuk for that! At-last his arrogance has reached a point of saturation & karma caught up with him. Hope better sense prevails now on...

 

[Prometheus]

From where did u got this news?

saw on TV ....punjabi news channel Zee Punjab Haryana Himachal one

From where did u got this news?

she just opened her office........and her supporters left behind their belongings when AAP volunteers chased her

 

[Grevion]

But it would be wrong to impose on a religious structure something that is anathema to it. Best to create offshoot religions for people to join and then reform the ownership of religious structures along the lines of their intrinsic cultural heritage for all Indians and use an appropriate time-share format or any other number of novel ideas to have access for everyone with respect and tolerance as required.

One size fits all is not going to work in religion.

You mean, to create another religion within a religion. That may be possible in Hinduism(but not without bloodshed) and is not at all possible in Islam. I once talked with my Muslim friend about Islam and he told me that to believe in any other god then Allah is haram for them.
Reform of religious structure along the line of cultural heritage is what we see in the Indian Caste system or in the regional cultural divide in India.(That's why the issues like beef or gaumata does not affects the South Indian Hindus as it does to the North Indian Hindus).

The point is not very clear to me.

There is no adjudication taking place on religious theologies. If the Court is asked in its capacity of interpreter of the Constitution to rule on an apparent conflict between religious theology and the Constitution, it may do so. If in doing so, it rules that the Constitution must prevail (any other ruling is not possible as it will amount to judicial rejection of the Constitution) over religious theology, it is a ruling for the Constitution, not a ruling against theology.

If a citizen claims that his theology demands the immolation of a widow on her husband's pyre, he is in breach of the Constitution and its legal system, and is a criminal, and taking shelter behind the theology will not help him. If a citizen claims that a certain sect holds beliefs about the nature and incidence of prophethood which are repugnant to that citizen or to the theology that the citizen adheres to, and wishes to take action on his own against that sect, he is in breach of the Constitution and its legal system, and is a criminal, and taking shelter behind the theology will not help him.

I suspect that a close judicial examination of Section 295 of the Indian Penal Code is overdue; it may be unconstitutional.

But Joe, what if a large section of people refuses to abide by such rulings, what if they believe that the judiciary doesn't have authority on these matters?
In the last case I quoted the Chief Justice himself said that a court order alone can't establish Ram Rajya in the country, it can't stop corruption.
Shouldn't these matters be left with the administration and the people to decide and introduce the norms acceptable to all the parties.

 

[Juggernautjatt]

saw on TV ....punjabi news channel Zee Punjab Haryana Himachal one

she just opened her office........and her supporters left behind their belongings when AAP volunteers chased her

New rumours are coming on FB about Bhagwant Mann. Some people are saying that the reason behind BM's divorce is his secret Nanital connection.
@ranjeet yar sanu tan jwani vich ni koi mildi. Politicians budhe ho k v aapne ton adhi umar dian rakhi firde ne. That is not fair

 

[ranjeet]

At the same time BM was on ABP with Debang.

Bund te latt LMLA saab de vi vajni aa 22, cassetta idhi vi tyar ne

New rumours are coming on FB about Bhagwant Mann. Some people are saying that the reason behind BM's divorce is his secret Nanital connection.
@ranjeet yar sanu tan jwani vich ni koi mildi. Politicians budhe ho k v aapne ton adhi umar dian rakhi firde ne. That is not fair

Oye na dukhdi rag nu ched yar.

 

[911]

https://twitter.com/x/status/769529321471913984

 

[Prometheus]

New rumours are coming on FB about Bhagwant Mann. Some people are saying that the reason behind BM's divorce is his secret Nanital connection.
@ranjeet yar sanu tan jwani vich ni koi mildi. Politicians budhe ho k v aapne ton adhi umar dian rakhi firde ne. That is not fair

where do read these kind of stuff??

 

[Shankranthi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/769529321471913984

Disgusting.

The only thing 'relevant' about that man is that his son was a terrorist. What next ? posing with dawoods sons and daughters ?

 

[Nilgiri]

You mean, to create another religion within a religion. That may be possible in Hinduism(but not without bloodshed) and is not at all possible in Islam. I once talked with my Muslim friend about Islam and he told me that to believe in any other god then Allah is haram for them.

Point is an Abrahamic religion can only be reformed internally so much till it is splintered itself (look up how it happened to Christianity). The only trend I see in Islam close to this is the Ahmedi sect...and maybe Ibadi sect in Oman....maybe the bohra community to some extent too.

They do not have to be acceptable to other Muslims as Muslims....but they can appeal for Muslim status under constitution of India and Supreme court (which was granted to Ahmadis). Then the cultural infrastructure can be sorted out and segregated as needed (beyond that which does not contravene Indian constitution directly as mentioned by others). Dispute mechanisms and resolving can have a special court set up....an SIT can investigate best way to integrate everyone that identifies as muslim under constitution of India with minimum negativity generated. Where it is too much for the majority host group (i.e too much ill-will generated etc...) then the facts have to be laid bare to the minority and they must be allowed to create their own structures and so on in the same vicinity or similar things like that. Status quo of denying people to worship stemming from tyranny of majority cannot be allowed to continue unabated. It must be chiselled away esp as Indian society develops and hopefully matures. Thats where Indian constitution and supreme court come into the picture.

Reform of religious structure along the line of cultural heritage is what we see in the Indian Caste system or in the regional cultural divide in India.(That's why the issues like beef or gaumata does not affects the South Indian Hindus as it does to the North Indian Hindus).

Well when someone calls you a munafiq or whatever and denies you access to a religious and cultural structure that you as an Indian citizen has a historical stake in....I'm sorry but there is little other way. Some agreement and compromise has to be made. You cant force people to worship side by side when one group does not extend even a basic dignity and recognition to the other group. That is recipe for disaster.

I support this for all of the Hindu temples too. They should not be exclusive domains of priestly class. Check the relevant population sizes of everyone that wants to have a religious function of some sort, make sure everyone has a certain base level of respect and sanctity that will not directly offend the procedures etc... of the others and move from there.

Constitution of India and freedom of worship must extend to every nook and cranny of India.....when we put limits on the constitution of India....that is a very slippery slope.

Over time the religion itself will change to be more accommodating. Thats how say unitarian churches worked and expanded in the west....and some protestant ones before them were quite similar too.

 

[ranjeet]

Kewal Singh Dhillon (Congress) owner of dhillon group & Rajinder Gupta (SAD) owner of Trident Group. RG is not fully interested but Sukhbir Badal is forcing him. First Sukhbir Badal was analysing this seat for himself but changed his mind after watching dull response of people during his sangat darshans. He is thinking about maur constituency now because it is a rural area.

Not gonna happen because current government's term is ending in Feb. EC has no power to reduce the term.

I hope you are not talking about MLA Dhillon because this time people & congressi workers are quite angry with him for not standing with them during their bad times. He hardly shows his face after winning. But he has chances of winning because of weak opposition & SAD anti incumbency.

Trident Group? Hotel Trident Gurgaon isse group da aye?