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We appreciate the cow too. We thank it for giving us beef that is used to make such lovely dishes like bihari kabab, nihari, steaks, haleem....lovely stuff
You are not doing any favour to yourself or your community with such thinking...the more you disrespect and make a mockery of hindus sentiments ,the more the bjp gets stronger...
Just 13 years back there was no bjp in any of the south indian states..now it is ruling karnataka...it has 4 MP seats in telangana...even in bengal where bjp got only 2 seats in the last elections,there are 18 MPs this time around....anti muslim sentiment is growing in TN and kerala too.
What has changed?your politicians make open threats of killing all hindus if police is removed for 15 minutes.

Youbomb mumbai,hyd,delhi,bangalore,chennai...youopenly support pakistan in india pak cricket matches...you indulge in violence supporting osama bin laden here in hyd(2002)..you burn trains carrying hindus(godhra)...you want pakistani muslims to be given indian citizenship.
You go on protests if indian govt gives citizenship to hindu refugees(NRC).
Above all you have broken this land into two..
Hindus are divided by castes...imagine how many things you have done that even those people who are divided by castes got united.
The only way muslims can win hindus' trust is through assimilation and being friendly...once that happens people dont go for parties like BJP...as long as you react with hate , hindus will keep on voting for BJP as they feel it is the only party that can keep muslims in their place.
Things have gone too far with recent NRC protests and the recent Tableegi incident...BJP is here to stay at least for another 2 terms even if it performs badly on economic front.
 
You should have tried that strategy when you outnumbered Muslims 1000000:1 not when you are 4:1
Hahaha, at that time fighting Hindus were only a fraction, e,g upper caste Kshatriyas.

Now its the 75 crore low caste Hindus who rule India. Modi is a low caste Hindu. And in front of combined strength of 100 crores Hindus, may God have mercy on you. :)
 
You are not doing any favour to yourself or your community with such thinking...the more you disrespect and make a mockery of hindus sentiments ,the more the bjp gets stronger...
Just 13 years back there was no bjp in any of the south indian states..now it is ruling karnataka...it has 4 MP seats in telangana...even in bengal where bjp got only 2 seats in the last elections,there are 18 MPs this time around....anti muslim sentiment is growing in TN and kerala too.
What has changed?your politicians make open threats of killing all hindus if police is removed for 15 minutes.

Youbomb mumbai,hyd,delhi,bangalore,chennai...youopenly support pakistan in india pak cricket matches...you indulge in violence supporting osama bin laden here in hyd(2002)..you burn trains carrying hindus(godhra)...you want pakistani muslims to be given indian citizenship.
You go on protests if indian govt gives citizenship to hindu refugees(NRC).
Above all you have broken this land into two..
Hindus are divided by castes...imagine how many things you have done that even those people who are divided by castes got united.
The only way muslims can win hindus' trust is through assimilation and being friendly...once that happens people dont go for parties like BJP...as long as you react with hate , hindus will keep on voting for BJP as they feel it is the only party that can keep muslims in their place.
Things have gone too far with recent NRC protests and the recent Tableegi incident...BJP is here to stay at least for another 2 terms even if it performs badly on economic front.

Dude...give it a rest. Stop justifying the hate in your society by using Muslims.

I'll listen to you when you say the same things to the wonderful Hindus on this forum that day in and day out abuse Muslims. I have never seen that happen from you. But you are the first one to jump when a Muslim says anything in response.
 
Hahahaha...what a retard. Wants me to create a Hindu state. Woh bhi khud nahin kar saktey

This same guy probably shits in his pants at the thought of going in a Muslim area in Meerut or Bombay.
So you admit muslim areas are hubs of rowdies and gundas...you accept that muslims are violent...then how can you expect us to treat you nicely...you hate us
.but you wantt us to love you
 
So you admit muslim areas are hubs of rowdies and gundas...you accept that muslims are violent...then how can you expect us to treat you nicely...you hate us
.but you wantt us to love you

No , I am just saying Suriya is scared like any other pajeet online.
 
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@Suriya @aryadravida @Gadkari Its Time to consider BUFFALO AS YOUR MATA

Cow Belt or Buffalo Nation?
HARISH DAMODARAN | Updated on March 09, 2018 Published on April 18, 2012
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Cows may be sacred, but are not the preferred choice of farmers today.
Indian farmers traditionally reared cattle for three main purposes.

The first was for draught – the cow here basically being the mother of bullocks that helped the farmer plough the field, draw water from wells for irrigation, thresh grain by trampling, and pull his cart. The second was for dung that was composted into manure for fertiliser application, or dried and caked for use as fuel.

The third, of course, was for milk. These three purposes – draught, fertiliser-cum-fuel, and milk – made the cow a much-venerated creature not just from a religious standpoint, but even for its practical indispensability to farm and off-farm operations.

The cow, as the renowned economist, Prof K.N. Raj put it, was uniquely endowed with a simultaneous capacity as producer of consumer good (milk), intermediate good (dung), capital good (oxen for traction) and ‘mother machine' (for reproducing other cattle).

Revolutionary redundancy
This exalted position , however, has been considerably undermined since the advent of the Green Revolution.

Between 1971-72 and 2009-10, the estimated share of draught animals in total power deployed in Indian farms has fallen from 53 per cent to below nine per cent. Just as bullocks have progressively given way to diesel engines, tractors and electric motors, the nutrient requirements of crops, too, are nowadays predominantly met by chemical fertilisers. The latest 2011 Census results also show only 10.9 per cent of rural households in India to be utilising dung cake as fuel for cooking.

All this has, therefore, reduced the utility of cattle to largely being milk-producing machines.

But cows account for less than 45 per cent of India's milk output today, and within that, well over half comes from exotic or cross-bred animals containing genetic material of ‘western' breeds like Holstein Friesian, Jersey and Brown Swiss. T
he native indigenous breeds – the true Holy Cows – still make up 45 per cent of India's milch animal population, yet produce just about a fifth of its milk (see Table).

More than 55 per cent of the milk that Indians consume now flows from the udders of buffaloes, which are neither born holy nor have holiness thrust upon them. The share of buffaloes in the overall bovine numbers has also steadily gone up since Independence, with the accompanying graph capturing this trend at an all-India level.

Buffaloisation
But more interesting is the data for States.

While buffaloes constituted 34.6 per cent of the country's total bovine animal population (male plus female) as per the latest 2007 Livestock Census, the corresponding percentages were higher for Haryana (79.3), Punjab (74), Uttar Pradesh (55.8), Andhra Pradesh (54.2), Gujarat (52.4), Rajasthan (47.8) and Bihar (34.8). Most of these states are in the Vaishnav-Jain-Arya Samaj heartland, where the cow is specially revered. On the other hand, the buffalo shares were the lowest in Kerala (3.2), West Bengal (3.8) and the North-East states (4.6) that have no blanket laws prohibiting cow slaughter or sale of beef!

The above numbers suggest a growing preference among farmers, particularly in the so-called Cow Belt states, to keep buffaloes.

The most obvious reason for that is milk. An average Murrah buffalo produces 2,000-odd litres over a 300-day lactation period, which is more or less what comparable elite indigenous cattle breeds such as Sahiwal yield. But buffalo milk also fetches higher price, as it contains 7-7.5 per cent fat – almost twice that from cows.

Besides, buffaloes are more efficient converters of low-quality feeds or coarse fodder. This is important in the Indian context, where livestock survive largely on crop residues – wheat and paddy straw, sugarcane tops, or the protein-rich cake remaining after extraction of oil from groundnut, copra and mustard-seed – and not many farmers can afford costly compound concentrate feeds or set aside land for intensive forage cultivation. Buffaloes are also not very finicky about quality and taste, unlike cows that require their straw to be finely bruised and laced with jaggery or flour.

Milk, however, has not been the decisive factor in ‘buffaloisation'.

The impetus for that has come really from farm mechanisation. Male cattle may be superior draught animals on farms than buffaloes, being lighter, nimbler and easier to train. Buffaloes, apart from being sloppy, cannot also work for long hours in the sun because of their black skin absorbing more heat.

But with the bulk of field preparation and tillage operations now performed by tractor-drawn implements, there is no special advantage to be derived from maintaining oxen. If at all, they are needed only for carrying load, where buffaloes actually score. A single male buffalo can comfortably lug 25 quintals over 10 to 15 km, whereas cattle bullocks cannot manage beyond 15 quintals.

No holiness intended
Better milk price realisations and farm mechanisation apart, the other reason for buffaloes becoming the preferred bovine choice of Indian farmers is that they do not – unlike cows or pigs – evoke extreme sentiments. There are, hence, no social taboos attached to their slaughter.

A buffalo delivers its first calf when around four years of age and can undergo another 7-8 calvings in its lifetime. But farmers typically don't wait that long and sell their buffaloes after about five calvings, when milk yields start tapering off.

These animals – and also most of the young male progeny – head to the slaughter house.

Although the farmer may not himself slaughter, there aren't any religious and legal hurdles stopping him from selling buffaloes for further processing into meat either for domestic consumption or even exports. In 2010-11, 7.1 lakh tonnes of buffalo meat, worth Rs 8,413 crore, was officially shipped out from India.

What does the future hold for the cow, then? Well, it is a function of farmers' willingness to rear them as milch animals, which is practically their sole utility today. That being the case, farmers would increasingly prefer exotic or cross-bred cows, which give more milk than the holy desi breeds.

A safer option is buffaloes. Legislations making cow slaughter a cognisable, non-bailable offence inviting seven-year jail terms and laying the burden of proving innocence on the accused – which is what some States have done – would only hasten the process of buffaloisation. How many farmers, after all, would risk keeping animals that cannot be easily disposed of once they stop giving milk or happen to be male?

For an indication of where farmers' rational choices are leading to, one needn't look beyond Gokul and Vrindavan – the holy sites of Lord Krishna's childhood life centred around cows, milk, butter and gopis. According to the 2007 Livestock Census, Mathura district, of which they are part, had a total cattle population of 141,326, whereas its buffalo numbers were five times higher, at 722,854.

So much for the Cow Belt!


 
We revere the Cow that give us milk to drink as its own son and daughter. We appreciate its urine which is rich in anti oxidants and used in some rituals.

We are not ashamed of it. We take pride in our culture and heritage which is why we did not convert out of fear or greed.

But we also readily recognize Bigots who expose their narrow minds by thinking Hindu culture and rituals can be mocked in a pakistani forum while forgetting their own prophet who advocated drinking camel urine as claimed in Hadiths.

I am clearly a Non Believer in Allah so call me Kafir as ordered by your allah. Why do you feel the need to "JUSTIFY' it ? are you ashamed ?

By this logic a goat should be your aunt and a bull your papa ? Your anti oxidant bullshit will not fly here. Try in a shakha.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...scheme-study-benefits-cow-dung-urine-and-milk

https://www.mensxp.com/special-feat...hat-sounds-like-bad-news-for-indian-govt.html

I know you will not be ashamed of anything. Thats what Chaddi gangs do to you in shakha. They make you zombies who are unable to show any sympathies to fellow human beings, teach you pseudo science like the above and you lose your reasoning power in the process.

I never resorted to religion based accusation but it was you who brought it in when you could nt have a debate based on facts. Now you are playing the victim card. Go cry a river.

i was not justifying, but just stating the facts. Why should I justify to a internet nobody on a public forum ?
 

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