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@Oscar I have forgotten the particular configuration of the Olivers in service with the PN. Care to elucidate?
 
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PN only can give some fight to Kolkata class destroyer with their Agosta Subs as our ships are without Advanced Towed Array Sonar (ATAS),, a sensor crucial for detecting submarines in warm, shallow waters like those of the Arabian Sea.
But Indian Navy has a big advantage numerical superiority of vessels & options for PN are very limited.
 
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and how are you supposed to launch it from main land, well the earth is curve and radar does not read beyond a range in sea. And IN will shoot down any AWACS within 100 kms in case of war.

4000+ posts and you write this absolutely bogus shitty sentence? Ever heard of INS guidance? Or perhaps GPS? And exactly whose AWACS is going <100km to a naval vessel armed with LR SAMs?

As for OP, you really ought to know better than this. Reported for useless war-mongering and instigating nonsensical arguments.
 
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At a $1 billion each this 7000 tonne warship is the most advanced and most costly in South Asia.

The indians will have seven in total by 2020

Amazing vedio


I wany to ask how best do Pakistan answer this MASSIVE NEW THREAT

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The ship is designed to fight engage pn Land & Sea & Air .

It carrys up to 72 barak SURFACE TO AIR MISSLES. getting an air strike even close will be enormously hard

Brahmos cruise missles means it can not only sink ships but attack land targets

Building more Subs,more Anti Ship Missiles & more coastal batteries seems a good idea
 
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Useless how

It's a major threat to pak navy.

It's not a illusion.

And it's a good debate..

Are you uncomfortable talking about it
Wow
So afraid of Pak that u came up with a so called Battle monster solely for Pakistan?
 
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Billion Dollar Ships can be brought down by few hundred thousand dollars worth of Anti-Ship Cruise Missiles.

I love those odds. Please build more of these TUBS for our Target practice....:p:

With all due respect sir, if this was the case, countries like US had not developed powerful navies but rather just invested more in anti-ship missiles and the same had been true for air-force, invest more in sams and less on air crafts but history has proven on the contrary. There is no counter to an effective conventional air force and the same stands true for navy.

Anti-ship missiles are effective, but that does not negate the effectiveness of a conventional navy. Not to forget that these billion dollar ships also have the means to neutralize the threats from anti-ship missiles.
 
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At a $1 billion each this 7000 tonne warship is the most advanced and most costly in South Asia.

The indians will have seven in total by 2020

Amazing vedio


I wany to ask how best do Pakistan answer this MASSIVE NEW THREAT

1ST+SEA+TRIALS+KOLKATA.jpg



The ship is designed to fight engage pn Land & Sea & Air .

It carrys up to 72 barak SURFACE TO AIR MISSLES. getting an air strike even close will be enormously hard

Brahmos cruise missles means it can not only sink ships but attack land targets

Very easy solution, a preemptive missile strike at the docks. Same solution to their much touted Flankers. They will not have an airbase to go back to if they ever attack Pakistan. India always had superior weapons but a we are still a pain in their a$$.
 
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With all due respect sir, if this was the case, countries like US had not developed powerful navies but rather just invested more in anti-ship missiles and the same had been true for air-force, invest more in sams and less on air crafts but history has proven on the contrary. There is no counter to an effective conventional air force and the same stands true for navy.

Anti-ship missiles are effective, but that does not negate the effectiveness of a conventional navy. Not to forget that these billion dollar ships also have the means to neutralize the threats from anti-ship missiles.

Effectively, shore based batteries/MPAs/ISAR assets can at best still some what sanitize a zone extending 100+ nautical miles from Pakistan's shores AAW abilities or no AAW abilities (no mean feat), so an Op Python cannot be attempted again, of course other equally devastating options remain on the table.

So the OHPs are more like you; neither has missiles to get the job done ! :(

@Oscar I love Buttsy like a brother, but his constant japing and fooling around when we get down to the technical stuff pissed me off, gag him!
 
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So the OHPs are more like you; neither has missiles to get the job done ! :(

Well played Bhatta. But I'll consider myself an early California DD. Medium range sams but capable of multiple target engagement.
Currently inducting a new Manzoor-e-Nazar for night while your distant relative acts as my concubine during the day.

Effectively, shore based batteries/MPAs/ISAR assets can at best still some what sanitize a zone extending 100+ nautical miles from Pakistan's shores AAW abilities or no AAW abilities (no mean feat), so an Op Python cannot be attempted again, of course other equally devastating options remain on the table.



@Oscar I love Buttsy like a brother, but his constant japing and fooling around when we get down to the technical stuff pissed me off, gag him!

Operation Python will no longer be needed. Longer range system ensure that the threshold to deploy strike systems is extended well outside a 100nm. The question remains however whether a 100nm temporary exclusion zone is enough to provide a supply like and protect certain installations at all?

Unless there is a ground offensive that has a naval component providing a flanking marine landing , there is no need to get that close to Pakistani shores at all. The threat of shore based AShMs remains and with not a single iota of respect to another member from across the border. Finding and destroying a silkworm like battery will not be as easy as 1,2,3
 
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