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Indian Navy Threat to Gwadar 2017

First thing first...
you have jf-17 not an indeginous fighter.:coffee:
have french fighters (mirage2000)and weapons on board and British weapons in your arsenal .
yes its not our indigenous jet as the name says JOINT FIGHTER-17 but we make it 58% at home including RADOM, wings, tail surfaces and some avionics, unlike your Tej@ss which is 100% foreign;), we don't have (Mirage 2000) instead we have (Mirage-3 and mirage-5) but their weapons replaced by US air to air missiles (AIM-9) and indigenous air to ground weapons and prove that we are using British weapons, we were in the past but not now:enjoy:

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:lol: what nonsense you have, then you are the puppet of US and west against China:enjoy:
 
Ill push that assessment to a hundred at best. Its not just the jets, you need fliers and fresh, rested fliers which the IAF lacks in any sustained conflict... prosperity has its drawbacks and the IAFs greatest enemy isnt the PAF; its Indian airlines

I agree with your argument that we need fliers, however in a recent assessment by IAF, they found out that the obsolete inventory in IAF is a major reason why pilots are opting out for private airlines.

In my opinion if we have jets ghat are modern which are less stressful for a pilot can actually work in IAFs favour on retaining its talent. This is another reason why IAF wants to do away with her Russian fleet and induct more western advanced fighters.

Coz it wants to fly competent planes with competent hands. The govt understanding that is now out for a solution.

At best 5-7 years and things will look upwards.
 
yes its not our indigenous jet as the name says JOINT FIGHTER-17 but we make it 58% at home including RADOM, wings, tail surfaces and some avionics, unlike your Tej@ss which is 100% foreign;), we don't have (Mirage 2000) instead we have (Mirage-3 and mirage-5) but their weapons replaced by US air to air missiles (AIM-9) and indigenous air to ground weapons and prove that we are using British weapons, we were in the past but not now:enjoy:

:lol: what nonsense you have, then you are the puppet of US and west against China
please tell me that any sanction on to you wasn't their on us further tell me that u didn't had hands on those mirage which them self are used by your army (sorry for that 2000)and for other weapons that means u also use weapons of foreign origin in history :rofl:as stated by one of your colleagues that is
That too when you also have access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Pakistan_Army
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what nonsense you have, then you are the puppet of US and west against China
so IMPLIES TO you since using an internet more or less controlled by west makes u their puppet to :rofl:
:guns::cheesy:

Thank you very much for clearing me up sir:tup: can you clarify me that PEASA is less accurate than AESA thanks in advance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irbis-E
Irbis-E can detect and track up to 30 airborne targets at one time at ranges near 350~400 kilometers, and attack up to 8. In air-to-surface mode the Irbis-E provides mapping allowing to attack four surface targets with precision-guided weapons while scanning the horizon searching for airborne threats that can be engaged using active radar homing missiles.

It can detect a target with RCS 3m2 at up to 350 km, (towards each other, in the area of 100 square degrees)[3][4] It can detect a target with RCS 0.01m2 at up to 90 km.[5]

It is one of the most powerful PESA radar used in an operational aircraft. [6]

, active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar
Unconfirmed sources suggest that APG-77 has an operating range of 125–150 mi (201–241 km),[3] against a 1 m2 (11 sq ft) target. A range of 400 km or more, against a 1 m2 (11 sq ft) target, with the APG-77v1 with newer GaAs modules, is believed to be possible while using more narrow beams.[4][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/APG-81
HOPE IT HELPS!!!:tup:
:guns::cheesy:
 
so IMPLIES TO you since using an internet more or less controlled by west makes u their puppet to :rofl:
:guns::cheesy:
what a logic you have:lol::enjoy: We were in the past but not now:wave:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irbis-E
Irbis-E can detect and track up to 30 airborne targets at one time at ranges near 350~400 kilometers, and attack up to 8. In air-to-surface mode the Irbis-E provides mapping allowing to attack four surface targets with precision-guided weapons while scanning the horizon searching for airborne threats that can be engaged using active radar homing missiles.

It can detect a target with RCS 3m2 at up to 350 km, (towards each other, in the area of 100 square degrees)[3][4] It can detect a target with RCS 0.01m2 at up to 90 km.[5]

It is one of the most powerful PESA radar used in an operational aircraft. [6]

, active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar
Unconfirmed sources suggest that APG-77 has an operating range of 125–150 mi (201–241 km),[3] against a 1 m2 (11 sq ft) target. A range of 400 km or more, against a 1 m2 (11 sq ft) target, with the APG-77v1 with newer GaAs modules, is believed to be possible while using more narrow beams.[4][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/APG-81
HOPE IT HELPS!!!:tup:
:guns::cheesy:
Thank you very much:tup:
 
Sure, that one statement is enough to sink a whole CBG.

brother,

i still stick to my argument, Development of gwader Port is major Set back to Indian Naval deterrence! now Indian Oil supply line is vanurable in International waters.
 
Not the IAF only the Indian Navy Aviation which operated independently 45 Mig29K and 14 Sea Harriers.

As the INS Vikramaditya is doing operations beyond our waters that means all Mig29K problems are solved because when we had problems with the Mig29K the Vikramaditya kept close to Indian shores so in case of emergency the Mig29K could land on share based airfields.

When inducting a new platform there are always challenges which have to be overcome. Look at the F-35. It's doing better than 5 years ago.

A tool is only as good as its operator. Absolutely true.

Your assumption that IAF pilots are inferior to PAF pilots is your hangover from 1965.
When Mysteres and Vampires both bombers against F-86 and F-104 both fighters.

Who wins in air to air combat between bombers and fighters?

Forward to 1971 the IAF gets fighters the Mig 21.

Now both forces have fighters.
IAF knocks the senses out of PAF.

Complete air superiority over East Pakistan.
West Pakistan the PAF has fled into Afghanistan and Middle East.

Why? Do we now say IAF pilots are far superior to PAF pilots?

You won't have any numerical advantage as your PAF is totally deployed against IAF and when IN naval aviation strikes total disarray.

112 old Mirages all will fly out to sea ?

Even if you did that today with no war ongoing less than 100 would return.

IN aid procuring 57 more Naval multirole fighters and they are 2 contenders.

Rafale M and F-18 SH.

Both being procured by their respective home countries currently unlike some aircraft.

F-16 vs Rafale.

AMRAAM vs Meteor + Spectra.

Rafale already has AESA.

No comparison.

IN will strike where it wants when it wants.

600km + range supersonic cruise missiles against aging PN frigates.

SSN vs age old ASW.

It's game over.

Sea lanes blocked.

No oil from your west.

No water from your north east.



In the event nukes are held back indefinitely then the PN surface fleet is sunk, sub fleet is unaccounted for as the wrecks cannot be confirmed by either side during all the confusiDG on of combat.

Said costal defence batteries would have been overwhelmed by Baloch fighters. After all when will the 6 consultes come of any use.

Looking at a ground landing force at Gwadar to link up with BLA and ANA.
you should be an Admiral in IN or DG Operations in Indian Military... hahaha i think you haven't read history even the 1971 East Pakistan air battle between IAF's 10 squadrons and lone PAF F-86 squadron.
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