Indian Navy News & Discussions

[karan.1970]

Can somesome tell me if it final that we are going to Induct a part of MMRCA in the navy. I read a few times that navy has shown their interest. Thanks. Please advise.

I thought there was an offer from US on F 35 for navy

 

[Kinshuk]

I thought there was an offer from US on F 35 for navy

Yes Sir I am aware of that,

F 35 is separately offered to the Indian Navy which was before directly related to F-16 IN winning the MMRCA, but the deal was revised and it was then offered seperately. Navy has requested for 40 around(not sure) fighters.

But as I reckon F-35 is not very future and for the current requirement,navy needs 4.5 generation fighter by 2013 2014.

Thanks.

 

[karan.1970]

Yes Sir I am aware of that,

F 35 is separately offered to the Indian Navy which was before directly related to F-16 IN winning the MMRCA, but the deal was revised and it was then offered seperately. Navy has requested for 40 around(not sure) fighters.

But as I reckon F-35 is not very future and for the current requirement,navy needs 4.5 generation fighter by 2013 2014.

Thanks.

I think that the newly purchased Mig 29K's will fill in till the 35 comes in

 

[garibnawaz]

Sea Harriers are only 11.

8 Single Seaters and 3 Trainers.

They need to go as soon as we have MiG-29's in enoguh numbers.

Harriers are poorly maintained and ban after 1998 nuke blasts have made situation worst.

During the Malabar Excersice I read an article which said that the harriers were so bad that even the oil was leaking from one of them.

They need to go to museum at the earliest.

GB

 

[xuxu1457]

Us unable to export the F35 until the USA navy equip,I heard that IAN will buy six LCA and MIG －２９Ｋ for their carrier,is that true?

 

[amarnath]

Us unable to export the F35 until the USA navy equip,I heard that IAN will buy six LCA and MIG －２９Ｋ for their carrier,is that true?

Self Delete

 

[unicorn148]

thats not the navy variant its a trainer version of LCA

 

[Novice09]

Us unable to export the F35 until the USA navy equip,I heard that IAN will buy six LCA and MIG －２９Ｋ for their carrier,is that true?

Yes it is... F35 is not going to be in our kitty until 2025 because the nine major partner nations plan to acquire over 3,100 F-35s through 2035. Sea harrier will not serve the Indian Navy after 2012 (2015 for optimists). Hence, Mig - 29 were purchased from Russia.

Naval LCA is still under testing phase and Indian navy has invested in this project. That means they will buy them... number is uncertain.

 

[karan.1970]

Sea Harriers are only 11.

8 Single Seaters and 3 Trainers.

They need to go as soon as we have MiG-29's in enoguh numbers.

Harriers are poorly maintained and ban after 1998 nuke blasts have made situation worst.

During the Malabar Excersice I read an article which said that the harriers were so bad that even the oil was leaking from one of them.

They need to go to museum at the earliest.

GB

Thnk India is buying some of the ones retired from Royal navy to keep the strength to a sq level

 

[amarnath]

thats not the navy variant its a trainer version of LCA

But isnt the twin seater version for the navy? I am Wrong then I guess, sorry.

 

[xuxu1457]

Yes it is... F35 is not going to be in our kitty until 2025 because the nine major partner nations plan to acquire over 3,100 F-35s through 2035. Sea harrier will not serve the Indian Navy after 2012 (2015 for optimists). Hence, Mig - 29 were purchased from Russia.

Naval LCA is still under testing phase and Indian navy has invested in this project. That means they will buy them... number is uncertain.

I heard that the IAN accept buying 6 LCA at Jan 21

 

[gogbot]

I heard that the IAN accept buying 6 LCA at Jan 21

They were just investing more money into the project.
And showing their support for Indigenous efforts unlike others(IA).
When the LCA-N can meet the requirements of the IN. More orders will be placed.

At least one squadron for each carrier will be ordered by IN.

Due to the Tejas being Lightweight it can operate on both STOBAR and CATOBAR carriers with only small modifications for each configuration.

Its also the most cost effective fighter available for the NAVY.
with the Next fighter available costing double the Tejas.

The INS Vikramaditya operates one squadron of Mig-29K and the rest LCA.

Based on this doctrine, It seem the Navy will field one dedicated air superiority but also Strike capable fighter and one Multi role fighter like the LCA.

That's why the NAvy maybe showing so much interest in the F-35.
Its the perfect Air superiority fighter for its planned CATOBAR carriers. where the Mig-29K cant operate from.

 

[sancho]

India plans to buy 16 new MIG-29 fighter jets, half a dozen light combat aircraft, unmanned patrol planes and multi-role helicopters.

The Indian Navy is also upgrading its Sea Harrier fighter jets, IL-38 maritime anti-submarine warfare planes and acquiring five Kamov KA-31 patrol helicopters.

Are this really new news, or just a summary of what was and is going on at the moment?
16 Mig 29 ordered some times ago and first was already deliverd, same goes for Sea Harriers that were upg with new Israeli radar and weapons, IL 38 that are beeing upgraded at the moment and the Ka 31 are delivered too:

The Indian Navy ordered four Ka-31 radars in 1999, and a further five in 2001. Full-scale volume production of the helicopter started in 2002. The first batch of four entered service with the Indian Navy in April 2003. The second batch were delivered in 2005.

Kamov Ka-31 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Order of 6 N-LCA is also nothing new, but the article says nothing about the real new news of 29 additional Mig 29Ks.

 

[sancho]

They were just investing more money into the project.
And showing their support for Indigenous efforts unlike others(IA).
When the LCA-N can meet the requirements of the IN. More orders will be placed.

To be frank, they do it (IMO) more or less for PR reasons in case of N-LCA, nothing more. It simply will not be useful as a carrier fighter, because it's too limited in payload, weapon stations and that's why they only ordered 6 of them.

 

[garibnawaz]

But isnt the twin seater version for the navy? I am Wrong then I guess, sorry.

No. Only trainers will be twin sitter.

As of December 2009, Navy chief Admiral Nirmal Verma said at his maiden navy week press conference that he had been assured by the DRDO that the LCA's naval variant would be ready for carrier trials by 2013 and for deployment on the Gorshkov/Vikramaditya as well as the IAC. He said the navy was doing a concept study 'for more capable carrier-borne aircraft' for the IAC-2.

-- Aircraft carrier operation with ski-jump and arrested landing
-- Nose drooped for better cockpit vision
-- Additional aerodynamic features like LEVCON and fore plane to reduce carrier landing speed
-- Maximum take off weight from carrier—12.5 tons
-- External store carrying capacity from carrier—3.5 tons
-- Strengthened fuselage
-- Stronger undercarriage due to higher sink rate
-- Arrestor hook for deck recovery
-- Fuel dump system

GB