Indian opinion on CPEC

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We are helping Chinese so why should we even pay them a dime? Given the size of our population we could've eventually become a major economy in the next 3-4 decades.
This thread is dedicated to Indian concerns over CPEC, their strategy in countering it ,Their opinions whether or not legitimate or illegitimate.
PS:Keep the debate as constructive as possible no sniffing backsides and senseless talk.

My Assessment

• We have already seen the trade deficit becoming a serious problem for Pakistan and various economist on TV worrying about next bailout pointing towards International banks (WB IMF,ASDB etc), Now Pakistan has to pay Chinese banks as well ,We also have witnessed a slight but clear increase in Debt after CPEC / Right after CPEC began port operations and Initial trade started flowing in.
  
• CPEC is militarily unacceptable to India hence the economic project has potential to escalate military conflict in the region involving foreign players like the United states who already sided the Indian camp ,India also intensifying efforts to derail CPEC by using alternate trade stations like Ports in chabahar and diversifying economic relations with Iran and Afghanistan,This leaves little room for future reconciliation over key-issues like Kashmir and South asian economic integration which can be more beneficial to common folk and help balance current and future trade crisis ,The recent Indo-china standoff in Doklam plateau at the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet tri-junction is another serious concern for Pakistan ,It risks Pakistan's Interests over Kashmir and geopolitical goals.
• To counter Afghanistan's official stance over CPEC and potential partner ,India has invested in a trade corridor connecting Chabahar India-Afghanistan Iran to (Africa and Middle east plus rest of the world). A planned road connecting the port to Afghanistan is being constructed, This can liberalize Afghan demand and provide an alternate over current trade with Afghanistan which is our 3rd biggest export partner ,currently Pakistan's services sector (Agriculture food processing etc) reap benefits over this trade with afghanistan.

The Indian Opinion

Indian assessment on CPEC revolves around the fact that "China" needs "Pakistan" therefore why should Pakistan pay China at all?


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[ito]

^^^you have already answered the question you asked. Bring in China into Azad Kashmir and GB will never be acceptable to India. India has already made its position clear. That is why India boycotted BRI.

 

[truthseer]

We own Azad Kashmir, unlike your disputed area. Anyway, Chabahar is a fantasy of a few morons who think they are a Sewper Power, and they will be fuming when it fails. CPEC is big because of China, because people want to trade with China.

Only sanitation companies want to trade with India, where the Ganges is the dirties river in the world. Alas, it was much better under Muslim rule, but since Hindus have tried to rule, it's gotten worse

 

[.]

^^^you have already answered the question you asked. Bring in China into Azad Kashmir and GB will never be acceptable to India. India has already made its position clear. That is why India boycotted BRI.

It surely is a gamble for Pakistan ,I can tell you that for sure .

 

[ito]

We own Azad Kashmir, unlike your disputed area. Anyway, Chabahar is a fantasy of a few morons who think they are a Sewper Power, and they will be fuming when it fails. CPEC is big because of China, because people want to trade with China.

Only sanitation companies want to trade with India, where the Ganges is the dirties river in the world. Alas, it was much better under Muslim rule, but since Hindus have tried to rule, it's gotten worse

You don't own Azad Kashmir and GB. Your country itself calls Kashmir a dispute, so where is the question of it belonging to Pakistan. The maharajah signed the accession to India and not to Pakistan. All the 500 odd princely states acceded either to India or Pakistan based only on instrument of accessions signed by maharajah and Navabs of the princely states.

 

[.]

We own Azad Kashmir,

You forget the rest of Kashmir for which we waged all the wars l, Not to mention all the political instability and proxy over it.

 

[ito]

It surely is a gamble for Pakistan ,I can tell you that for sure .

Whatever chances of Kashmir being solved between India and Pakistan...it dead after CPEC. The Kashmir has become more complex now after CPEC. However I personally think that CPEC will bring good fortune to your country.

 

[Syed1.]

I'm not sure why Indian opinion on CPEC is even entertained. It is Pakistan's internal matter. We can do whatever we feel like within the confines of our borders. Do you see Pakistanis debating any of India's internal projects with such intensity?

If India was a party to the CPEC then it would be different situation, but since they are not we should pay zero heed to their opinion.

 

[hussain0216]

You don't own Azad Kashmir and GB. Your country itself calls Kashmir a dispute, so where is the question of it belonging to Pakistan. The maharajah signed the accession to India and not to Pakistan. All the 500 odd princely states acceded either to India or Pakistan based only on instrument of accessions signed by maharajah and Navabs of the princely states.

Azad Kashmir and GB are muslim states part of a muslim country as per partition with no desire to be part of a increasingly hindutva state.

To deny the people their democratic right to choosh their future is a crime


RE: CPEC, why? ??? Would we care what india thinks

 

[.]

I'm not sure why Indian opinion on CPEC is even entertained. It is Pakistan's internal matter. We can do whatever we feel like within the confines of our borders. Do you see Pakistanis debating any of India's internal projects with such intensity?

If India was a party to the CPEC then it would be different situation, but since they are not we should pay zero heed to their opinion.

Bhai Jaan then IOK is Pakistan's internal matter which is a territorial dispute between both countries.

 

[American Pakistani]

The maharajah signed the accession to India and not to Pakistan. All the 500 odd princely states acceded either to India or Pakistan based only on instrument of accessions signed by maharajah and Navabs of the princely states.

What happened to Junagadh, Manvadar, Hyderabad Deccan?

 

[ito]

Azad Kashmir and GB are muslim states part of a muslim country as per partition with no desire to be part of a increasingly hindutva state.

To deny the people their democratic right to choosh their future is a crime


RE: CPEC, why? ??? Would we care what india thinks

That was not the plan. Muslims parts of the British India became Pakistan. British left the decision to join India, Pakistan or remain independent to the princely states. Kashmir was a princely state.

 

[American Pakistani]

Poor false flag troll.

 

[ito]

What happened to Junagadh, Manvadar, Hyderabad Deccan?

Yes, India took them by force. Pakistan too took Baluchistan by force. Both were not according to what British partition plan prescribed.

 

[El Sidd]

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