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Indian Media: The great game in the Middle East: Why the Pakistan-Saudi relationship is going off the rails

Unfortunately our own Govt is source of much happiness for you when it comes to KSA and Pak relations,otherwise Pak-KSA relations are not as bad as your media has told you.We still have got around 4 millions expats in KSA and thousands of mil advisors on ground.
Pak-KSA ties are deeper than a Bharti can think off.
people to beople ties and cultural ties maybe, but MBS is boss and friends with Modi.


Lo ji, new bhakt.
Now keeping the words away, lets come to the realties.

4 million Pakistanis in Saudi Arabia
Thousands of military personnel, advisors and trainers on ground
Saudi need for Pakistan to deploy nukes in Saudi Arabia in case Iran comes up with a nuclear weapon.

Indians should honestly shut up, they get their news from low end junkie wion aunties.
but I'm an old bhakt

so ? 1.5 million Indians too

labourers mostly, from both countries, and who get treated like utter s#ite lol (as do pinoys, lankans and others tbf)

No, Palki good.. love to have a coffee (or a drink) with her sometime.

No Indian will die for the land Hijaz and Harem. Only Pakistani soldiers and public will give their lives happily.
Plenty of Indian muslims will, gladly.

The deen of the Indian muslims is also strong !


Wet dreams and mind farts of a has been ;)

Who, ambassador Gupta Ji ?

No, these former diplomats know the score. Why so much love for the M.K.Bhadrakumar types then ? :D

Post every whatsapp piece you find

stay tuned !
 
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people to beople ties and cultural ties maybe, but MBS is boss and friends with Modi.

MBS is just a single guy... with yet undetermined future. Saudi Arabia is the both hub and incubator of the Wahabbi sect and birthplace of Al Qaeeda. The people of Saudis will happily 'Hindu-Kush' .... If you catch my drift.

However India is an established Hindutva disinfo-terror state as this article points out in full detail... Did you read it all?

 
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MBS is just a single guy... with yet undetermined future. Saudi Arabia is the both hub and incubator of the Wahabbi sect and birthplace of Al Qaeeda. The people of Saudis will happily 'Hindu-Kush' .... If you catch my drift.

However India is an established Hindutva disinfo-terror state as this article points out in full detail... Did you read it all?

MBS has assumed total control, he's not going anywhere soon.. doesn't seem to have those wahhabist horse blinders on either, he's a brutal reformist/pragmatist doing what's best for his country. I like the guy.

you've drifted too far away from reality for anyone to catch your drift
 
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MBS has assumed total control, he's not going anywhere soon.. doesn't seem to have those wahhabist horse blinders on either, he's a brutal reformist/pragmatist doing what's best for his country. I like the guy.

you've drifted too far away from reality for anyone to catch your drift

So you say... But you haven't been to Saudi. I've lived there for 6 years... This thread isn't about MBS.

Did you even read this groundbreaking article??... Or are you ignoring to practice Hindutva misinformation??

 
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So you say... But you haven't been to Saudi. I've lived there for 6 years... This thread isn't about MBS.

Did you even read this groundbreaking article??... Or are you ignoring to practice Hindutva misinformation??

read the actual whole report, not just articles on it.

nothingburger
 
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read the actual whole report, not just articles on it.

nothingburger


FM Qureshi urges UN, EU to investigate report on Indian propaganda network
Dawn.com 11 Dec 2020
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Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Friday called upon the United Nations and the European Union to take notice of and initiate a probe into a massive disinformation and propaganda campaign being "run by India" to promote anti-Pakistan sentiment on an international level.

He was addressing a press conference alongside Special Assistant to the Prime Minister (SAPM) on National Security Moeed Yusuf, regarding a report released earlier this week by the Brussels-based EU DisinfoLab.

In a new investigation, titled Indian Chronicles, the group exposed another Indian network that aims to reinforce pro-Indian and anti-Pakistan (and anti-Chinese) feelings in India.

Editorial: Indian disinformation network's propaganda against Pakistan betrays a sinister campaign

Addressing today's press conference, Qureshi said that Pakistan has been consistently alerting the international community to India's designs and intentions and that the findings of the report "corroborated our stance and stamped our claims".

After discussing the results of the report and its implications, the foreign minister called upon the international community and international institutions to take action on its findings.

"We urge the UN human rights machinery [...], the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights [...] as well as human rights experts to take a serious look as to how a prestigious platform such as the human rights council was thus misused," said Qureshi.

The foreign minister said that it is necessary that government-owned and sponsored organisations are scrutinised and denied UN platforms if they are found "spreading fake news and hate".

Qureshi mentioned that this disinformation network had manipulated EU parliamentarians and abused the legal institution by using the EU letterhead.

"We also urge EU authorities to take notice of this massive campaign against Pakistan and not let their legal institutions and frameworks be abused in such a blatant manner," the foreign minister said.

"Additionally, we call on the EU parliament to begin a credible investigation into the manipulation of the EU parliament and its legislative process by these fake organisations involved in anti-Pakistan propaganda."

Qureshi also called upon the Reuters news agency to disassociate itself from India's ANI and "reconsider their existing partnership" since the latter was identified in the report as being complicit in the mass propaganda network and dissemination of fake news.

SAPM Yusuf elaborated on the details uncovered in the report and likened the actions of the Indian government akin to a "mafia" instead of a state.

He also read out several revelations in the report and remarked: "International laws were broken with the use of UN and EU letterheads and identity theft is punishable by 20 years."

He did not clarify which law pertaining to identity theft he was referring to.

Both Qureshi and Yusuf insisted that the report was vindicated Pakistan's consistent stance on Indian sponsored terrorism and it will be portrayed with renewed vigour on international forums.
'Revelations by EU watchdog vindicate Pakistan’s stance'

A day earlier, Prime Minister Imran Khan had said that the recent revelations regarding an Indian disinformation network had "vindicated Pakistan's position and exposed its detractors".

"Pakistan has consistently drawn the attention of the international community towards India's subversive activities to undermine democracies in the region and export/ fund extremism through structures of fake news organisations and 'think tanks'," the premier said.

"Recently, the government of Pakistan provided a dossier to the United Nations of India's state terrorism in Pakistan," he said.

Read: Specific proof of Indian terrorism in Pakistan unveiled

"The international community needs to take notice of a rogue Indian regime that now threatens the stability of the global system," he said.
Indian lobbying network exposed

Last year, the Brussels-based EU DisinfoLab had uncovered a vast network of 265 coordinated fake local media outlets in 65 countries serving Indian interests, as well as multiple dubious think tanks and NGOs. This network was active in Brussels and Geneva in producing and amplifying content designed to, primarily, undermine Pakistan.

In a new investigation, the group has exposed another Indian network.

Internationally, the network is working to consolidate the power and improve the image of India and damage reputation of rival countries so that ultimately India may benefit from more support from international institutions such as the European Union and the United Nations.

To do so, the network used fake personas of a dead human rights activist and journalists, and also tried to impersonate regular media and press agencies such as the EU Observer, the Economist and Voice of America.

The network also used letterhead of the European Parliament, registered websites under avatars with fake phone numbers, provided fake addresses to the United Nations and created publishing companies to print books of the think tanks they owned.

Overall, an entire network of over 500 fake local media outlets in 95 countries helped reproduce negative iterations about Pakistan (or China). In total, the operation has covered 116 countries and nine regions.

Here are the consequences of the report:

Hindutva Media-Terrorism

FM Qureshi urges UN, EU to investigate report on Indian propaganda network
Dawn.com 11 Dec 2020
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61
Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Friday called upon the United Nations and the European Union to take notice of and initiate a probe into a massive disinformation and propaganda campaign being "run by India" to promote anti-Pakistan sentiment on an international level.

He was addressing a press conference alongside Special Assistant to the Prime Minister (SAPM) on National Security Moeed Yusuf, regarding a report released earlier this week by the Brussels-based EU DisinfoLab.

In a new investigation, titled Indian Chronicles, the group exposed another Indian network that aims to reinforce pro-Indian and anti-Pakistan (and anti-Chinese) feelings in India.

Editorial: Indian disinformation network's propaganda against Pakistan betrays a sinister campaign

ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD

Addressing today's press conference, Qureshi said that Pakistan has been consistently alerting the international community to India's designs and intentions and that the findings of the report "corroborated our stance and stamped our claims".

After discussing the results of the report and its implications, the foreign minister called upon the international community and international institutions to take action on its findings.

"We urge the UN human rights machinery [...], the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights [...] as well as human rights experts to take a serious look as to how a prestigious platform such as the human rights council was thus misused," said Qureshi.

The foreign minister said that it is necessary that government-owned and sponsored organisations are scrutinised and denied UN platforms if they are found "spreading fake news and hate".

ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD

Qureshi mentioned that this disinformation network had manipulated EU parliamentarians and abused the legal institution by using the EU letterhead.

"We also urge EU authorities to take notice of this massive campaign against Pakistan and not let their legal institutions and frameworks be abused in such a blatant manner," the foreign minister said.

"Additionally, we call on the EU parliament to begin a credible investigation into the manipulation of the EU parliament and its legislative process by these fake organisations involved in anti-Pakistan propaganda."

Qureshi also called upon the Reuters news agency to disassociate itself from India's ANI and "reconsider their existing partnership" since the latter was identified in the report as being complicit in the mass propaganda network and dissemination of fake news.

ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD

SAPM Yusuf elaborated on the details uncovered in the report and likened the actions of the Indian government akin to a "mafia" instead of a state.

He also read out several revelations in the report and remarked: "International laws were broken with the use of UN and EU letterheads and identity theft is punishable by 20 years."

He did not clarify which law pertaining to identity theft he was referring to.

Both Qureshi and Yusuf insisted that the report was vindicated Pakistan's consistent stance on Indian sponsored terrorism and it will be portrayed with renewed vigour on international forums.

'Revelations by EU watchdog vindicate Pakistan’s stance'
A day earlier, Prime Minister Imran Khan had said that the recent revelations regarding an Indian disinformation network had "vindicated Pakistan's position and exposed its detractors".

"Pakistan has consistently drawn the attention of the international community towards India's subversive activities to undermine democracies in the region and export/ fund extremism through structures of fake news organisations and 'think tanks'," the premier said.

"Recently, the government of Pakistan provided a dossier to the United Nations of India's state terrorism in Pakistan," he said.

Read: Specific proof of Indian terrorism in Pakistan unveiled

"The international community needs to take notice of a rogue Indian regime that now threatens the stability of the global system," he said.

Indian lobbying network exposed
Last year, the Brussels-based EU DisinfoLab had uncovered a vast network of 265 coordinated fake local media outlets in 65 countries serving Indian interests, as well as multiple dubious think tanks and NGOs. This network was active in Brussels and Geneva in producing and amplifying content designed to, primarily, undermine Pakistan.

In a new investigation, the group has exposed another Indian network.

Internationally, the network is working to consolidate the power and improve the image of India and damage reputation of rival countries so that ultimately India may benefit from more support from international institutions such as the European Union and the United Nations.

To do so, the network used fake personas of a dead human rights activist and journalists, and also tried to impersonate regular media and press agencies such as the EU Observer, the Economist and Voice of America.

The network also used letterhead of the European Parliament, registered websites under avatars with fake phone numbers, provided fake addresses to the United Nations and created publishing companies to print books of the think tanks they owned.

Overall, an entire network of over 500 fake local media outlets in 95 countries helped reproduce negative iterations about Pakistan (or China). In total, the operation has covered 116 countries and nine regions.
 
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last time Saudis needed help. It was in 1990. we know who did the fighting ?
It was you, I am talking about deploying nukes, don't take things out of context.
Secondly, Pakistan has always remain deployed and will remain deployed in Saudi Arabia to defend the country and its holy sites.
 
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after reading the first line "Pakistan getting snubbed by Saudia" I knew it...this is Hindu writer.
It is the other way around you idiot of a laying nation. Pakistan spitted Saudia so India can lick it
 
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sure, relations between Pakistan and Saudia have never been stronger. :rolleyes:

keep on taking that indian media's go-mutra. Our relations with Saudi's is our business, you lot should worry about yourself. Do tell how many programs have been done on farmers protest by these go-mutra channels? So again worry about yourself, we don't need a pajeet reminding us what to do about our situation. We have had worse situations and we have always managed to overcome them. So whether it is Saudi or whether it is Irani's we know how to handle the situation and we have been handling that for last 70+ years.
 
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Plenty of Indian muslims will, gladly.

The deen of the Indian muslims is also strong !


Nopes, wrong again. Strong hota, tou hindu k samne kharay hotay. When they downed Babri Masjid, when they did Gujarat massacre. 1 k badlay 100 hindu, that should have been the count .Muslims of India are nothing but converted Shudrs and Dalits. Their religion is changed but their mentality, self confidence, unity, brotherhood isn't changed its same and as before. They will keep on sucking and licking Brahmans feet. Do tell how many muslims join Indian Army, do tell how many of them want to sacrifice their life for their country?

Apnay country k liye nahi dein gay tou wou Makkah, Madina k liye dien gay. LoL.
 
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Saudi Arabia should threaten India’s oil supply unless Kashmir is made independent and all Hindus be made slaves to Indian Muslims
 
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Lo ji, new bhakt.
Now keeping the words away, lets come to the realties.

4 million Pakistanis in Saudi Arabia
Thousands of military personnel, advisors and trainers on ground
Saudi need for Pakistan to deploy nukes in Saudi Arabia in case Iran comes up with a nuclear weapon.

Indians should honestly shut up, they get their news from low end junkie wion aunties.
good that everything is alright between pak and saudi arabia .
but shah Mahmood is not alright with what you consider is alright . saudis asked you to return the 3 bn dollars immediately , they stopped oil supply on deferred payments, they did not like imran forming another islamic front with turkey and Malaysia .
No Indian will die for the land Hijaz and Harem. Only Pakistani soldiers and public will give their lives happily.
hindu raj will consider sending its muslims to save friends like saudi arabia .
Saudi Arabia should threaten India’s oil supply unless Kashmir is made independent and all Hindus be made slaves to Indian Muslims

they will throw your advice in dustbin .
 
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Just because you want something to happen very badly doesn’t mean it will. If all my dumbass wishes came true I’d be running a trillion dollar company from my office on Mars.
 
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It was you, I am talking about deploying nukes, don't take things out of context.
Secondly, Pakistan has always remain deployed and will remain deployed in Saudi Arabia to defend the country and its holy sites.

If you want a nuclear umbrella there are lots of choices
 
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