Indian Minister to Talk Russia out of Pakistan Su-35 etc. Deals

[wiseone2]

France was coerced by India and not by the US. And since when do the French listen to US?

For French radars, electronic warfare suites and missiles, probably 1-2 Billion. For French Engines, perhaps even more. Could have been 10-15% what India pledged through Rafael acquisition.

India does not have the influence to prevent French weapon sales to Pakistan. The Mirage-2000 upgrade deal was $1 billion. French are not supplying engines for the JF-17. State of the art missiles are tricky to obtain.

France and US are allies at a certain level. they are also competitors and friendly rivals.

And you think Pakistanis can not integrate guided munitions in MI-35 if required?

what will guide the munitions ?? With 4 Mi-35s you are not scaring anyone

 

[war&peace]

This is international relationing. If you see their strategy they have effectively tightenerd the noose around your neck and deprived you of your two big suppliers. Any effort they make to deprive you of a provider means they dont have to buy any arms to counter you. This is the strategy and rathewr than saying crying Bhartis, you should be saying Clever bhartis.
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India is playing an ugly role but that's it..it is an enemy state and there should be no surprise for Pakistan. However pakistan needs to mount a diplomatic effort wherever possible and especially in this case, Pakistan should immediately send a high level delegation to Russia and keep China in the loop.

 

[wiseone2]

Your information is not correct.

https://sputniknews.com/business/20150825/1026161580.html

the link says the quantity can be increased from 4 to 10-12
Russia does not mind selling 100 choppers to pakistan

Source please.

I like to see the link
I won't be surprised because India is big customer of Russian anti-tank missiles

 

[Basel]

India does not have the influence to prevent French weapon sales to Pakistan. The Mirage-2000 upgrade deal was $1 billion. French are not supplying engines for the JF-17. State of the art missiles are tricky to obtain.

France and US are allies at a certain level. they are also competitors and friendly rivals.



what will guide the munitions ?? With 4 Mi-35s you are not scaring anyone

They are not frontline attack helicopters of PAA, the frontline ones will have all goodies to take care of enemy.

 

[wiseone2]

They are not frontline attack helicopters of PAA, the frontline ones will have all goodies to take care of enemy.

frontline or not frontline four choppers does not scare anyone

 

[ZainIndia]

This maybe good news for PAK as every time indian ministers try something stupid they fall flat on their face.
Like in case of Balochistan they successfully isolated themselves as no country in the world supports such stupid arguments.Also I simply dont understand the reason for preventing another sovereign country for acquiring whatever it wants.It just reflects their silly and childish attitude of indian politicians .Going and crying in front of uncle sam and russia like a baby.Why dont they understand that if they cant get it from russia and US they will iventually get a platform of similar or better capability from China.What will they do then??

 

[Basel]

frontline or not frontline four choppers does not scare anyone

Are you a fool? since long it is said here on PDF that Mi-35 are required for COIN, MEDEVAC in western part of Pakistan, for eastern front PAA is testing & evaluating various platforms which are deeply discussed here on PDF.

 

[Mav3rick]

India does not have the influence to prevent French weapon sales to Pakistan. The Mirage-2000 upgrade deal was $1 billion. French are not supplying engines for the JF-17. State of the art missiles are tricky to obtain.

France and US are allies at a certain level. they are also competitors and friendly rivals.

India holds considerable advantage over countries which depend on weapons sales to boost their budgets and quell inflation. India check mated Pakistan's intention of loading thunders with French avionics and weapons package with MMRCA. Too bad the French got duped and in greed decided not to sell to PAF and in the process pleased India, however the pain they must be feeling upon losing the 2-3 Billion $ deal back in 2010 to a deal that is still nowhere in 2016!

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

“My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent. I shall attack.” - Marshal Foch, Supreme Allied Commander in WW1

Russia appears to be in an offensive mood. She is materializing her wishes one by one – annexing Crimea, getting into the ME, challenging the West etc. Since time immemorial it has always been a Russian dream to get into the warm waters. Turkey hasn’t paid a small price to squander that dream. Now that another opportunity has shown up with CPEC having China as the master builder (hint: Great Wall of China), will Russia wake up in yet another morning empty handed – that too on behalf of India? Let’s see how it unfolds….

 

[wiseone2]

India holds considerable advantage over countries which depend on weapons sales to boost their budgets and quell inflation. India check mated Pakistan's intention of loading thunders with French avionics and weapons package with MMRCA. Too bad the French got duped and in greed decided not to sell to PAF and in the process pleased India, however the pain they must be feeling upon losing the 2-3 Billion $ deal back in 2010 to a deal that is still nowhere in 2016!

How did France lose 2-3 billion dollars ?? They won't supply engines or missiles for your JF-17

 

[illusion8]

Now that another opportunity has shown up with CPEC having China as the master builder (hint: Great Wall of China),.

It's just some big ticket deals that's being negotiated with Russia (our trusted supplier from decades) from a long time..delusions galore...It has nothing to do with cpec or whatever. It has to do with Putin's visit to India.

 

[wiseone2]

I thought in PA all decision are made in recommendation by core commanders. but my question is why NS govt didnt not give extension to Kayani since he would have suited their agenda of corruption.

it is not in the interest of the pakistan army to take power. if they take over they are responsible for everything from broken roads, power generation, water supply to the more important things

 

[somebozo]

 

[jupiter2007]

India is playing an ugly role but that's it..it is an enemy state and there should be no surprise for Pakistan. However pakistan needs to mount a diplomatic effort wherever possible and especially in this case, Pakistan should immediately send a high level delegation to Russia and keep China in the loop.

Nawaz Sharif is bigger threat to Pakistan's safety and Security then Eindia. Whatever little he is doing, he is doing to protect his neck.

 

[airmarshal]

I dont know why is Pakistan even considering Russian jets. Their reliability record isnt that good.