Indian opens fire 60 year old civilian martyred

[WAJsal]

Its not difficult to figure out.

What is difficult is the stupidity of the premise. Which is, India is goading Pakistan into a confrontation.

Why?

Before saying anything i would like to say this is my POV.I think India knowing the fact that half of PA(Pakistan Army) is busy and is working to divert there attention from Zarb e Azb and is working to initiate Pakistan in a low intensity war.Long story short India is taking advantage the situation in Pakistan.

 

[Sugarcane]

Any Pakistani died become Martyr.. Pakistani misuse this word frequently..

A martyr (Greek: μάρτυς, mártys, "witness"; stem μάρτυρ-, mártyr-) is somebody who suffers persecution and/or death for advocating, renouncing, refusing to renounce, and/or refusing to advocate a belief or cause of either a religious or secular nature. Most martyrs are considered holy or are respected by their followers, becoming a symbol of exceptional leadership and heroism.

mar·tyr
(mär′tər)
n.
1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
3.
a. One who endures great suffering: a martyr to arthritis.
b. One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy.


This poor Old Guy was killed, Murdered, died accidentally, accidentally caught in fire, He is anything but martyr....

Mar-tyr Pakistani use is as english translation of word "Shaheed" and we don't need Hindu or Wikipedia to tell what's the concept of "Shaheed" but yeah Indian who adopted this word should read little bit about the concept.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Any Pakistani died become Martyr.. Pakistani misuse this word frequently..

A martyr (Greek: μάρτυς, mártys, "witness"; stem μάρτυρ-, mártyr-) is somebody who suffers persecution and/or death for advocating, renouncing, refusing to renounce, and/or refusing to advocate a belief or cause of either a religious or secular nature. Most martyrs are considered holy or are respected by their followers, becoming a symbol of exceptional leadership and heroism.

mar·tyr
(mär′tər)
n.
1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
3.
a. One who endures great suffering: a martyr to arthritis.
b. One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy.


This poor Old Guy was killed, Murdered, died accidentally, accidentally caught in fire, He is anything but martyr....

Any non muslim india dieds ... he is labelled as a shaheed.. even though it hs pure Islamic ref.

 

[Ind4Ever]

RIP something needs to be done about this border issues going on.India is simply tempting Pakistan into making a wrong move,we ain't that stupid.

Actually it was a retaliation from BSF ...

I agree PA must must declare war ASAP

 

[doppelganger]

@WAJsal

Before saying anything i would like to say this is my POV.I think India knowing the fact that half of PA(Pakistan Army) is busy and is working to divert there attention from Zarb e Azb and is working to initiate Pakistan in a low intensity war.Long story short India is taking advantage the situation in Pakistan.

You are essentially saying two very different things.

1) India is trying to divert attention of Pakistan away from your current operations on your western flank

2) India is trying to fly low under the radar and finger you while your attention and resources are committed elsewhere (on your western flank)

I assume your rationale for (1) is that India is trying to help its proxies who are feeling your heat.

Why? Do we look stupid to you? Why would we have proxies if not to take the heat away from us? Having proxies, why would we then try to attract your heat back towards us by reminding you of our presence while you engage our proxies?

Does not make any strategic sense.

The premise for (2) is equally weak. If Pakistan is busy on its western flank, it means you are not busy on your eastern flank, the one you share with us. Its suits us for you to be busy elsewhere. Why would we disturb that calm by fingering you?

The only strategic advantage that could ensue from this situation is an Indian blitzkrieg type invasion while your forces are busy elsewhere.

And for that, it would be done without warning, at a time and place of complete peace. Not by ratcheting up tensions on the very border you plan to penetrate.

 

[Black Widow]

Mar-tyr Pakistani use is as english translation of word "Shaheed" and we don't need Hindu or Wikipedia to tell what's the concept of "Shaheed" but yeah Indian who adopted this word should read little bit about the concept.

From where Hindu came into Picture?

Shahid or Shaheed (Arabic: شهيد,‎ šahīd, plural: شُهَدَاءšuhadāʾ ) originates from the Qur'anic Arabic word meaning "witness" and is also used to denote a "martyr." It is used as an honorific for Muslims who have died fulfilling a religious commandment, especially those who die wielding jihad, or historically in the military expansion of Islam.

How come this old man become Shaid? was he doing military expansion of Islam? or he was doing Jihad???

The problem with Pakistanis is, you guys are still stuck in 6th-13th century (military expansion of Islam), You see everything Jihad, Shahid and Shahuda...


This poor old man was doing his regular work and died because of crossfire, he is not Shaheed...

 

[WAJsal]

@WAJsal



You are essentially saying two very different things.

1) India is trying to divert attention of Pakistan away from your current operations on your western flank

2) India is trying to fly low under the radar and finger you while your attention and resources are committed elsewhere (on your western flank)

I assume your rationale for (1) is that India is trying to help its proxies who are feeling your heat.

Why? Do we look stupid to you? Why would we have proxies if not to take the heat away from us? Having proxies, why would we then try to attract your heat back towards us by reminding you of our presence while you engage our proxies?

Does not make any strategic sense.

The premise for (2) is equally weak. If Pakistan is busy on its western flank, it means you are not busy on your eastern flank, the one you share with us. Its suits us for you to be busy elsewhere. Why would we disturb that calm by fingering you?

The only strategic advantage that could ensue from this situation is an Indian blitzkrieg type invasion while your forces are busy elsewhere.

And for that, it would be done without warning, at a time and place of complete peace. Not by ratcheting up tensions on the very border you plan to penetrate.

I said two different things because that's what i think might just be the case . Hy,you are one of the only Indian members who is cool with me,lets keep it that way.

Why? Do we look stupid to you? Why would we have proxies if not to take the heat away from us? Having proxies, why would we then try to attract your heat back towards us by reminding you of our presence while you engage our proxies?

Its not about looking stupid,its about helping strategic allies,its quite understandable as every one does this shit nowadays.

 

[Khalid Newazi]

If they can shoot 10 year olds, they can shoot 60 year olds. These BSF are no different from terrorists, they are state funded terrorists.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

From where Hindu came into Picture?

Shahid or Shaheed (Arabic: شهيد,‎ šahīd, plural: شُهَدَاءšuhadāʾ ) originates from the Qur'anic Arabic word meaning "witness" and is also used to denote a "martyr." It is used as an honorific for Muslims who have died fulfilling a religious commandment, especially those who die wielding jihad, or historically in the military expansion of Islam.

How come this old man become Shaid? was he doing military expansion of Islam? or he was doing Jihad???

The problem with Pakistanis is, you guys are still stuck in 6th-13th century (military expansion of Islam), You see everything Jihad, Shahid and Shahuda...


This poor old man was doing his regular work and died because of crossfire, he is not Shaheed...

Do you even know the types of Jihad? only a man who dies fighting a war isnt shaheed... even a student who dies while going to a school/educational purpose is also a shaheed...

What will a hinduvta like you understand.

P.S: It wasnt a Pakistani who bought in the issue.. it was an indian who had an issue with that.

 

[doppelganger]

I said two different things because that's what i think might just be the case . Hy,you are one of the only Indian members who is cool with me,lets keep it that way.

Its not about looking stupid,its about helping strategic allies,its quite understandable as every one does this shit nowadays.

Bro I am cool with most people except those where I detect a strong undercurrent of hatred or disrespect. Even with those I tend to ignore or stay away from or sometimes report, do not get into unnecessary tu tu main main with them. I am just debating and discussing with you.

I do not see anything more in Indian shelling besides standard retaliation.

 

[Ind4Ever]

Tomorrow there is gonna be a firing across the border .... India vs Pakistan. When ever PA bores they start firing at India .... We know about you guys

 

[Sugarcane]

From where Hindu came into Picture?

Shahid or Shaheed (Arabic: شهيد,‎ šahīd, plural: شُهَدَاءšuhadāʾ ) originates from the Qur'anic Arabic word meaning "witness" and is also used to denote a "martyr." It is used as an honorific for Muslims who have died fulfilling a religious commandment, especially those who die wielding jihad, or historically in the military expansion of Islam.

How come this old man become Shaid? was he doing military expansion of Islam? or he was doing Jihad???

The problem with Pakistanis is, you guys are still stuck in 6th-13th century (military expansion of Islam), You see everything Jihad, Shahid and Shahuda...


This poor old man was doing his regular work and died because of crossfire, he is not Shaheed...

I will say again - we don't need a Hindu or Wikipedia page to explain whats the concept of Shaheed for us. You Indians who adopted this word should try to do more research before using it.

 

[Nawaba]

Coward dot heads.

 

[utraash]

RIP old man..........

 

[WAJsal]

I do not see anything more in Indian shelling besides standard retaliation.

Looks more like a conspiracy to me,anyway have a nice day.